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The screams that rang throughout the darkened cattle car crammed with deportees, as it jolted across the icy Polish countryside five nights before Christmas, were Dr. Loch's only means of locating his patient. The doctor, formerly chief medical officer of a large urban hospital, now found himself clambering over piles of baggage, fellow passengers, and buckets used as toilets, only to find his path blocked by an old woman who ignored his request to move aside. On closer examination, he discovered that she had frozen to death.
Finally he located the source of the screams, a pregnant woman who had gone into premature labor and was hemorrhaging profusely. When he attempted to move her from where she lay into a more comfortable position, he found that "she was frozen to the floor with her own blood." Other than temporarily stanching the bleeding, Loch was unable to do anything to help her, and he never learned whether she had lived or died. When the train made its first stop, after more than four days in transit, 16 frost-covered corpses were pulled from the wagons before the remaining deportees were put back on board to continue their journey. A further 42 passengers would later succumb to the effects of their ordeal, among them Loch's wife.
Even at the time, not everyone agreed. George Orwell, an outspoken opponent of the expulsions, pointed out in his essay "Politics and the English Language" that the expression "transfer of population" was one of a number of euphemisms whose purpose was "largely the defense of the indefensible." The philosopher Bertrand Russell acidly inquired: "Are mass deportations crimes when committed by our enemies during war and justifiable measures of social adjustment when carried out by our allies in time of peace?" A still more uncomfortable observation was made by the left-wing publisher Victor Gollancz, who reasoned that "if every German was indeed responsible for what happened at Belsen, then we, as members of a democratic country and not a fascist one with no free press or parliament, were responsible individually as well as collectively" for what was being done to noncombatants in the Allies' name.
What's the point? To blame the Allies for the suffering of European refugees after the Nazi regime was defeated? It's an insane argument.
The Nazi regime systematically attempted to eradicate Jews and Gypsies and homosexuals and people who did not live up to the eugenic standards that Hitler and his maniacs set and you think the Allies should show "remorse" for the outcome of the conflagration of WW2?
America treated the German civilians with the utmost care and comfort they could during the horrible aftermath of the liberation of Germany and France. You could include Stalinist Russia in the the list of Allies during the War. President Truman underestimated the the agenda of Russia after the War and it was a mistake in US foreign policy.
Where is the evidence supporting "R.M. Douglas's" claim that the Allies forced Czechlovakians to return to Germany in cattle cars? It makes no sense unless you consider that the Soviets claimed the Czech republic and and in that case a return to Germany was better than a Soviet gulag. Pretending that the USSR continued to be an ally of the US iafter WW2 s a deliberate dishonest misinterpretation of the Allied victory in Europe.
Where is the evidence supporting "R.M. Douglas's" claim that the Allies forced Czechlovakians to return to Germany in cattle cars? It makes no sense unless you consider that the Soviets claimed the Czech republic and and in that case a return to Germany was better than a Soviet gulag. Pretending that the USSR continued to be an ally of the US iafter WW2 s a deliberate dishonest misinterpretation of the Allied victory in Europe.
You are arguing with a guy that claims the Confederate States of America was not a Slave Nation and did not support slavery and use it as justification to leave the Union.
Where is the evidence supporting "R.M. Douglas's" claim that the Allies forced Czechlovakians to return to Germany in cattle cars? It makes no sense unless you consider that the Soviets claimed the Czech republic and and in that case a return to Germany was better than a Soviet gulag. Pretending that the USSR continued to be an ally of the US iafter WW2 s a deliberate dishonest misinterpretation of the Allied victory in Europe.
Where is the evidence supporting "R.M. Douglas's" claim that the Allies forced Czechlovakians to return to Germany in cattle cars? It makes no sense unless you consider that the Soviets claimed the Czech republic and and in that case a return to Germany was better than a Soviet gulag. Pretending that the USSR continued to be an ally of the US iafter WW2 s a deliberate dishonest misinterpretation of the Allied victory in Europe.
You are arguing with a guy that claims the Confederate States of America was not a Slave Nation and did not support slavery and use it as justification to leave the Union.
Where is the evidence supporting "R.M. Douglas's" claim that the Allies forced Czechlovakians to return to Germany in cattle cars? It makes no sense unless you consider that the Soviets claimed the Czech republic and and in that case a return to Germany was better than a Soviet gulag. Pretending that the USSR continued to be an ally of the US iafter WW2 s a deliberate dishonest misinterpretation of the Allied victory in Europe.
You are arguing with a guy that claims the Confederate States of America was not a Slave Nation and did not support slavery and use it as justification to leave the Union.
I can handle it Gunny. I like arguing WW2 history and the more this guy promotes his wacky theories the better I like playing his game.
I hate articles that assume I'm stupid. Who says this is something I haven't heard of? The problem of displaced persons was a big issue after the war. The article also ignores that many were DPs by choice, preferring not to live under Soviet rule.
The Nazi regime systematically attempted to eradicate Jews and Gypsies and homosexuals and people who did not live up to the eugenic standards that Hitler and his maniacs set and you think the Allies should show "remorse" for the outcome of the conflagration of WW2?
You are arguing with a guy that claims the Confederate States of America was not a Slave Nation and did not support slavery and use it as justification to leave the Union.
I can handle it Gunny. I like arguing WW2 history and the more this guy promotes his wacky theories the better I like playing his game.
I'm not playing a game. I'm simply not an apologist for government programs that lead to the deaths of around 500,000 people.
I hate articles that assume I'm stupid. Who says this is something I haven't heard of? The problem of displaced persons was a big issue after the war. The article also ignores that many were DPs by choice, preferring not to live under Soviet rule.
These both strike me as shallow critiques. Who cares what he titled his article? And the article wasn't about the people who left by choice, but those who were forced out against their will. Could he have mentioned it? Sure, but it wasn't the focus of the article so the omission isn't all that serious.
What's the point? To blame the Allies for the suffering of European refugees after the Nazi regime was defeated? It's an insane argument.
There's nothing insane about it. The Allies came up with these policies and implemented them, and are therefore responsible for the consequences of those policies. That they showed absolutely no remorse and that some even had the nerve to suggest that the Germans might deserve the hardship they went through is appalling.
I can handle it Gunny. I like arguing WW2 history and the more this guy promotes his wacky theories the better I like playing his game.
I'm not playing a game. I'm simply not an apologist for government programs that lead to the deaths of around 500,000 people.
Link to proof of that number?
