The death of Thanksgiving?

[Pogo]

I don't know what thread you've been reading but I'm not aware of any denigration of hard work in here, let alone welfare recipients or forcing anybody to do anything. Some of us are just social conservatives. Deal with it.

But I am aware you're trying desperately to inject it. Thank you Princess Buzzkill.

I'm curious Pogo, what do you figure, there will be 2-300 people on staff to serve our Royal master his holiday feast?

While it is clearly wrong of Walmart to have employees work on Thanksgiving, I'm sure it is holy and good to have hundreds of people working on Thanksgiving to wait on Obama hand and foot, yes?

Obama Celebrates Thanksgiving At White House With Family

There is a strawman limit per post, Pothead. You know, like a bridge weight limit?

Nobody says it's "wrong" for Mal-Wart to force employees to work on a national holiday, tearing them away from their families under threat of economic coercion. Don't know where you get that idea.

We do however note what their values are in doing that, and the likely effect. "Wrong" is in the eye of the beholder.

Funny thing about that eye -- even though 94% of us agree with the thread premise, the 6% tirelessly try to beat down the idea that we should entertain that thought.

Now as for the WH staff, I have no idea what that entails but I'm sure it carries some kind of status to work there, regardless who the POTUS is. I'll bet it's slightly more interesting than, say, waiting in a line at Mal-Wart to buy a blender.

 

[koshergrl]

I don't know what thread you've been reading but I'm not aware of any denigration of hard work in here, let alone welfare recipients or forcing anybody to do anything. Some of us are just social conservatives. Deal with it.

But I am aware you're trying desperately to inject it. Thank you Princess Buzzkill.

I'm curious Pogo, what do you figure, there will be 2-300 people on staff to serve our Royal master his holiday feast?

While it is clearly wrong of Walmart to have employees work on Thanksgiving, I'm sure it is holy and good to have hundreds of people working on Thanksgiving to wait on Obama hand and foot, yes?

Obama Celebrates Thanksgiving At White House With Family

Stupid point! Do ya suppose Nancy microwaved a turkey Hot Pocket for Ronny?

Yes, well, Ronnie wasn't a socialist, who rose to power and wealth by demonizing the powerful and wealthy.

 

[Pogo]

Well my good friend who does yeoman's work with the poor, volunteers her time to help folks in a nursing home, and one night a week works with our AWANA kids to ensure they are getting a good start in life, and who loves Thanksgiving and is planning a big family dinner, but who VOLUNTEERED for a shift at Wal-mart on Thanksgiving Day to get the double pay they are offering and that she needs---she would be really impressed that you consider that she is engaged in an 'endless pursuit of profit.'

I suppose you would think she was more noble if she took government assistance to put together that Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving dinner.

God help us if all Americans ever take the approach that they don't need to pursue profits but rather will just hang it up and let the rest of us support them.

Who died and made some God with the moral justification to judge those who are engaged in making an honorable living and earning what they have and paying their own way? There is a world of difference in choosing how you will keep Thanksgiving and presuming to judge others who choose to do it differently.

ARRRRGH!!! Logic like you are using is just so frustrating, even infuriating to me.

Are you genuinely unaware that by "endless pursuit of profit" I refer to the profiteers, not the wage earners?

Look, it really isn't that complex. It's a question of values: is it more important for Wally to join Beaver, Ward and June at the table, or is it more important for Wal-Mart to make yet another million bucks. That's it in a nutshell. Not rocket surgery. Nothing to do with AWANA or hospitals or volunteering or anything else.

Stop trying to make the topic into something it isn't. Koshergrrrr is already on top of that. If you take away her employment she'll have to go on welfare and we'll never hear the end of it.

And why is the wage earner more noble when he or she works on a holiday than is the business owner who gives him/her the opportunity to do so? That is why I could never be a leftist. I don't see the business owners as evil, merciless, greedy, hateful merchants of profit. I see them as essential to a free society and necessary for that society to function and prosper. And if their extra profits allow them to offer their people extra pay or opportunity or more in wages and/or benefits, who are you to accuse them of being 'endless pursuers of profit?' (Which you clearly meant as a perjorative term.) God help us all if they ever stop pursueing profits because we'll become a miserable third world country really fast.

Thanks to a corrupt, lying, and unethical government, most folks working in retail greatly covet more hours, not more time off. Focus your attention there and not on the honest business owner who is running a business that provides opportunity and wages to people who choose to work for him.

Foxy Foxy Foxy, why does it always have to morph into the political? This is not a political thread. Sheesh, can we not give it a rest for one thread?

A vocal 5.88% -- arguing just to argue. SMH...

 

[Uncensored2008]

We always get either a Willie Bird or a Diestel Farms turkey. I have a friend who has converted to Heritage Turkeys, but they are outrageously expensive, imo.

I just looked through the grocery store birds, and they all say they are hormone free as well.

I think that is all from an era that has passed. The public reacted against doped up birds. and the market adjusted.

 

[Pogo]

Stupid point! Do ya suppose Nancy microwaved a turkey Hot Pocket for Ronny?

Stupid point because Obama is god, and the 300 people taken away from their families should rejoice at the chance to serve god?

Or are you just caught up in the hypocrisy of the whole thing.

Remember, it is YOU and the other leftists claiming that it is some sort of moral failing for Walmart to expect people to work...

And I'll bet that if they were union, the story would be entirely different....

This whole thread is a pile of shit, the left spewing hate at Walmart for not shoring up the failing and corrupt unions.

You're the one who thinks O'bama is a god, but then you think everybody else is Pol Pot, so consider the source.

But say Pothead...
Don't those 300 people (whatever the number) do the same job every Thanksgiving, regardless who the POTUS is?

 

[koshergrl]

Stupid point! Do ya suppose Nancy microwaved a turkey Hot Pocket for Ronny?

Stupid point because Obama is god, and the 300 people taken away from their families should rejoice at the chance to serve god?

Or are you just caught up in the hypocrisy of the whole thing.

Remember, it is YOU and the other leftists claiming that it is some sort of moral failing for Walmart to expect people to work...

And I'll bet that if they were union, the story would be entirely different....

This whole thread is a pile of shit, the left spewing hate at Walmart for not shoring up the failing and corrupt unions.

You're the one who thinks O'bama is a god, but then you think everybody else is Pol Pot, so consider the source.

But say Pothead...
Don't those 300 people (whatever the number) do the same job every Thanksgiving, regardless who the POTUS is?

 

[Pogo]

We always get either a Willie Bird or a Diestel Farms turkey. I have a friend who has converted to Heritage Turkeys, but they are outrageously expensive, imo.

I just looked through the grocery store birds, and they all say they are hormone free as well.

I think that is all from an era that has passed. The public reacted against doped up birds. and the market adjusted.

Actually, hormones are prohibited by FDA in poultry and pork. The "market adjusted" to the law.

Oh the horror!! Statism! How dare they protect me from my right to steroid poisoning!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Foxy Foxy Foxy, why does it always have to morph into the political? This is not a political thread. Sheesh, can we not give it a rest for one thread?

A vocal 5.88% -- arguing just to argue. SMH...

It's always political.

You're attacking Walmart purely because the unions want them attacked. You have no RATIONAL basis for your arguments - only political.

 

[koshergrl]

He's a lemming.

 

[Pogo]

Foxy Foxy Foxy, why does it always have to morph into the political? This is not a political thread. Sheesh, can we not give it a rest for one thread?

A vocal 5.88% -- arguing just to argue. SMH...

It's always political.

You're attacking Walmart purely because the unions want them attacked. You have no RATIONAL basis for your arguments - only political.

I have no connection with unions whatsoever, and I haven't "attacked" Mal-Wart. You have no RATIONAL basis for that post.

Or as we call it on USMB, "Tuesday".

 

[BullKurtz]

Poll now reads 48-3 against shopping on T-Day.

 

[Pogo]

Poll now reads 48-3 against shopping on T-Day.

Sure does. You'd never know it from the contrarian demagoguery in here though.

That says sump'm.

 

[Nosmo King]

Stupid point! Do ya suppose Nancy microwaved a turkey Hot Pocket for Ronny?

Stupid point because Obama is god, and the 300 people taken away from their families should rejoice at the chance to serve god?

Or are you just caught up in the hypocrisy of the whole thing.

Remember, it is YOU and the other leftists claiming that it is some sort of moral failing for Walmart to expect people to work...

And I'll bet that if they were union, the story would be entirely different....

This whole thread is a pile of shit, the left spewing hate at Walmart for not shoring up the failing and corrupt unions.

Oh dear God!

Nowhere did I call for stronger labor unions. Nowhere did I mention Wal*Mart. And I am a Liberal calling for stronger families.

With all that, you deduced that this thread is a left wing hate fest spewing anti Wal*Mart propaganda.

But the good news is, if you are typical of the contemporary American Conservative, Liberalism is about to sweep this country like no time since 1934! If Conservatives demonstrate the same low level of logical thinking as you, the argument for Liberalism should be simpler to make. We won't have to use big words and sense, just figure out what Pavlovian response makes folks of your ilk apoplectic and turn up the volume.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Actually, hormones are prohibited by FDA in poultry and pork. The "market adjusted" to the law.

Actually, the marked stopped using them in the 40's - and the FDA outlawed them in the 80's.

Try again, sporky...

Poultry farming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Uncensored2008]

I have no connection with unions whatsoever, and I haven't "attacked" Mal-Wart. You have no RATIONAL basis for that post.

Or as we call it on USMB, "Tuesday".

Yawn.

The only argument you have made is that Walmart should not be open on Thanksgiving.

Blow all the smoke you like, the facts remain the same....

 

[Truthseeker420]

My family wants to have Thanksgiving dinner on Friday. WTF? It's tradition to eat turkey and watch the Cowboys kick ass.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Poll now reads 48-3 against shopping on T-Day.

Guess WallyWorld will think again about opening on Thanksgiving next year...

IF the poll is accurate, that is...

 

[Foxfyre]

Poll now reads 48-3 against shopping on T-Day.

Sure does. You'd never know it from the contrarian demagoguery in here though.

That says sump'm.

What it says is that a lot of us posting on the thread did not participate in the poll because neither of the two options offered reflect what we think or believe.

 

[Pogo]

Actually, hormones are prohibited by FDA in poultry and pork. The "market adjusted" to the law.

Actually, the marked stopped using them in the 40's - and the FDA outlawed them in the 80's.

Try again, sporky...

Poultry farming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The '80s... the '50s... what's the difference, right...

>> The only hormone that was ever used in any quantity on poultry (DES) was banned in 1959, and everyone but a few die-hard farmers had given up hormones by then, anyway. Hormones are now illegal in poultry and eggs<<

--- your own link there, Pothead.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Sure does. You'd never know it from the contrarian demagoguery in here though.

That says sump'm.

The question is if we would go shopping, not whether it should be allowed.

I won't go shopping, that's for damned sure. But if others want to, knock yourself out.