The Disreputable Robert Mueller

[alang1216]

But.....I happen to have a list of some of the most egregious by Hussein.....I challenge you to produce as monumental and damaging a list as this:

1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

Happy to oblige. Here is the first page of 20. Follow the links on the bottom of the page to go to the next 12 pages.

BTW, Obama was right about the drilling. Oil in the ground is a finite resource which will eventually become exhausted.

 

[alang1216]

then there's this one...

House Intel report: McCabe said agents who interviewed Flynn 'didn’t think he was lying'
"The House Intelligence Committee on Friday released a newly unredacted section of its final Russia report detailing testimony from former senior FBI officials about the probe into former national security adviser Michael Flynn and his contacts with a top Russian diplomat.

The unredacted portion of the report, written by Republicans on the panel, details testimony from former FBI Director James Comey and his then-deputy, Andrew McCabe. The report says McCabe, in particular, testified that the two agents who interviewed Flynn “didn’t think he was lying.""

You can go with second hand thinking or you can go to the source, Flynn himself. Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn, for example, pled guilty to intentionally making false statements to the FBI.

what's that to do with the supposed lie you claimed trump made. I just refuted it. you can't change the ball field cause you got beat.

Trump said Flynn wasn't lying. Flynn admitted he was lying. You refuted nothing.

 

[jc456]

So these idiotic trumpers are still whining about people like manafort getting convicted on multiple felonies?

But have the nerve to say "drain the swamp"?? gtfoh

not sure your point. if he was the swamp, he's now gone. nobody fking cares about him. The issue at hand is, his ugly behavior began under the Pedesta Group. When are they going down for the same thing? oh wait immunity. LOL. can't make it up. you ain't for draining nothing but your unit.

But you complain about "HE" and others being charged at all... because "YOU" feel if it wasn't for that meddling Mueller and those pesky kids-- Manafort and others would have gotten away with it...
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Which makes you an enabler of the very same corruption you claim to be against -- but the truth of the matter is, you could careless about corruption as long as its someone from your team.

dude, you are so far off base you left the ball field. but thanks for playing. I just want everyone involved with the same crime to be charged as he was. that's all, again, you avoid why you don't.

And lastly, nothing to do with russia russia as you all stated. hmmmmmm how convenient.

 

[alang1216]

Puerto Rico got 91 Billion Dollars for the hurricane, more money than has ever been gotten for a hurricane before."

What's the lie?

Trump's Tweet was wrong about the dollar amount the territory has received and wrong when he said it was a record.

so what are the numbers? why don't you all ever provide the supporting material to make your point? right now, you got absolutely nothing. ready set go!

Since you seem incapable of following a link:
Donald Trump falsely tweets that Puerto Rico got $91 billion in hurricane aid
By Amy Sherman on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2019 at 5:35 p.m.

In this Jan. 31, 2018 file photo, Public Works Sub-Director Ramon Mendez, wearing a hard hat at left, works with municipal workers, as they install a new post to return electricity in El Ortiz sector of Coamo, Puerto Rico. (AP)
After Democrats and Republicans in the Senate failed to reach an agreement on disaster aid for Puerto Rico, President Donald Trump falsely tweeted about the amount of hurricane aid already distributed.

"Puerto Rico got 91 Billion Dollars for the hurricane, more money than has ever been gotten for a hurricane before, & all their local politicians do is complain & ask for more money. The pols are grossly incompetent, spend the money foolishly or corruptly, & only take from USA....," Trump tweeted April 2.

Then he praised his own leadership:

"....The best thing that ever happened to Puerto Rico is President Donald J. Trump. So many wonderful people, but with such bad Island leadership and with so much money wasted. Cannot continue to hurt our Farmers and States with these massive payments, and so little appreciation!"





We found that Trump is wrong about the dollar amount the territory has received and wrong when he said it was a record.

His comments about hurricane aid follow other misleading statements he made related to the 2017 hurricanes Irma and Maria in Puerto Rico. Trump mischaracterized the death toll saying the estimate was "done by Democrats," and he exaggerated the poor condition of Puerto Rico’s electrical grid before the hurricanes.

The future of aid to Puerto Rico is up in the air after the Senate failed to move forward on legislation. Both parties have pointed fingers at each other for not reaching an agreement after months of proposals.

While proposals from both parties have included $600 million for food assistance for Puerto Rico, Democrats want millions more for other needs in Puerto Rico including for the electrical grid, FEMA reimbursement and water projects.

Puerto Rico has not received $91 billion
The federal government’s recovery website shows shows $40.7 billion has been allocated (Congress appropriated the spending) through December 2018. Of that, $19.4 billion has been obligated (the government has promised to spend the money) and of that $11.2 billion has been spent. The money comes from various agencies and funds including FEMA, U.S. Housing and Urban Development, the Community Development Fund and the Disaster Relief Fund.

A senior administration official told PolitiFact that Trump arrived at the $91 billion figure by combining the roughly $41 billion already allocated with additional estimated future FEMA costs of $50 billion. (The Washington Post’s Fact Checker wrote that the $50 billion was a high end estimate of what would need to be committed under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act of 1988.)

That means the $50 billion is speculative, said Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense.

"It may be spent, it may not, and some of it will be far into the future," he said.

How far into the future? A look at Katrina spending shows it can last for more than a decade after a storm.

There is still Disaster Relief Fund money being paid out related to Katrina (and Rita and Wilma, also 2005 storms), to the tune of nearly $200 million this year, Ellis said.

Sorting out exactly how much the federal government has spent after disasters is tricky. Some hurricanes hit more than one state, and some states receive money for multiple disasters.

Comparing how much various jurisdictions have gotten for different disasters is not an apples-to-apples comparison because some disasters create more damage. Comparisons to disaster aid in Puerto Rico versus other storms also omits inflation and that it is more expensive to get disaster supplies to Puerto Rico ,which is located approximately 1,000 nautical miles from the U.S. mainland.

"Obviously Puerto Rico is not in the continental U.S. so all supplies have to be sent by ship or plane, which increases costs," Ellis said. "You can truck supplies into Louisiana and Texas and Florida. Inflation is a factor -- $1 billion in 2005 is worth more than $1 billion in 2017."

Federal officials did not respond to our questions asking how Trump concluded that the $91 billion figure was more than any other disaster. But federal reports show that the government has already spent more on Hurricane Katrina -- and that’s without factoring in inflation. The Congressional Research Service estimated in 2014 that "Congress provided roughly $120 billion for Hurricane Katrina."

In his attack on Puerto Rico disaster spending, Trump said that we "cannot continue to hurt our Farmers and States with these massive payments, and so little appreciation!"

The federal government pays for disasters in various states and the territory of Puerto Rico, which is a part of the United States. (This is despite the comments by White House spokesman Hogan Gidley on MSNBC who referred to Puerto Rico as "that country." He called it a slip of the tongue.)

Our ruling
Trump tweeted "Puerto Rico got $91 Billion for the hurricane, more money than has ever been gotten for a hurricane before."

Trump arrived at that figure by combining the $41 billion already allocated with additional estimated future FEMA costs over the life of the disaster of $50 billion. But that future payment is speculative, and it will be years before we know how much of it is realized.

Even if the $91 billion is the ultimate cost down the road, the federal government already has estimated it spent $120 billion on Hurricane Katrina.

 

[jc456]

then there's this one...

House Intel report: McCabe said agents who interviewed Flynn 'didn’t think he was lying'
"The House Intelligence Committee on Friday released a newly unredacted section of its final Russia report detailing testimony from former senior FBI officials about the probe into former national security adviser Michael Flynn and his contacts with a top Russian diplomat.

The unredacted portion of the report, written by Republicans on the panel, details testimony from former FBI Director James Comey and his then-deputy, Andrew McCabe. The report says McCabe, in particular, testified that the two agents who interviewed Flynn “didn’t think he was lying.""

You can go with second hand thinking or you can go to the source, Flynn himself. Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn, for example, pled guilty to intentionally making false statements to the FBI.

what's that to do with the supposed lie you claimed trump made. I just refuted it. you can't change the ball field cause you got beat.

Trump said Flynn wasn't lying. Flynn admitted he was lying. You refuted nothing.

dude, please reread it. you kind of got a little drunk right there. now, what was the supposed lie? can we stick with your original charge.

 

[jc456]

But.....I happen to have a list of some of the most egregious by Hussein.....I challenge you to produce as monumental and damaging a list as this:

1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

Happy to oblige. Here is the first page of 20. Follow the links on the bottom of the page to go to the next 12 pages.

BTW, Obama was right about the drilling. Oil in the ground is a finite resource which will eventually become exhausted.

how do you know something is finite? you've been to infinity have you? Are you nicknamed Buzz Lightyears/ Too funny the cracks you all walk in. butt crack baby we should call you.

And again, your accusation has been proven false. and now you want to repeat them. too funny. I pulled the first two lies you accused trump of and nope. I won't go any further, it is an obvious scam from an obvious scumball.

 

[alang1216]

then there's this one...

House Intel report: McCabe said agents who interviewed Flynn 'didn’t think he was lying'
"The House Intelligence Committee on Friday released a newly unredacted section of its final Russia report detailing testimony from former senior FBI officials about the probe into former national security adviser Michael Flynn and his contacts with a top Russian diplomat.

The unredacted portion of the report, written by Republicans on the panel, details testimony from former FBI Director James Comey and his then-deputy, Andrew McCabe. The report says McCabe, in particular, testified that the two agents who interviewed Flynn “didn’t think he was lying.""

You can go with second hand thinking or you can go to the source, Flynn himself. Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn, for example, pled guilty to intentionally making false statements to the FBI.

what's that to do with the supposed lie you claimed trump made. I just refuted it. you can't change the ball field cause you got beat.

Trump said Flynn wasn't lying. Flynn admitted he was lying. You refuted nothing.

dude, please reread it. you kind of got a little drunk right there. now, what was the supposed lie? can we stick with your original charge.

"The FBI said (former national security adviser Michael Flynn) wasn't lying."
— Donald Trump on Wednesday, March 27th, 2019 in an interview on Hannity

Trump said this AFTER Flynn had already pled guilty of lying to the FBI.

Apparently Flynn didn’t appear flustered or nervous when he lied to the FBI. A partially redacted FBI memo — known as a 302 — states that the FBI agents said Flynn "did not give any indicators of deception." Not the same thing as say he wasn't lying. During Michael Flynn’s sentencing phase, the special counsel reiterated the agents’ impression.

This seems to be the basis for Trump’s claim. But Trump’s selective reading gives a false impression itself.

Lawyers for the special counsel’s office said Flynn’s seemingly guileless demeanor did not change the fact that he was lying — which Flynn himself admitted.

 

[alang1216]

But.....I happen to have a list of some of the most egregious by Hussein.....I challenge you to produce as monumental and damaging a list as this:

1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

Happy to oblige. Here is the first page of 20. Follow the links on the bottom of the page to go to the next 12 pages.

BTW, Obama was right about the drilling. Oil in the ground is a finite resource which will eventually become exhausted.

how do you know something is finite? you've been to infinity have you? Are you nicknamed Buzz Lightyears/ Too funny the cracks you all walk in. butt crack baby we should call you.

And again, your accusation has been proven false. and now you want to repeat them. too funny. I pulled the first two lies you accused trump of and nope. I won't go any further, it is an obvious scam from an obvious scumball.

You might be the only one who thinks the Earth is infinite. Not sure what dimension you're from???

 

[PoliticalChic]

But.....I happen to have a list of some of the most egregious by Hussein.....I challenge you to produce as monumental and damaging a list as this:

1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

Happy to oblige. Here is the first page of 20. Follow the links on the bottom of the page to go to the next 12 pages.

BTW, Obama was right about the drilling. Oil in the ground is a finite resource which will eventually become exhausted.

But.....I happen to have a list of some of the most egregious by Hussein.....I challenge you to produce as monumental and damaging a list as this:

1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

Happy to oblige. Here is the first page of 20. Follow the links on the bottom of the page to go to the next 12 pages.

BTW, Obama was right about the drilling. Oil in the ground is a finite resource which will eventually become exhausted.

These are nonsense.


Obama's are lies of significance.


“Trump’s Lies versus Obama’s” was the headline in a Sunday Review New York Times piece aiming to drive a final coffin nail into Trump’s credibility. The Times claimed Trump has already “told nearly six times as many falsehoods as Obama did during his entire (8-year) presidency.” The columnists seem so distraught that it is surprising the article is not in all caps.

But the Times’ list of falsehoods is itself a charade with gaping Montana-sized holes.

The Times’ comparison of Trump and other presidents implies that all lies are equally damnable. The Times ignored all the Obama false promises used to justify his troop surge in Afghanistan (which resulted in more than a thousand dead American troops with nothing to show for the sacrifice) and bombing Libya (which now has slave markets).

…Obama’s lies help explain why only 20 percent of Americans trusted the federal government at the end of Obama’s reign.”

How quickly NY Times forgets Obama's lies and frauds

 

[jc456]

then there's this one...

House Intel report: McCabe said agents who interviewed Flynn 'didn’t think he was lying'
"The House Intelligence Committee on Friday released a newly unredacted section of its final Russia report detailing testimony from former senior FBI officials about the probe into former national security adviser Michael Flynn and his contacts with a top Russian diplomat.

The unredacted portion of the report, written by Republicans on the panel, details testimony from former FBI Director James Comey and his then-deputy, Andrew McCabe. The report says McCabe, in particular, testified that the two agents who interviewed Flynn “didn’t think he was lying.""

You can go with second hand thinking or you can go to the source, Flynn himself. Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn, for example, pled guilty to intentionally making false statements to the FBI.

what's that to do with the supposed lie you claimed trump made. I just refuted it. you can't change the ball field cause you got beat.

Trump said Flynn wasn't lying. Flynn admitted he was lying. You refuted nothing.

dude, please reread it. you kind of got a little drunk right there. now, what was the supposed lie? can we stick with your original charge.

"The FBI said (former national security adviser Michael Flynn) wasn't lying."
— Donald Trump on Wednesday, March 27th, 2019 in an interview on Hannity

Trump said this AFTER Flynn had already pled guilty of lying to the FBI.

Apparently Flynn didn’t appear flustered or nervous when he lied to the FBI. A partially redacted FBI memo — known as a 302 — states that the FBI agents said Flynn "did not give any indicators of deception." Not the same thing as say he wasn't lying. During Michael Flynn’s sentencing phase, the special counsel reiterated the agents’ impression.

This seems to be the basis for Trump’s claim. But Trump’s selective reading gives a false impression itself.

Lawyers for the special counsel’s office said Flynn’s seemingly guileless demeanor did not change the fact that he was lying — which Flynn himself admitted.

dude, you said trump lied. he didn't. fking deal with it. you lost.

 

[jc456]

But.....I happen to have a list of some of the most egregious by Hussein.....I challenge you to produce as monumental and damaging a list as this:

1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

Happy to oblige. Here is the first page of 20. Follow the links on the bottom of the page to go to the next 12 pages.

BTW, Obama was right about the drilling. Oil in the ground is a finite resource which will eventually become exhausted.

But.....I happen to have a list of some of the most egregious by Hussein.....I challenge you to produce as monumental and damaging a list as this:

1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

Happy to oblige. Here is the first page of 20. Follow the links on the bottom of the page to go to the next 12 pages.

BTW, Obama was right about the drilling. Oil in the ground is a finite resource which will eventually become exhausted.

These are nonsense.


Obama's are lies of significance.


“Trump’s Lies versus Obama’s” was the headline in a Sunday Review New York Times piece aiming to drive a final coffin nail into Trump’s credibility. The Times claimed Trump has already “told nearly six times as many falsehoods as Obama did during his entire (8-year) presidency.” The columnists seem so distraught that it is surprising the article is not in all caps.

But the Times’ list of falsehoods is itself a charade with gaping Montana-sized holes.

The Times’ comparison of Trump and other presidents implies that all lies are equally damnable. The Times ignored all the Obama false promises used to justify his troop surge in Afghanistan (which resulted in more than a thousand dead American troops with nothing to show for the sacrifice) and bombing Libya (which now has slave markets).

…Obama’s lies help explain why only 20 percent of Americans trusted the federal government at the end of Obama’s reign.”

How quickly NY Times forgets Obama's lies and frauds

PC, I already proved the first two in his list as lies themselves. he's got nothing. wow, I believe the term is grasping for straws. I hope they're paper.

 

[jc456]

But.....I happen to have a list of some of the most egregious by Hussein.....I challenge you to produce as monumental and damaging a list as this:

1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

Happy to oblige. Here is the first page of 20. Follow the links on the bottom of the page to go to the next 12 pages.

BTW, Obama was right about the drilling. Oil in the ground is a finite resource which will eventually become exhausted.

how do you know something is finite? you've been to infinity have you? Are you nicknamed Buzz Lightyears/ Too funny the cracks you all walk in. butt crack baby we should call you.

And again, your accusation has been proven false. and now you want to repeat them. too funny. I pulled the first two lies you accused trump of and nope. I won't go any further, it is an obvious scam from an obvious scumball.

You might be the only one who thinks the Earth is infinite. Not sure what dimension you're from???

when it isn't, we won't be here. so, not sure what your point is? the thing is, dude, you make like this all knowing asshole and all you are is an asshole. the earth core is on fking fire. When that fire goes out, we're all dead. So for all practical purpose that is infinite. See you believe the oil and natural gas is from decayed dinosaurs. too funny.

 

[PoliticalChic]

But.....I happen to have a list of some of the most egregious by Hussein.....I challenge you to produce as monumental and damaging a list as this:

1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

Happy to oblige. Here is the first page of 20. Follow the links on the bottom of the page to go to the next 12 pages.

BTW, Obama was right about the drilling. Oil in the ground is a finite resource which will eventually become exhausted.

But.....I happen to have a list of some of the most egregious by Hussein.....I challenge you to produce as monumental and damaging a list as this:

1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

Happy to oblige. Here is the first page of 20. Follow the links on the bottom of the page to go to the next 12 pages.

BTW, Obama was right about the drilling. Oil in the ground is a finite resource which will eventually become exhausted.

These are nonsense.


Obama's are lies of significance.


“Trump’s Lies versus Obama’s” was the headline in a Sunday Review New York Times piece aiming to drive a final coffin nail into Trump’s credibility. The Times claimed Trump has already “told nearly six times as many falsehoods as Obama did during his entire (8-year) presidency.” The columnists seem so distraught that it is surprising the article is not in all caps.

But the Times’ list of falsehoods is itself a charade with gaping Montana-sized holes.

The Times’ comparison of Trump and other presidents implies that all lies are equally damnable. The Times ignored all the Obama false promises used to justify his troop surge in Afghanistan (which resulted in more than a thousand dead American troops with nothing to show for the sacrifice) and bombing Libya (which now has slave markets).

…Obama’s lies help explain why only 20 percent of Americans trusted the federal government at the end of Obama’s reign.”

How quickly NY Times forgets Obama's lies and frauds

PC, I already proved the first two in his list as lies themselves. he's got nothing. wow, I believe the term is grasping for straws. I hope they're paper.

He has one thing that's a real danger to America.




A vote.

 

[jc456]

Puerto Rico got 91 Billion Dollars for the hurricane, more money than has ever been gotten for a hurricane before."

What's the lie?

Trump's Tweet was wrong about the dollar amount the territory has received and wrong when he said it was a record.

so what are the numbers? why don't you all ever provide the supporting material to make your point? right now, you got absolutely nothing. ready set go!

Since you seem incapable of following a link:
Donald Trump falsely tweets that Puerto Rico got $91 billion in hurricane aid
By Amy Sherman on Wednesday, April 3rd, 2019 at 5:35 p.m.

In this Jan. 31, 2018 file photo, Public Works Sub-Director Ramon Mendez, wearing a hard hat at left, works with municipal workers, as they install a new post to return electricity in El Ortiz sector of Coamo, Puerto Rico. (AP)
After Democrats and Republicans in the Senate failed to reach an agreement on disaster aid for Puerto Rico, President Donald Trump falsely tweeted about the amount of hurricane aid already distributed.

"Puerto Rico got 91 Billion Dollars for the hurricane, more money than has ever been gotten for a hurricane before, & all their local politicians do is complain & ask for more money. The pols are grossly incompetent, spend the money foolishly or corruptly, & only take from USA....," Trump tweeted April 2.

Then he praised his own leadership:

"....The best thing that ever happened to Puerto Rico is President Donald J. Trump. So many wonderful people, but with such bad Island leadership and with so much money wasted. Cannot continue to hurt our Farmers and States with these massive payments, and so little appreciation!"





We found that Trump is wrong about the dollar amount the territory has received and wrong when he said it was a record.

His comments about hurricane aid follow other misleading statements he made related to the 2017 hurricanes Irma and Maria in Puerto Rico. Trump mischaracterized the death toll saying the estimate was "done by Democrats," and he exaggerated the poor condition of Puerto Rico’s electrical grid before the hurricanes.

The future of aid to Puerto Rico is up in the air after the Senate failed to move forward on legislation. Both parties have pointed fingers at each other for not reaching an agreement after months of proposals.

While proposals from both parties have included $600 million for food assistance for Puerto Rico, Democrats want millions more for other needs in Puerto Rico including for the electrical grid, FEMA reimbursement and water projects.

Puerto Rico has not received $91 billion
The federal government’s recovery website shows shows $40.7 billion has been allocated (Congress appropriated the spending) through December 2018. Of that, $19.4 billion has been obligated (the government has promised to spend the money) and of that $11.2 billion has been spent. The money comes from various agencies and funds including FEMA, U.S. Housing and Urban Development, the Community Development Fund and the Disaster Relief Fund.

A senior administration official told PolitiFact that Trump arrived at the $91 billion figure by combining the roughly $41 billion already allocated with additional estimated future FEMA costs of $50 billion. (The Washington Post’s Fact Checker wrote that the $50 billion was a high end estimate of what would need to be committed under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act of 1988.)

That means the $50 billion is speculative, said Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense.

"It may be spent, it may not, and some of it will be far into the future," he said.

How far into the future? A look at Katrina spending shows it can last for more than a decade after a storm.

There is still Disaster Relief Fund money being paid out related to Katrina (and Rita and Wilma, also 2005 storms), to the tune of nearly $200 million this year, Ellis said.

Sorting out exactly how much the federal government has spent after disasters is tricky. Some hurricanes hit more than one state, and some states receive money for multiple disasters.

Comparing how much various jurisdictions have gotten for different disasters is not an apples-to-apples comparison because some disasters create more damage. Comparisons to disaster aid in Puerto Rico versus other storms also omits inflation and that it is more expensive to get disaster supplies to Puerto Rico ,which is located approximately 1,000 nautical miles from the U.S. mainland.

"Obviously Puerto Rico is not in the continental U.S. so all supplies have to be sent by ship or plane, which increases costs," Ellis said. "You can truck supplies into Louisiana and Texas and Florida. Inflation is a factor -- $1 billion in 2005 is worth more than $1 billion in 2017."

Federal officials did not respond to our questions asking how Trump concluded that the $91 billion figure was more than any other disaster. But federal reports show that the government has already spent more on Hurricane Katrina -- and that’s without factoring in inflation. The Congressional Research Service estimated in 2014 that "Congress provided roughly $120 billion for Hurricane Katrina."

In his attack on Puerto Rico disaster spending, Trump said that we "cannot continue to hurt our Farmers and States with these massive payments, and so little appreciation!"

The federal government pays for disasters in various states and the territory of Puerto Rico, which is a part of the United States. (This is despite the comments by White House spokesman Hogan Gidley on MSNBC who referred to Puerto Rico as "that country." He called it a slip of the tongue.)

Our ruling
Trump tweeted "Puerto Rico got $91 Billion for the hurricane, more money than has ever been gotten for a hurricane before."

Trump arrived at that figure by combining the $41 billion already allocated with additional estimated future FEMA costs over the life of the disaster of $50 billion. But that future payment is speculative, and it will be years before we know how much of it is realized.

Even if the $91 billion is the ultimate cost down the road, the federal government already has estimated it spent $120 billion on Hurricane Katrina.

so dude where is the lie? I'm still waiting? the article says, 41 + 50, in my math education that = 91 billion. so, how's he wrong?

 

[alang1216]

Obama's are lies of significance.

We will have to agree to disagree.

 

[alang1216]

dude, you said trump lied. he didn't. fking deal with it. you lost.

If I told you that most scientists believed the Earth was flat, would you call me a liar? What if I pointed out that I was talking about the Middle Ages, would you still call me a liar?

 

[jc456]

dude, you said trump lied. he didn't. fking deal with it. you lost.

If I told you that most scientists believed the Earth was flat, would you call me a liar? What if I pointed out that I was talking about the Middle Ages, would you still call me a liar?

dude, you said trump lied. he didn't. fking deal with it. you lost.

babbling nonsense doesn't change that fact.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Obama's are lies of significance.

We will have to agree to disagree.

I couldn't care less if you disagree.....I have noticed that you are only wrong on days ending with the letter 'y.'

 

[alang1216]

"Puerto Rico got 91 Billion Dollars for the hurricane, more money than has ever been gotten for a hurricane before, & all their local politicians do is complain & ask for more money. The pols are grossly incompetent, spend the money foolishly or corruptly, & only take from USA....," Trump tweeted April 2.

Puerto Rico has not received $91 billion
The federal government’s recovery website shows shows $40.7 billion has been allocated (Congress appropriated the spending) through December 2018. Of that, $19.4 billion has been obligated (the government has promised to spend the money) and of that $11.2 billion has been spent. The money comes from various agencies and funds including FEMA, U.S. Housing and Urban Development, the Community Development Fund and the Disaster Relief Fund.

A senior administration official told PolitiFact that Trump arrived at the $91 billion figure by combining the roughly $41 billion already allocated with additional estimated future FEMA costs of $50 billion. (The Washington Post’s Fact Checker wrote that the $50 billion was a high end estimate of what would need to be committed under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act of 1988.)

That means the $50 billion is speculative, said Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense.

"It may be spent, it may not, and some of it will be far into the future," he said.

so dude where is the lie? I'm still waiting? the article says, 41 + 50, in my math education that = 91 billion. so, how's he wrong?

Does the big font help?

 

[alang1216]

I couldn't care less if you disagree.....I have noticed that you are only wrong on days ending with the letter 'y.'

You wound me.