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I have always restricted the freedom of animals and children to enter legal contracts.There are other contractual arraignments that can be made. But the convenience of the marriage contract has been established. Two consenting adults if only to keep the loonies from baying about marrying German Shepards or four year olds.
So you're restricting freedom for them then? Why do you draw a line? Does what you see as 'moral' compell you to make that line? So, you see those people as loonies, where as other people see gays as 'loonies'. What makes you right as opposed to them? Because you're promoting freedom and they're not? Yet you still have your own line?
So, it's lack of tolerance, a stubborn need to oppress and a willingness to divide rather than accomodate.I don't see gays as loonies. I see the lunacy in accepting same sex relationships as normal and rejecting their aberration. In THIS context. For purposes of THIS discussion. It is a distraction. There are too many fault lines for the nation to survive. It will crack along these lines and collapse whether or not any individual accepts or rejects the concept of homosexual relationships.
If someone looks at it realistically instead of wanting to impose their morality on others, it's obvious that the divisions have reached a point where compromise is impossible. If you want specifics and use same sex marriage, do it. There is no point on which there can be compromise on the issue of same sex marriage. It is a fracture that cannot be overcome.
That's the issue.
Give it another 20 years, and they'll be as ineffectual in American politics as they are at controlling morality in the U.S.
Michael Kazin: The End Of The Christian Right | The New Republic
Key points...
the Christian Right is fighting a losing battle with the rest of the countryabove all, when it comes to abortion and same-sex marriage, the issues they care most about. A strong majority of Americans backs abortion in the early months of a pregnancy.
Meanwhile, support for gay rights is rising, quite swiftly. Same-sex marriage tops fifty percent in some recent polls, and the remarkably placid response to New Yorks recent legalization of the practice will make it easier for other states to follow suit. With over two-thirds of Americans now endorsing the end of Dont Ask, Dont Tell, the debate on that once controversial issue is now a matter for historians to analyze.
Put simply, the Christian Right is getting old. According to the largest and most recent study we have of American religion and politics, by Robert D. Putnam and David E. Campbell, almost twice as many people 18 to 29 confess to no faith at all as adhere to evangelical Protestantism. Young people who have attended college, a growing percentage of the population, are more secular still.
Last gasps of a dying subculture...
So, it's lack of tolerance, a stubborn need to oppress and a willingness to divide rather than accomodate.I don't see gays as loonies. I see the lunacy in accepting same sex relationships as normal and rejecting their aberration. In THIS context. For purposes of THIS discussion. It is a distraction. There are too many fault lines for the nation to survive. It will crack along these lines and collapse whether or not any individual accepts or rejects the concept of homosexual relationships.
If someone looks at it realistically instead of wanting to impose their morality on others, it's obvious that the divisions have reached a point where compromise is impossible. If you want specifics and use same sex marriage, do it. There is no point on which there can be compromise on the issue of same sex marriage. It is a fracture that cannot be overcome.
That's the issue.
Where do I sign up? Sounds like a great way to conduct a society (for some)!
Time for the far right Christians here to realize what Ezekiel and Jeremiah realized: individuals' relationships with God not the deification of religious politics is what is required. Newt or Mitt or Barak are not going to fulfill you in your personal lives. Does not work that way religiously.
So, it's lack of tolerance, a stubborn need to oppress and a willingness to divide rather than accomodate.I don't see gays as loonies. I see the lunacy in accepting same sex relationships as normal and rejecting their aberration. In THIS context. For purposes of THIS discussion. It is a distraction. There are too many fault lines for the nation to survive. It will crack along these lines and collapse whether or not any individual accepts or rejects the concept of homosexual relationships.
If someone looks at it realistically instead of wanting to impose their morality on others, it's obvious that the divisions have reached a point where compromise is impossible. If you want specifics and use same sex marriage, do it. There is no point on which there can be compromise on the issue of same sex marriage. It is a fracture that cannot be overcome.
That's the issue.
Where do I sign up? Sounds like a great way to conduct a society (for some)!
Sorry. Homosexuals do not have the same rights as anyone else. They are excluded from accessing contract law.So, it's lack of tolerance, a stubborn need to oppress and a willingness to divide rather than accomodate.I don't see gays as loonies. I see the lunacy in accepting same sex relationships as normal and rejecting their aberration. In THIS context. For purposes of THIS discussion. It is a distraction. There are too many fault lines for the nation to survive. It will crack along these lines and collapse whether or not any individual accepts or rejects the concept of homosexual relationships.
If someone looks at it realistically instead of wanting to impose their morality on others, it's obvious that the divisions have reached a point where compromise is impossible. If you want specifics and use same sex marriage, do it. There is no point on which there can be compromise on the issue of same sex marriage. It is a fracture that cannot be overcome.
That's the issue.
Where do I sign up? Sounds like a great way to conduct a society (for some)!
The whole business of forcing illegal marriages down our throats isn't about providing "rights" to gays...they already have the same rights as everybody else.
It's about controlling the clergy. That's what it always comes down to with progressives. Control of the majority by an extremist minority.
As opposed to the modesty and discretion of American heterosexuals? Maybe your subscription to Penthouse has expired, but there's plenty of imposition of morality going on in the Heterosexual community.You notice gays have NO problem whatsoever in imposing their views of morality on everyone else. We can't mention that.
Insurance company regulations are NOT state law, are they?As a matter of fact, they currently have MORE rights in my state.
I cannot add my stepson to my insurance without legal documentation that he is under my care and protection. That means his mother has to sign guardianship papers, or allow me to adopt him.
But if he were my same-sex (or opposite sex) "partner" no such documentation is needed.
Who has more rights here? Children or gays?
Nonsense.
The Nation is becoming stronger accordingly.
Here is where Nosmoking goes off the road. Even if same sex marriage were legal today in all 50 states, the rift would still be there, and the nation would be driven further apart than ever. Same sex couples wouldn't get what they really want which is acceptance of normal behaviorl The fracture would remain, and the nation would be more unstable than ever. It certainly wouldn't mean that we aren't disintegrating, just more evidence that we are and it can't be stopped.
Same sex marriage would become like abortion. We've had abortion for more than 40 years, two generations. There's no indication that we are finding points of compromise and growing closer and stronger as a country.
