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The Depravity That Israel Faces: Girl Buried Alive Because She Liked Boys!
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So they don't want the girls to like boys, or girls? 
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Girl Buried Alive In Honor Killing In Turkey
A 16-year-old girl was buried alive by relatives in southeastern Turkey in a gruesome honor killing carried out because she reportedly befriended boys, the Anatolia news agency reported Thursday.
Acting on a tip, police discovered the body of the girl, identified only as M.M., in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a 2-meter-deep hole dug under a chicken pen outside her house in Kahta, a town in the southeastern province of Adıyaman, the news agency reported.
The body was found in December, around 40 days after M.M. went missing. She is being identified by her initials because she was under the age of 18. Her father and grandfather are suspected in the murder.
A subsequent postmortem examination revealed that M.M. had a significant amount of soil in her lungs and stomach, indicating that she was buried alive and conscious, forensic experts told the news agency. “The autopsy result is blood-curdling. According to our findings, the girl – who had no bruises on her body and no sign of narcotics or poison in her blood – was alive and fully conscious when she was buried,” one anonymous expert said.
The girl’s father and grandfather have been formally arrested and jailed pending trial over her killing, according to the agency. The father is reported to have said in his testimony that the family was unhappy that M.M. had male friends.
The girl had made a complaint to police about her grandfather two months before she went missing, saying that he beat her because she talked to boys.
TURKEY - Girl buried alive in honor killing in Turkey
Winston Churchill...
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Amazon.com: The River War (9781598184259): Sir Winston S. Churchill: Books
Another day, another Islamic attrocity. Blood curdling is the right description. And, to your own child. I just don't understand how a parent can do this, just imagine the state of mind. And this goes on all the time in Muslim countries. Is there anything they aren't capable of? Certainly, hands down, they are the Gold Medal winners in barbarism.
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So they don't want the girls to like boys, or girls?
Nope, the girls aren't allowed to like any boys, mainly because women in Islamic countries are treated as property, and you can't marry off a girl (and get a rich dowry for her) unless she is unspoiled and not touched by any other man.
Shit.......women aren't even allowed out in public over there unless they are escorted by a male family member.
True story by the way.......................
I was on liberty in Jiddah Saudi Arabia, walking around with some friends, one of whom was an SM1 female who was HOOOOTTTT!!!!! A couple of Saudi guys kept following us around asking how many camels we'd take for her. They started at 20, and kept offering more until it was around 100, then they got the message and left.
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Another day, another Islamic attrocity. Blood curdling is the right description. And, to your own child. I just don't understand how a parent can do this, just imagine the state of mind. And this goes on all the time in Muslim countries. Is there anything they aren't capable of? Certainly, hands down, they are the Gold Medal winners in barbarism.Girl Buried Alive In Honor Killing In Turkey
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkDd1XVSpig]16 Year Old Girl Buried Alive By Father, Grandfather - YouTube[/ame]A 16-year-old girl was buried alive by relatives in southeastern Turkey in a gruesome honor killing carried out because she reportedly befriended boys, the Anatolia news agency reported Thursday.
Acting on a tip, police discovered the body of the girl, identified only as M.M., in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a 2-meter-deep hole dug under a chicken pen outside her house in Kahta, a town in the southeastern province of Adıyaman, the news agency reported.
The body was found in December, around 40 days after M.M. went missing. She is being identified by her initials because she was under the age of 18. Her father and grandfather are suspected in the murder.
A subsequent postmortem examination revealed that M.M. had a significant amount of soil in her lungs and stomach, indicating that she was buried alive and conscious, forensic experts told the news agency. “The autopsy result is blood-curdling. According to our findings, the girl – who had no bruises on her body and no sign of narcotics or poison in her blood – was alive and fully conscious when she was buried,” one anonymous expert said.
The girl’s father and grandfather have been formally arrested and jailed pending trial over her killing, according to the agency. The father is reported to have said in his testimony that the family was unhappy that M.M. had male friends.
The girl had made a complaint to police about her grandfather two months before she went missing, saying that he beat her because she talked to boys.
TURKEY - Girl buried alive in honor killing in Turkey
Winston Churchill...
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Amazon.com: The River War (9781598184259): Sir Winston S. Churchill: Books
Shariah law, the Constitution of islime, specifically avoids punishment for killing children and grandchildren. Sick, but, islime really does love death as normal cultures love life.
Sharia Law Umdat al-Salik wa Uddat al-Nasik
Who Is Subject To Retaliation For Injurious Crimes
Retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.
The following are not subject to retaliation...
A father or mother (or their father and mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring
Reliance of the Traveller - Umdat al-Salik wa 'Uddat al-Nasik - £26.95 : HUbooks, Islamic Book Store | English and Arabic Islamic Books
Girl Buried Alive In Honor Killing In Turkey
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkDd1XVSpig]16 Year Old Girl Buried Alive By Father, Grandfather - YouTube[/ame]A 16-year-old girl was buried alive by relatives in southeastern Turkey in a gruesome honor killing carried out because she reportedly befriended boys, the Anatolia news agency reported Thursday.
Acting on a tip, police discovered the body of the girl, identified only as M.M., in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a 2-meter-deep hole dug under a chicken pen outside her house in Kahta, a town in the southeastern province of Adıyaman, the news agency reported.
The body was found in December, around 40 days after M.M. went missing. She is being identified by her initials because she was under the age of 18. Her father and grandfather are suspected in the murder.
A subsequent postmortem examination revealed that M.M. had a significant amount of soil in her lungs and stomach, indicating that she was buried alive and conscious, forensic experts told the news agency. The autopsy result is blood-curdling. According to our findings, the girl who had no bruises on her body and no sign of narcotics or poison in her blood was alive and fully conscious when she was buried, one anonymous expert said.
The girls father and grandfather have been formally arrested and jailed pending trial over her killing, according to the agency. The father is reported to have said in his testimony that the family was unhappy that M.M. had male friends.
The girl had made a complaint to police about her grandfather two months before she went missing, saying that he beat her because she talked to boys.
TURKEY - Girl buried alive in honor killing in Turkey
Winston Churchill...
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Amazon.com: The River War (9781598184259): Sir Winston S. Churchill: Books
I fully understand the subtext of your posts....all of them....but wonder if you are familiar with the tale of JFK's sister, Rosemary....
....a young girl who was lobotomized at the behest of her family, and lived some 60 years as a virtual 'zombie' out of a fear that you might involve herself with boys so as to hurt the reputation of the family?
"Rosemary was a woman, and there was a dread fear of pregnancy, disease and disgrace," Leamer wrote, adding that Rosemary, whose retardation possibly stemmed from brain damage at birth, had taken to sneaking out of the convent where she was staying at the time.
Doctors told Joe Kennedy that a lobotomy, a medical procedure in which the frontal lobes of a patient's brain are scraped away, would help his daughter."
Why did Rosemary Kennedy undergo a lobotomy at the age of 23?
Seems it's not just Muslims.....
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Girl Buried Alive In Honor Killing In Turkey
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkDd1XVSpig]16 Year Old Girl Buried Alive By Father, Grandfather - YouTube[/ame]A 16-year-old girl was buried alive by relatives in southeastern Turkey in a gruesome honor killing carried out because she reportedly befriended boys, the Anatolia news agency reported Thursday.
Acting on a tip, police discovered the body of the girl, identified only as M.M., in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a 2-meter-deep hole dug under a chicken pen outside her house in Kahta, a town in the southeastern province of Adıyaman, the news agency reported.
The body was found in December, around 40 days after M.M. went missing. She is being identified by her initials because she was under the age of 18. Her father and grandfather are suspected in the murder.
A subsequent postmortem examination revealed that M.M. had a significant amount of soil in her lungs and stomach, indicating that she was buried alive and conscious, forensic experts told the news agency. “The autopsy result is blood-curdling. According to our findings, the girl – who had no bruises on her body and no sign of narcotics or poison in her blood – was alive and fully conscious when she was buried,” one anonymous expert said.
The girl’s father and grandfather have been formally arrested and jailed pending trial over her killing, according to the agency. The father is reported to have said in his testimony that the family was unhappy that M.M. had male friends.
The girl had made a complaint to police about her grandfather two months before she went missing, saying that he beat her because she talked to boys.
TURKEY - Girl buried alive in honor killing in Turkey
Winston Churchill...
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Amazon.com: The River War (9781598184259): Sir Winston S. Churchill: Books
I fully understand the subtext of your posts....all of them....but wonder if you are familiar with the tale of JFK's sister, Rosemary....
....a young girl who was lobotomized at the behest of her family, and lived some 60 years as a virtual 'zombie' out of a fear that you might involve herself with boys so as to hurt the reputation of the family?
"Rosemary was a woman, and there was a dread fear of pregnancy, disease and disgrace," Leamer wrote, adding that Rosemary, whose retardation possibly stemmed from brain damage at birth, had taken to sneaking out of the convent where she was staying at the time.
Doctors told Joe Kennedy that a lobotomy, a medical procedure in which the frontal lobes of a patient's brain are scraped away, would help his daughter."
Why did Rosemary Kennedy undergo a lobotomy at the age of 23?
Seems it's not just Muslims.....
You're not serious in drawing an analogy, right? Askville.com is your source of presidential history?
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....a young girl who was lobotomized at the behest of her family, and lived some 60 years as a virtual 'zombie' out of a fear that you might involve herself with boys so as to hurt the reputation of the family?
another grassy knoll Kennedy quack.....
~S~
Girl Buried Alive In Honor Killing In Turkey
16 Year Old Girl Buried Alive By Father, Grandfather - YouTube
Winston Churchill...
I fully understand the subtext of your posts....all of them....but wonder if you are familiar with the tale of JFK's sister, Rosemary....
....a young girl who was lobotomized at the behest of her family, and lived some 60 years as a virtual 'zombie' out of a fear that you might involve herself with boys so as to hurt the reputation of the family?
"Rosemary was a woman, and there was a dread fear of pregnancy, disease and disgrace," Leamer wrote, adding that Rosemary, whose retardation possibly stemmed from brain damage at birth, had taken to sneaking out of the convent where she was staying at the time.
Doctors told Joe Kennedy that a lobotomy, a medical procedure in which the frontal lobes of a patient's brain are scraped away, would help his daughter."
Why did Rosemary Kennedy undergo a lobotomy at the age of 23?
Seems it's not just Muslims.....
You're not serious in drawing an analogy, right? Askville.com is your source of presidential history?
1. Yes...there is a similarity.
2. The story of Rosemary Kennedy is well known.
"One of the doctors who knew the truth was [Dr. Brown], ... executive director of the President's Panel on Mental Retardation," Kessler writes. "According to Dr. Brown, the fact that Rosemary could do arithmetic meant that her IQ was well above 75, the cutoff used by most states for purposes of classification in schools to define mental retardation." At the age of nine, she did problems like 428 × 32 = 13696, 3924 / 6 = 654.[49] Kessler quotes Dr. Brown, "If she did division and multiplication, she was over an IQ of 75. She was not mentally retarded. ... It could be she had an IQ of 90 in a family where everyone was 130, so it looked like retardation, but she did not fall into IQ 75 and below, which is the definition of mental retardation. ... There is no way I can picture her at less than a 90 IQ, but in that family, 90 would be considered retarded."
Kessler adds that in Dr. Brown's opinion, the family's treatment of Rosemary led to her mental illness. "I think it's likely she was somewhat slower than the others. Then she was treated as if she was retarded. Then it becomes reactive depression, including rages and loss of control. That is mental illness. ... The reason she got depressed was that she reacted to being treated as a lesser member of the family." While the children tried to include her in their activities, "given the highly competitive environment of the Kennedy family, they could not help but to communicate to her that she was not up to their standards." The fact that Joe banished Rosemary to live with his aide demonstrated his rejection of her. "The stigma of mental illness in those days was like tuberculosis or cancer or worse. Mental retardation is more benignly not your fault...."
Rosemary Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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I fully understand the subtext of your posts....all of them....but wonder if you are familiar with the tale of JFK's sister, Rosemary....
....a young girl who was lobotomized at the behest of her family, and lived some 60 years as a virtual 'zombie' out of a fear that you might involve herself with boys so as to hurt the reputation of the family?
"Rosemary was a woman, and there was a dread fear of pregnancy, disease and disgrace," Leamer wrote, adding that Rosemary, whose retardation possibly stemmed from brain damage at birth, had taken to sneaking out of the convent where she was staying at the time.
Doctors told Joe Kennedy that a lobotomy, a medical procedure in which the frontal lobes of a patient's brain are scraped away, would help his daughter."
Why did Rosemary Kennedy undergo a lobotomy at the age of 23?
Seems it's not just Muslims.....
You're not serious in drawing an analogy, right? Askville.com is your source of presidential history?
1. Yes...there is a similarity.
2. The story of Rosemary Kennedy is well known.
"One of the doctors who knew the truth was [Dr. Brown], ... executive director of the President's Panel on Mental Retardation," Kessler writes. "According to Dr. Brown, the fact that Rosemary could do arithmetic meant that her IQ was well above 75, the cutoff used by most states for purposes of classification in schools to define mental retardation." At the age of nine, she did problems like 428 × 32 = 13696, 3924 / 6 = 654.[49] Kessler quotes Dr. Brown, "If she did division and multiplication, she was over an IQ of 75. She was not mentally retarded. ... It could be she had an IQ of 90 in a family where everyone was 130, so it looked like retardation, but she did not fall into IQ 75 and below, which is the definition of mental retardation. ... There is no way I can picture her at less than a 90 IQ, but in that family, 90 would be considered retarded."
Kessler adds that in Dr. Brown's opinion, the family's treatment of Rosemary led to her mental illness. "I think it's likely she was somewhat slower than the others. Then she was treated as if she was retarded. Then it becomes reactive depression, including rages and loss of control. That is mental illness. ... The reason she got depressed was that she reacted to being treated as a lesser member of the family." While the children tried to include her in their activities, "given the highly competitive environment of the Kennedy family, they could not help but to communicate to her that she was not up to their standards." The fact that Joe banished Rosemary to live with his aide demonstrated his rejection of her. "The stigma of mental illness in those days was like tuberculosis or cancer or worse. Mental retardation is more benignly not your fault...."
Rosemary Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
First askville.com, now wikipedia? A trained monkey can write in wiki. Sorry, but, seriously elevate your scholarship and logic.
....a young girl who was lobotomized at the behest of her family, and lived some 60 years as a virtual 'zombie' out of a fear that you might involve herself with boys so as to hurt the reputation of the family?
another grassy knoll Kennedy quack.....
~S~
1. The following are excerpts from "The Kennedy Men: Three Generations of Sex, Scandal, and Secrets" by Nellie Bly:
"Joe's oldest daughter, Rosemary, was considered shy and mentally limited - symptoms of what many suspect was dyslexia. For years the family had dealt with the problem by sending her away to various special schools and convents. By age 21 she had deteriorated greatly, giving way to tantrums, rages and violent behavior. Rosemary was beginning to understand that she would never measure up to her closest siblings, and the resulting frustration led to physical fights and, worse, long absences at night when she would be wandering the streets.
"Increasingly, Rosemary was seen as a liability to the family's political ambitions, and in 1942, Joe moved to deal with the problem. Without telling anyone, not ever her mother, he arranged for his oldest daughter to have a prefrontal lobotomy at St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Washington, D.C. The experimental operation was believed to work wonders with people who had emotional problems. In Rosemary's case it was a disaster and left her permanently disabled, paralyzed on one side, incontinent and unable to speak coherently. She was never allowed to return home, but instead was spirited away to St. Coletta's School in Wisconsin.
"Rosemary's fate and how it was handled was the ultimate Kennedy deception. As late as 1958 the family was maintaining the fiction that Rosemary had become a quasi nun in Wisconsin, content to renounce the glamorous world of her siblings to teach less fortunate children. Today the official family version is that she was born retarded, and that only her mother's Herculean efforts had made it possible for her to appear normal."
2. ''very promiscuous, two characteristics that did not go well together ... Surprisingly during its height, a lobotomy was a common suggestion when it ... way to control his daughter and keep his prestige, Joe Kennedy sought the help of a ...
Often Rosemary would sneak out and embark on act 'the priest says not to do...."
" The Writer's Way," by Jack Rawlins, Stephen Metzger
3. "The kennedy males were sexually promiscuous; their parents demanded a degree of discretion, but no more than that. When their eldest daughter was deemed an embarrassment due to her sexual activity, her parents had her lobotomized. The result was worse than death. But her brothers' political careers were no longer in jeopardy due to their having a whore for a sister."
RoseMary Kennedy was LOBOTOMIZED for being Promiscuous LIKE HER BROTHERS // Current TV
So....who's the quack?
Appears you don't know what you're talking about...huh?
You're not serious in drawing an analogy, right? Askville.com is your source of presidential history?
1. Yes...there is a similarity.
2. The story of Rosemary Kennedy is well known.
"One of the doctors who knew the truth was [Dr. Brown], ... executive director of the President's Panel on Mental Retardation," Kessler writes. "According to Dr. Brown, the fact that Rosemary could do arithmetic meant that her IQ was well above 75, the cutoff used by most states for purposes of classification in schools to define mental retardation." At the age of nine, she did problems like 428 × 32 = 13696, 3924 / 6 = 654.[49] Kessler quotes Dr. Brown, "If she did division and multiplication, she was over an IQ of 75. She was not mentally retarded. ... It could be she had an IQ of 90 in a family where everyone was 130, so it looked like retardation, but she did not fall into IQ 75 and below, which is the definition of mental retardation. ... There is no way I can picture her at less than a 90 IQ, but in that family, 90 would be considered retarded."
Kessler adds that in Dr. Brown's opinion, the family's treatment of Rosemary led to her mental illness. "I think it's likely she was somewhat slower than the others. Then she was treated as if she was retarded. Then it becomes reactive depression, including rages and loss of control. That is mental illness. ... The reason she got depressed was that she reacted to being treated as a lesser member of the family." While the children tried to include her in their activities, "given the highly competitive environment of the Kennedy family, they could not help but to communicate to her that she was not up to their standards." The fact that Joe banished Rosemary to live with his aide demonstrated his rejection of her. "The stigma of mental illness in those days was like tuberculosis or cancer or worse. Mental retardation is more benignly not your fault...."
Rosemary Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
First askville.com, now wikipedia? A trained monkey can write in wiki. Sorry, but, seriously elevate your scholarship and logic.
Do your own research....then you can apologize.
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1. Yes...there is a similarity.
2. The story of Rosemary Kennedy is well known.
"One of the doctors who knew the truth was [Dr. Brown], ... executive director of the President's Panel on Mental Retardation," Kessler writes. "According to Dr. Brown, the fact that Rosemary could do arithmetic meant that her IQ was well above 75, the cutoff used by most states for purposes of classification in schools to define mental retardation." At the age of nine, she did problems like 428 × 32 = 13696, 3924 / 6 = 654.[49] Kessler quotes Dr. Brown, "If she did division and multiplication, she was over an IQ of 75. She was not mentally retarded. ... It could be she had an IQ of 90 in a family where everyone was 130, so it looked like retardation, but she did not fall into IQ 75 and below, which is the definition of mental retardation. ... There is no way I can picture her at less than a 90 IQ, but in that family, 90 would be considered retarded."
Kessler adds that in Dr. Brown's opinion, the family's treatment of Rosemary led to her mental illness. "I think it's likely she was somewhat slower than the others. Then she was treated as if she was retarded. Then it becomes reactive depression, including rages and loss of control. That is mental illness. ... The reason she got depressed was that she reacted to being treated as a lesser member of the family." While the children tried to include her in their activities, "given the highly competitive environment of the Kennedy family, they could not help but to communicate to her that she was not up to their standards." The fact that Joe banished Rosemary to live with his aide demonstrated his rejection of her. "The stigma of mental illness in those days was like tuberculosis or cancer or worse. Mental retardation is more benignly not your fault...."
Rosemary Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
First askville.com, now wikipedia? A trained monkey can write in wiki. Sorry, but, seriously elevate your scholarship and logic.
Do your own research....then you can apologize.
Rosemary Kennedy lived her life out until she passed away at nearly age 90. A lobotomy, which was lawful, was performed as such a procedure was medically advised at that time for the behavioral problems she had. Lobotomies are performed today as a protocol for severe cases of clinical depression and other psychiatric disorders.
OTOH, the poor Turkish Muslima child was perfectly healthy and buried alive at the age of 16 merely for liking boys. Shariah law essentially sanctions such depraved conduct
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Even if, that's one story. This stuff goes on all the time in Muslim countries, and, Muslim communities in the West.I fully understand the subtext of your posts....all of them....but wonder if you are familiar with the tale of JFK's sister, Rosemary....
....a young girl who was lobotomized at the behest of her family, and lived some 60 years as a virtual 'zombie' out of a fear that you might involve herself with boys so as to hurt the reputation of the family?
"Rosemary was a woman, and there was a dread fear of pregnancy, disease and disgrace," Leamer wrote, adding that Rosemary, whose retardation possibly stemmed from brain damage at birth, had taken to sneaking out of the convent where she was staying at the time.
Doctors told Joe Kennedy that a lobotomy, a medical procedure in which the frontal lobes of a patient's brain are scraped away, would help his daughter."
Why did Rosemary Kennedy undergo a lobotomy at the age of 23?
Seems it's not just Muslims.....
You're not serious in drawing an analogy, right? Askville.com is your source of presidential history?
1. Yes...there is a similarity.
2. The story of Rosemary Kennedy is well known.
"One of the doctors who knew the truth was [Dr. Brown], ... executive director of the President's Panel on Mental Retardation," Kessler writes. "According to Dr. Brown, the fact that Rosemary could do arithmetic meant that her IQ was well above 75, the cutoff used by most states for purposes of classification in schools to define mental retardation." At the age of nine, she did problems like 428 × 32 = 13696, 3924 / 6 = 654.[49] Kessler quotes Dr. Brown, "If she did division and multiplication, she was over an IQ of 75. She was not mentally retarded. ... It could be she had an IQ of 90 in a family where everyone was 130, so it looked like retardation, but she did not fall into IQ 75 and below, which is the definition of mental retardation. ... There is no way I can picture her at less than a 90 IQ, but in that family, 90 would be considered retarded."
Kessler adds that in Dr. Brown's opinion, the family's treatment of Rosemary led to her mental illness. "I think it's likely she was somewhat slower than the others. Then she was treated as if she was retarded. Then it becomes reactive depression, including rages and loss of control. That is mental illness. ... The reason she got depressed was that she reacted to being treated as a lesser member of the family." While the children tried to include her in their activities, "given the highly competitive environment of the Kennedy family, they could not help but to communicate to her that she was not up to their standards." The fact that Joe banished Rosemary to live with his aide demonstrated his rejection of her. "The stigma of mental illness in those days was like tuberculosis or cancer or worse. Mental retardation is more benignly not your fault...."
Rosemary Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
First askville.com, now wikipedia? A trained monkey can write in wiki. Sorry, but, seriously elevate your scholarship and logic.
Do your own research....then you can apologize.
Rosemary Kennedy lived her life out until she passed away at nearly age 90. A lobotomy, which was lawful, was performed as such a procedure was medically advised at that time for the behavioral problems she had. Lobotomies are performed today as a protocol for severe cases of clinical depression and other psychiatric disorders.
OTOH, the poor Turkish Muslima child was perfectly healthy and buried alive at the age of 16 merely for liking boys. Shariah law essentially sanctions such demonic behavior
I seem to have missed the 'I'm sorry ....you were correct."
Again?
Even if, that's one story. This stuff goes on all the time in Muslim countries, and, Muslim communities in the West.You're not serious in drawing an analogy, right? Askville.com is your source of presidential history?
1. Yes...there is a similarity.
2. The story of Rosemary Kennedy is well known.
"One of the doctors who knew the truth was [Dr. Brown], ... executive director of the President's Panel on Mental Retardation," Kessler writes. "According to Dr. Brown, the fact that Rosemary could do arithmetic meant that her IQ was well above 75, the cutoff used by most states for purposes of classification in schools to define mental retardation." At the age of nine, she did problems like 428 × 32 = 13696, 3924 / 6 = 654.[49] Kessler quotes Dr. Brown, "If she did division and multiplication, she was over an IQ of 75. She was not mentally retarded. ... It could be she had an IQ of 90 in a family where everyone was 130, so it looked like retardation, but she did not fall into IQ 75 and below, which is the definition of mental retardation. ... There is no way I can picture her at less than a 90 IQ, but in that family, 90 would be considered retarded."
Kessler adds that in Dr. Brown's opinion, the family's treatment of Rosemary led to her mental illness. "I think it's likely she was somewhat slower than the others. Then she was treated as if she was retarded. Then it becomes reactive depression, including rages and loss of control. That is mental illness. ... The reason she got depressed was that she reacted to being treated as a lesser member of the family." While the children tried to include her in their activities, "given the highly competitive environment of the Kennedy family, they could not help but to communicate to her that she was not up to their standards." The fact that Joe banished Rosemary to live with his aide demonstrated his rejection of her. "The stigma of mental illness in those days was like tuberculosis or cancer or worse. Mental retardation is more benignly not your fault...."
Rosemary Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
My point is not that the OP is not a horror.....but that the idea of 'honor' and 'reputation' can be behind horrors of all kinds....and among all peoples.
Homo homini lupus.
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Even if, that's one story. This stuff goes on all the time in Muslim countries, and, Muslim communities in the West.1. Yes...there is a similarity.
2. The story of Rosemary Kennedy is well known.
"One of the doctors who knew the truth was [Dr. Brown], ... executive director of the President's Panel on Mental Retardation," Kessler writes. "According to Dr. Brown, the fact that Rosemary could do arithmetic meant that her IQ was well above 75, the cutoff used by most states for purposes of classification in schools to define mental retardation." At the age of nine, she did problems like 428 × 32 = 13696, 3924 / 6 = 654.[49] Kessler quotes Dr. Brown, "If she did division and multiplication, she was over an IQ of 75. She was not mentally retarded. ... It could be she had an IQ of 90 in a family where everyone was 130, so it looked like retardation, but she did not fall into IQ 75 and below, which is the definition of mental retardation. ... There is no way I can picture her at less than a 90 IQ, but in that family, 90 would be considered retarded."
Kessler adds that in Dr. Brown's opinion, the family's treatment of Rosemary led to her mental illness. "I think it's likely she was somewhat slower than the others. Then she was treated as if she was retarded. Then it becomes reactive depression, including rages and loss of control. That is mental illness. ... The reason she got depressed was that she reacted to being treated as a lesser member of the family." While the children tried to include her in their activities, "given the highly competitive environment of the Kennedy family, they could not help but to communicate to her that she was not up to their standards." The fact that Joe banished Rosemary to live with his aide demonstrated his rejection of her. "The stigma of mental illness in those days was like tuberculosis or cancer or worse. Mental retardation is more benignly not your fault...."
Rosemary Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
My point is not that the OP is not a horror.....but that the idea of 'honor' and 'reputation' can be behind horrors of all kinds....and among all peoples.
Homo homini lupus.
The Kennedys did not murder Rosemary. She lived her life out to almost 90 years of age. A lobotomy was performed, according to Kennedy sources, as it was the prescribed protocol at the time for her behavioral problems, as lobotomies are today.
You need to give further thought to the matter.
Even if, that's one story. This stuff goes on all the time in Muslim countries, and, Muslim communities in the West.
My point is not that the OP is not a horror.....but that the idea of 'honor' and 'reputation' can be behind horrors of all kinds....and among all peoples.
Homo homini lupus.
The Kennedys did not murder Rosemary. She lived her life out to almost 90 years of age. A lobotomy was performed, according to Kennedy sources, as it was the prescribed protocol at the time for her behavioral problems, as lobotomies are today.
You need to give further thought to the matter.
"... lobotomies, resulting in a severe mental impairment that left her paralysed, incoherent, and incontinent."
RoseMary Kennedy was LOBOTOMIZED for being Promiscuous LIKE HER BROTHERS // Current TV
From age 23 to her death at 86.
You're not trivializing that, are you?
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