The dude Lia Thomas wins women's NCAA swimming title

[JoeB131]

It is. The fact that you think it's just a form of contraception tells me again that you don't like women very much and have no clue what they go through when someone takes a baby out of them and kills him/her.

Actually, I'm not the one who thinks of it as contraception. That would be the women getting the abortions. Sadly, as a man, my options for contraception are limited to just rubbers. I'm sure your greatest form of contraception is your personality.

Irrelevant. Do you not think there are teens murdering people? Both are against the law, both are done. Again, irrelevant.

Um, I think you are losing the plot. Teens do all sorts of things behind their parents backs. That's kind of the fun of being a teenager. It amazes me how many wingnuts forget what they were like as teens.

I wonder if the unborn child would agree with you if it could?

That's the point, it can't agree or disagree, because it's not a person.

They seem to operate under "out of sight, out of mind". No wonder they don't want mothers to see ultrasounds of their baby before he/she is killed.

more like, you really can't see anything on an ultrasound at 8 weeks, and the "Wand of Shame" is kind of intrusive.

 

[hadit]

Actually, I'm not the one who thinks of it as contraception. That would be the women getting the abortions. Sadly, as a man, my options for contraception are limited to just rubbers. I'm sure your greatest form of contraception is your personality.

Awww, you're so precious, trying to insult me. I guess you forget who you're dealing with. How lame. Actually, my greatest form of contraception was the vasectomy I got when my wife and I decided we didn't want any more children. One of the best things I did for my sex life.

Um, I think you are losing the plot. Teens do all sorts of things behind their parents backs. That's kind of the fun of being a teenager. It amazes me how many wingnuts forget what they were like as teens.

Which is why we don't want society helping teens do stupid stuff without their parents' knowledge.

That's the point, it can't agree or disagree, because it's not a person.

Out of sight, out of mind. No one gets hurt if you can't hear them scream, right?

more like, you really can't see anything on an ultrasound at 8 weeks, and the "Wand of Shame" is kind of intrusive.

Have you ever seen an ultrasound in real life? My money is on "emphatically no".

 

[JoeB131]

Which is why we don't want society helping teens do stupid stuff without their parents' knowledge.

We also don't want parents abusing their teens for making mistakes. I trust the girl to work it out with their parents, not the state.

Out of sight, out of mind. No one gets hurt if you can't hear them scream, right?

Again, I got the full fetus porn in 12 years of Catholic School, thanks. Where they dug into medical waste containers and tried to claim third trimester miscarriages and claim they were first trimester abortions.

Have you ever seen an ultrasound in real life? My money is on "emphatically no".

Sure I have. They don't do them at 8 weeks when most women have abortions. Because at 8 weeks, they don't look like anything.

 

[hadit]

We also don't want parents abusing their teens for making mistakes. I trust the girl to work it out with their parents, not the state.

No, you do not, or you would not support strangers taking a minor child for a surgical procedure without the knowledge or consent of her parents.

Again, I got the full fetus porn in 12 years of Catholic School, thanks. Where they dug into medical waste containers and tried to claim third trimester miscarriages and claim they were first trimester abortions.

Which has nothing to do with your mentality regarding the destruction of human life. If you can't see how the baby reacts you can feel okay about destroying that life.

Sure I have. They don't do them at 8 weeks when most women have abortions. Because at 8 weeks, they don't look like anything.

So there should be no problem showing the mother what she's getting ready to destroy.

 

[JoeB131]

No, you do not, or you would not support strangers

I doubt anyone is going off with a "Stranger".

Which has nothing to do with your mentality regarding the destruction of human life.

Fetuses aren't people.

So there should be no problem showing the mother what she's getting ready to destroy.

No, you shouldn't force ANYONE to undergo a medical procedure they don't want to. This was the whole argument your side made against vaccine mandates.

 

[hadit]

I doubt anyone is going off with a "Stranger".

They are to the family.

Fetuses aren't people.

Legal, not biological, definition. We have all heard of the lawyer fairy who sprinkles his magic dust on a new-born and turns him from a turnip to a human being.

No, you shouldn't force ANYONE to undergo a medical procedure they don't want to. This was the whole argument your side made against vaccine mandates.

An abortion that penetrates the body and removes a baby from it isn't a surgical procedure but an ultrasound that doesn't penetrate the body and does no harm is a medical procedure that must not be mandated? You don't think they're going to do one anyway, so they know where the baby is to avoid blindly fumbling around in the uterus hoping to find and kill him/her?

 

[JoeB131]

They are to the family.

But to the girl, they are a friend, teacher or advisor they trust more than their crazy religious parents. That's the point. There isn't an "abortion-mobile" driving around snatching women off the streets and giving them abortions.

Legal, not biological, definition. We have all heard of the lawyer fairy who sprinkles his magic dust on a new-born and turns him from a turnip to a human being.

The legal definition is the one that counts, buddy. The government doesn't count fetuses as people. If your baby isn't born before Dec. 31st, you can't claim it on taxes. (My idiot brother was happy when his second daughter was born on Dec. 19th.) If you are still in Fetus Form after April 1st on a census year, you don't get counted in the Census. That's how it works. Fetuses aren't people under the law.

As far as biologically, most abortions are performed before the fetus is viable. FEW abortions are performed after week 20, and those are performed for darned good medical reasons.

An abortion that penetrates the body and removes a baby from it isn't a surgical procedure but an ultrasound that doesn't penetrate the body and does no harm is a medical procedure that must not be mandated? You don't think they're going to do one anyway, so they know where the baby is to avoid blindly fumbling around in the uterus hoping to find and kill him/her?

The thing is, the abortion is wanted, the ultrasound (which requires a wand to be stuck up their hoo-ha to get a picture of a globby fetus).

Abortion is usually a pretty simple procedure... Just suck little globby into the sink, and everyone is good with it.

 

[hadit]

But to the girl, they are a friend, teacher or advisor they trust more than their crazy religious parents. That's the point. There isn't an "abortion-mobile" driving around snatching women off the streets and giving them abortions.

The point is that no one has the moral authority to push girls into these things without their parents' knowledge and permission. And I notice that none of your persuasion are stepping up to take care of the girl after it. Y'all just dump her back on Mom and Dad for them to deal with. Remember your nonsense about not caring about babies after they're born? You, who doesn't like women very much, don't care about women or girls after they've served their purpose to keep abortion alive.

The legal definition is the one that counts, buddy. The government doesn't count fetuses as people. If your baby isn't born before Dec. 31st, you can't claim it on taxes. (My idiot brother was happy when his second daughter was born on Dec. 19th.) If you are still in Fetus Form after April 1st on a census year, you don't get counted in the Census. That's how it works. Fetuses aren't people under the law.

Yeah, yeah, we've had the law declare certain people as being less "people" than others in the past. We grew out of it, even fought a war over it.

As far as biologically, most abortions are performed before the fetus is viable. FEW abortions are performed after week 20, and those are performed for darned good medical reasons.

The viability argument is moot, since many an adult is non-viable off a machine, yet we are forbidden to cut them up with a saw.

The thing is, the abortion is wanted, the ultrasound (which requires a wand to be stuck up their hoo-ha to get a picture of a globby fetus).

Abortion is usually a pretty simple procedure... Just suck little globby into the sink, and everyone is good with it.

You seem to think if YOU are okay with it, everyone ELSE is okay with it. That is not a true statement.

 

[JoeB131]

The point is that no one has the moral authority to push girls into these things without their parents' knowledge and permission.

Except no one does that. There isn't an abortion-mobile driving around.

Yeah, yeah, we've had the law declare certain people as being less "people" than others in the past. We grew out of it, even fought a war over it.

When were fetuses EVER recogonized as people in the whole of human history?

The viability argument is moot, since many an adult is non-viable off a machine, yet we are forbidden to cut them up with a saw.

No, but this funny thing happens. OTHER people can make the decision to turn the machine off, and often do. You are just the king of bad analogies, aintcha?

You seem to think if YOU are okay with it, everyone ELSE is okay with it. That is not a true statement.

I could honestly care less what the bible thumping morons aren't okay with. If they don't like abortion, DON'T HAVE ONE.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Former college swimmer: Biden admin's proposal on trans athletes 'demoralizing and insulting'​

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[DigitalDrifter]

Former Olympians, Swimmers Send Letter of Concern to NCAA after Lia Thomas Championship Sweep​

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[protectionist]

HE didn't win anything. He stole it.

 

[Batcat]

To the American left, I just want to say you are disgraceful.

Lia Thomas Wins an N.C.A.A. Swimming Title​

With her victory in Atlanta, Thomas, who competes for the University of Pennsylvania, became the first openly transgender woman to win an N.C.A.A. swimming championship.

Lia Thomas Wins an N.C.A.A. Swimming Title (Published 2022)

With her victory in Atlanta, Thomas, who competes for the University of Pennsylvania, became the first openly transgender woman to win an N.C.A.A. swimming championship.

www.nytimes.com

One thing that might help is when you vote in the midterm elections vote against any and all Democrats at all levels of government. Do this even if you have to hold your nose.

Perhaps if enough voters do this we can restore sanity to the Democratic Party. No more grooming very young children in kindergarten or the first few grades and no more completions where trans women complete equally with real females. Maybe even no more skyrocketing inflation caused by foolish Democrat Party politicians.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

One thing that might help is when you vote in the midterm elections vote against any and all Democrats at all levels of government. Do this even if you have to hold your nose.

Perhaps if enough voters do this we can restore sanity to the Democratic Party. No more grooming very young children in kindergarten or the first few grades and no more completions where trans women complete equally with real females. Maybe even no more skyrocketing inflation caused by foolish Democrat Party politicians.

I think the Democrat party is too long gone for that. AOC and the idiot three are running the show in the background now, and they are all Socialists or Communists.

Voters on the left want them to keep going even further left, even with the devastation they've done to this country so far. With the aid and brainwashing of the MSM, they actually believe that all the problems going on today have nothing to do with Dementia or his party. It's Trump, or Putin, or China, but not Dementia's fault in the least.

 

[JoeB131]

I think the Democrat party is too long gone for that. AOC and the idiot three are running the show in the background now, and they are all Socialists or Communists.

Voters on the left want them to keep going even further left, even with the devastation they've done to this country so far. With the aid and brainwashing of the MSM, they actually believe that all the problems going on today have nothing to do with Dementia or his party. It's Trump, or Putin, or China, but not Dementia's fault in the least.

It's not Biden's fault you are a failure of a man and collect welfare, Ray.

 

[Batcat]

I think the Democrat party is too long gone for that. AOC and the idiot three are running the show in the background now, and they are all Socialists or Communists.

Voters on the left want them to keep going even further left, even with the devastation they've done to this country so far. With the aid and brainwashing of the MSM, they actually believe that all the problems going on today have nothing to do with Dementia or his party. It's Trump, or Putin, or China, but not Dementia's fault in the least.

Our public educational system sucks in many cities. Many highschool grads can’t read or do basic math above elementary level.

I have often wondered if the Dems are trying to dumb down the voters knowing that smart voters don’t vote for Marxist socialists who are weak on crime and want open borders.

 

[JoeB131]

Our public educational system sucks in many cities. Many highschool grads can’t read or do basic math above elementary level.

I have often wondered if the Dems are trying to dumb down the voters knowing that smart voters don’t vote for Marxist socialists who are weak on crime and want open borders.

Really, I see just as many dumb white conservatives from the rural areas... if the illiteracy rate on USMB is any example.

We aren't weak on crime, we have the most brutal penal system in the industrialized world.

 

[Orangecat]

The dude Lia Thomas wins women's NCAA swimming title​

Men are generally stronger than women, so this is no surprise. That's why they usually compete in separate leagues.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Our public educational system sucks in many cities. Many highschool grads can’t read or do basic math above elementary level.

I have often wondered if the Dems are trying to dumb down the voters knowing that smart voters don’t vote for Marxist socialists who are weak on crime and want open borders.

What they need is a dependent class of people. They've been successful with the blacks, but as they become more educated and knowledgeable of history, they are leaving the Democrat party and need to be replaced. That's why they are opening up the floodgates at our southern border. The Democrats are thinking down the road. It's why Dementia is stopping Title 42 at the end of next month.

 

[hadit]

What they need is a dependent class of people. They've been successful with the blacks, but as they become more educated and knowledgeable of history, they are leaving the Democrat party and need to be replaced. That's why they are opening up the floodgates at our southern border. The Democrats are thinking down the road. It's why Dementia is stopping Title 42 at the end of next month.

They're making a huge mistake with Hispanics, though, thinking they can safely get between parents and their children.