The Disastrous effects of the Industrial Revolution on the Latin peoples

[BlueJay28]

User "Kman" from another website.. asked me if Southern Europe is the more successful region of Europe historically, why is Northern Europe, Britain and North America the superior, more successful region.

This is what I said to him in a response.

1. Southern Europe is still the more successful culture in terms of the Humanities.

2. Technology changed in the Industrial revolution, abilities that Northern Europe did not have, relying more on nature in times gone past... they now have because of Industry and technology and more.

Seafaring was always a haphazard art, at best for northern Europe, and a Frontier at the worst... until the Industrial Revolution and Technology.

3. Southern Europe, having nature working for it... time, age, geography, climate.... they didn't need the industrial revolution anywhere near as much... or so it would be easy for them to believe, or want to believe.. at the time.

BIG mistake.

And now, because Northern Europe has such a huge head start in Industry and modern Technologies, Southern Europe cannot make it up without outside help from either Northern Europe, or the USA.

4. Much simpler times, in bygone eras, are not and never have been indicators for how well one does in more sophisticated and advanced times.

That's why technologically, things are the opposite now, of how they once were.

Technology still has disastrous effects on Latin peoples in the Americas... not so much in Europe Anymore.

 

[boedicca]

How misguided.

I suggest you read: Why Nations Fail

Why Nations Fail The Origins of Power Prosperity and Poverty Daron Acemoglu James Robinson 9780307719225 Amazon.com Books

 

[BlueJay28]

I don't trust 1 reason sources.
They fail for a lot of reasons.

And failure to Adapt is one of them, as I just described.

 

[2aguy]

User "Kman" from another website.. asked me if Southern Europe is the more successful region of Europe historically, why is Northern Europe, Britain and North America the superior, more successful region.

This is what I said to him in a response.

1. Southern Europe is still the more successful culture in terms of the Humanities.

2. Technology changed in the Industrial revolution, abilities that Northern Europe did not have, relying more on nature in times gone past... they now have because of Industry and technology and more.

Seafaring was always a haphazard art, at best for northern Europe, and a Frontier at the worst... until the Industrial Revolution and Technology.

3. Southern Europe, having nature working for it... time, age, geography, climate.... they didn't need the industrial revolution anywhere near as much... or so it would be easy for them to believe, or want to believe.. at the time.

BIG mistake.

And now, because Northern Europe has such a huge head start in Industry and modern Technologies, Southern Europe cannot make it up without outside help from either Northern Europe, or the USA.

4. Much simpler times, in bygone eras, are not and never have been indicators for how well one does in more sophisticated and advanced times.

That's why technologically, things are the opposite now, of how they once were.

Technology still has disastrous effects on Latin peoples in the Americas... not so much in Europe Anymore.

Wrong....technology hasn't been disasterous, corrupt governments and left wing socialism has been a nightmare for Latin America......fix those and things will be fine....

 

[BlueJay28]

corruption and left wing politics is what you get, when people's society is hurting.
Not a cause, but a symptom that keeps the cycle going.

 

[2aguy]

corruption and left wing politics is what you get, when people's society is hurting.
Not a cause, but a symptom.

No...the cause.....embracing socialism, especially when you are trying to climb out of primitive technology levels will doom you to never escaping.....you need capitalism and the rule of law...otherwise you end up like central and south America ...

 

[BlueJay28]

People embrace socialism for a reason.
Just like anything else.

If I gave you $125,000 a year plus Union style benefits like Healthcare, Paid Vacation etc.. would you embrace socialism ? of course not.

If I gave you $7.25 an hour with NO benefits... You would embrace socialism, guaranteed.
lol

 

[Maryland Patriot]

People embrace socialism for a reason.
Just like anything else.

If I gave you $125,000 a year would you embrace socialism ? of course not.

If I gave you $7.25 an hour... You would embrace socialism, guaranteed.
lol

If you gave my family a combined income of 125k per year, I might embrace socialism, we would be broke.

 

[BlueJay28]

Your particular family situation, like its size isn't the issue.
The issue is, that socialism rears its ugly head for its ugly reasons.

125,000 buys just as much for one, as it does the other, as does the minimum wage buy very little.

 

[Pogo]

User "Kman" from another website.. asked me if Southern Europe is the more successful region of Europe historically, why is Northern Europe, Britain and North America the superior, more successful region.

This is what I said to him in a response.

1. Southern Europe is still the more successful culture in terms of the Humanities.

2. Technology changed in the Industrial revolution, abilities that Northern Europe did not have, relying more on nature in times gone past... they now have because of Industry and technology and more.

Seafaring was always a haphazard art, at best for northern Europe, and a Frontier at the worst... until the Industrial Revolution and Technology.

3. Southern Europe, having nature working for it... time, age, geography, climate.... they didn't need the industrial revolution anywhere near as much... or so it would be easy for them to believe, or want to believe.. at the time.

BIG mistake.

And now, because Northern Europe has such a huge head start in Industry and modern Technologies, Southern Europe cannot make it up without outside help from either Northern Europe, or the USA.

4. Much simpler times, in bygone eras, are not and never have been indicators for how well one does in more sophisticated and advanced times.

That's why technologically, things are the opposite now, of how they once were.

Technology still has disastrous effects on Latin peoples in the Americas... not so much in Europe Anymore.

On a cursory read --- your entire premise seems to ass-ume that "industrialization" --- and extending from subsequent posts, "material wealth" --- is inherently and unequivocally a positive.

What if it ain't?

 

[BlueJay28]

It is a positive.
That's what humans are for, its why we have the brain power that is greater than an Orca's muscle power... and a body that is less powerful than any other wild animal larger than rodents.

It makes life easier for humans.... the problem is, is that it makes life easier only for those who embrace it the most and the best.

That is Northern Europe.

Even right here in the USA... life is much easier for people in New York... than it is in Brownsville Texas.