The dreaded gay-wedding-cake saga ends: bakers must pay 135 K

[eagle1462010]

Simple formula,

if your love of baking cakes doesn't exceed your hatred of gays, get out of the cake business.

Nice way to sugar coat disregarding other peoples beliefs..........

Obey............or else and say you are for Freedom......
This case needs to go to the Supremes.........

They may end up owing 500,000 if it does and the supremes may throw them in jail.

Plenty of pro bono types and even states would go with them.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Simple formula,

if your love of baking cakes doesn't exceed your hatred of gays, get out of the cake business.

Nice way to sugar coat disregarding other peoples beliefs..........

Obey............or else and say you are for Freedom......
This case needs to go to the Supremes.........

If discrimination is an acceptable belief to practice, shouldn't all laws against discrimination be repealed?

Divert...........they shouldn't have to go against their beliefs..........It's a small business and they own it..............so then it becomes a public versus private property debate..........

How about this.........to avoid future misunderstandings..........they call it a members only store..........Those that shop there sign a membership form and get 5% off the cake price................Gays demand to get cake..........not a member........oh well...........Bars have been doing this for ages to avoid this shit.

Then they should do that.

If discrimination is an acceptable belief to practice, shouldn't all laws against discrimination be repealed?

 

[NYcarbineer]

When Jesus fed the multitude with the miracle of the loaves and fishes,

I wonder if he had his disciples screen the crowd for gays?

No fish sandwich for you!!!!!!!!

lol, fake Christianity is so lame.

I love it when the atheist left quotes the Bible doing so is so rich in hypocrisy.

I can look objectively on what the Bible says and doesn't say. I'm not the one inventing Christian beliefs.

 

[eagle1462010]

Simple formula,

if your love of baking cakes doesn't exceed your hatred of gays, get out of the cake business.

Nice way to sugar coat disregarding other peoples beliefs..........

Obey............or else and say you are for Freedom......
This case needs to go to the Supremes.........

If discrimination is an acceptable belief to practice, shouldn't all laws against discrimination be repealed?

Divert...........they shouldn't have to go against their beliefs..........It's a small business and they own it..............so then it becomes a public versus private property debate..........

How about this.........to avoid future misunderstandings..........they call it a members only store..........Those that shop there sign a membership form and get 5% off the cake price................Gays demand to get cake..........not a member........oh well...........Bars have been doing this for ages to avoid this shit.

Then they should do that.

If discrimination is an acceptable belief to practice, shouldn't all laws against discrimination be repealed?

One trick pony........you are........

If your side uses Judicial Activism to move your agenda...............then eventually you may get the same in return.........There are legal loop holes to avoid your shit and challenge it...............

If it ever goes that way..............be prepared to jump through hoops like the clowns in the circus you are.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When Jesus fed the multitude with the miracle of the loaves and fishes,

I wonder if he had his disciples screen the crowd for gays?

No fish sandwich for you!!!!!!!!

lol, fake Christianity is so lame.

I love it when the atheist left quotes the Bible doing so is so rich in hypocrisy.

I'm not the one using religion to justify ignoring the law of the land.

 

[amrchaos]

135k is pretty steep fine for bigotry

Shouldn't it max out around 10k per 'simple' incident?

 

[bodecea]

Does the GLOATING ever stop with these people? having a Government FINE SOMEONE for not BAKING a cake and these people see nothing wrong with this.

that's fascism and Oppression of our Freedoms all over a gawddamn CAKE

JUST call us the USSR

What have you actively done to repeal PA laws in your state? Because this is where your beef really is....laws that prevent businesses from refusing service to groups based on race, religion, etc.

 

[Mac1958]

135k is pretty steep fine for bigotry

Shouldn't it max out around 10k per 'simple' incident?

No, they want to intimidate others from daring to cross them, as well.

A million would have been just fine.

.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Simple formula,

if your love of baking cakes doesn't exceed your hatred of gays, get out of the cake business.

Nice way to sugar coat disregarding other peoples beliefs..........

Obey............or else and say you are for Freedom......
This case needs to go to the Supremes.........

If discrimination is an acceptable belief to practice, shouldn't all laws against discrimination be repealed?

Divert...........they shouldn't have to go against their beliefs..........It's a small business and they own it..............so then it becomes a public versus private property debate..........

How about this.........to avoid future misunderstandings..........they call it a members only store..........Those that shop there sign a membership form and get 5% off the cake price................Gays demand to get cake..........not a member........oh well...........Bars have been doing this for ages to avoid this shit.

Then they should do that.

If discrimination is an acceptable belief to practice, shouldn't all laws against discrimination be repealed?

One trick pony........you are........

If your side uses Judicial Activism to move your agenda...............then eventually you may get the same in return.........There are legal loop holes to avoid your shit and challenge it...............

If it ever goes that way..............be prepared to jump through hoops like the clowns in the circus you are.

Can you find scripture that commands a Christian to refuse to do business with gays?

Or is the argument you're making here that anyone should be able to believe anything they want, call it religion, and dodge any law they don't like?

 

[bodecea]

how many small businesses having to close up shop over this shit will be ENOUGH for these people? don't even think they done. they are just GETTING STARTED

how many small businesses having to close up shop over this shit will be ENOUGH for these people? don't even think they done. they are just GETTING STARTED

Maybe the same number of businesses that have had to close over refusing to serve minorities because of PA laws.

 

[bodecea]

snip:
Oregon ruling really takes the cake -- Christian bakery guilty of violating civil rights of lesbian couple

By Todd Starnes

Published January 21, 2014
FoxNews.com



FILE - In this undated photograph Aaron Klein stands behind the counter of his Oregon bakery, Sweet Cakes by Melissa. Since this photo was taken the store has closed. The Kleins now operate their bakery business out of their home. (Sweet Cakes by Melissa)

The owners of a Christian bakery who refused to make a wedding cake for a lesbian couple are facing hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines after they were found guilty of violating the couple’s civil rights.

The Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries said they found “substantial evidence” that Sweet Cakes by Melissa discriminated against the lesbian couple and violated the Oregon Equality Act of 2007, a law that protects the rights of the LGBT community.

Last year, the bakery’s owners refused to make a wedding cake for Rachel Cryer and Laurel Bowman, of Portland, citing their Christian beliefs. The couple then filed a complaint with the state.



“The investigation concludes that the bakery is not a religious institution under the law and that the business’ policy of refusing to make same-sex wedding cakes represents unlawful discrimination based on sexual orientation,” said Charlie Burr, a spokesman for the Bureau of Labor and Industries.


The backlash against Aaron and Melissa Klein, owners of the bakery, was severe. Gay rights groups launched protests and pickets outside the family’s store. They threatened wedding vendors who did business with the bakery. And, Klein told me, the family’s children were the targets of death threats.

The family eventually had to close their retail shop and now operate the bakery out of their home. They posted a message vowing to stand firm in their faith. It read, in part:

all of it here
Oregon ruling really takes the cake -- Christian bakery guilty of violating civil rights of lesbian couple Fox News

Todd Starnes. You know if he supports something it's a huge lie.

 

[bodecea]

Simple formula,

if your love of baking cakes doesn't exceed your hatred of gays, get out of the cake business.

Nice way to sugar coat disregarding other peoples beliefs..........

Obey............or else and say you are for Freedom......
This case needs to go to the Supremes.........

Go for it, but if I'm not mistaken, PA laws have already gone up to SCOTUS and been declared Constitutional...but you can actively work in your state to get them repealed. Have you been working to do so? Or are you just whining?

 

[jknowgood]

"Within Oregon's public accommodations law is the basic principle of human decency that every person, regardless of their sexual orientation, has the freedom to fully participate in society. The ability to enter public places, to shop, to dine, to move about unfettered by bigotry."

So what do you think about wal mart not baking a rebel flag cake?

 

[Iceweasel]

Simple formula,

if your love of baking cakes doesn't exceed your hatred of gays, get out of the cake business.

Where does it say they hated anyone? Oh that's right, it didn't. You lied.

 

[Iceweasel]

They made their choice to defy the law. Should that be without consequences?

Of course not. We need to go back to the Constitution.

 

[bodecea]

"Within Oregon's public accommodations law is the basic principle of human decency that every person, regardless of their sexual orientation, has the freedom to fully participate in society. The ability to enter public places, to shop, to dine, to move about unfettered by bigotry."

So what do you think about wal mart not baking a rebel flag cake?

What state did they do that in? And what are that state's PA laws?

 

[eagle1462010]

Nice way to sugar coat disregarding other peoples beliefs..........

Obey............or else and say you are for Freedom......
This case needs to go to the Supremes.........

If discrimination is an acceptable belief to practice, shouldn't all laws against discrimination be repealed?

Divert...........they shouldn't have to go against their beliefs..........It's a small business and they own it..............so then it becomes a public versus private property debate..........

How about this.........to avoid future misunderstandings..........they call it a members only store..........Those that shop there sign a membership form and get 5% off the cake price................Gays demand to get cake..........not a member........oh well...........Bars have been doing this for ages to avoid this shit.

Then they should do that.

If discrimination is an acceptable belief to practice, shouldn't all laws against discrimination be repealed?

One trick pony........you are........

If your side uses Judicial Activism to move your agenda...............then eventually you may get the same in return.........There are legal loop holes to avoid your shit and challenge it...............

If it ever goes that way..............be prepared to jump through hoops like the clowns in the circus you are.

Can you find scripture that commands a Christian to refuse to do business with gays?

Or is the argument you're making here that anyone should be able to believe anything they want, call it religion, and dodge any law they don't like?

Freedom of Religion and Religious be damned in the process..........as was implied by some at SCOTUS just not in the same words....................

OBEY OR BE DESTROYED the Judicial activism of the left...................

There will be blow back and more challenges..........it isn't over until the Fat Lady Sings...........so eat your cake and be happy heathen..............

 

[amrchaos]

135k is pretty steep fine for bigotry

Shouldn't it max out around 10k per 'simple' incident?

No, they want to intimidate others from daring to cross them, as well.

A million would have been just fine.

.

No
Although I am on the side f the pro gay marriage crowd, those bakers need to challenge that ruling and at least have it reduced!!

I think 10k is a bit much--135k? There are Neo-nazi's that did not pay fines that high for beating people up! It is an absurd fine for not baking a cake.

 

[eagle1462010]

Simple formula,

if your love of baking cakes doesn't exceed your hatred of gays, get out of the cake business.

Nice way to sugar coat disregarding other peoples beliefs..........

Obey............or else and say you are for Freedom......
This case needs to go to the Supremes.........

Go for it, but if I'm not mistaken, PA laws have already gone up to SCOTUS and been declared Constitutional...but you can actively work in your state to get them repealed. Have you been working to do so? Or are you just whining?

I don't have that kind of money.........so spare me the drama Queen BS.............

The sword eventually cuts both ways.............KARMA is a bitch.

 

[rightwinger]

"Within Oregon's public accommodations law is the basic principle of human decency that every person, regardless of their sexual orientation, has the freedom to fully participate in society. The ability to enter public places, to shop, to dine, to move about unfettered by bigotry."

So what do you think about wal mart not baking a rebel flag cake?

Racism is not a protected class