The "Conservative" lie machine.

[Old Rocks]

How many times has it been posted in this forum that California has been releasing water just to preserve some bait fish, or smelt? Well, I suppose this makes said "Conservatives" happy. There is too little water left at the moment to help even the fish. So the state is going to spend a lot more money to save these smelt, spelled 'Salmon".

Salmon May Be Trucked To Sea If California Drought Continues

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Wildlife officials said they will consider a plan to move millions of hatchery-raised salmon by tanker trucks to the ocean if the Sacramento River and its tributaries prove inhospitable due to the drought.

Officials fear the rivers could become too shallow and warm, affecting food supply and making salmon easier to catch by predators, the Sacramento Bee reported (In severe drought plan, California salmon may be moved by truck - Our Region - The Sacramento Bee).

State and federal officials said Monday they were watching conditions and would be ready to implement the plan next month, barring heavy rains.

Salmon are usually released in April and May from the Coleman National Fish Hatchery on Battle Creek, a tributary of the river.

The hatchery is the largest in the state, producing about 12 million fall-run Chinook salmon.

Such fish are key to West Coast salmon populations, producing most of the wild-caught salmon found in California markets and restaurants. The fish are also key to California's robust salmon sport fishing industry.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

How many times has it been posted in this forum that California has been releasing water just to preserve some bait fish, or smelt? Well, I suppose this makes said "Conservatives" happy. There is too little water left at the moment to help even the fish. So the state is going to spend a lot more money to save these smelt, spelled 'Salmon".

Because it is true.

In 2007, federal judge Oliver Wanger imposed limits on the amount of water pumped from the San Joachin-Sacramento River delta to farms in California's Central Valley in order to protect a two-inch endangered fish called the Delta Smelt. As a result, several hundred thousand acres of farmland on the west side of the Central Valley now lie fallow, and many thousands of jobs have been lost.

Delta Smelt v. Central Valley Farmers: The Battle Continues - Hit & Run : Reason.com

 

[Truthmatters]

the right doesn't understand science.

 

[bedowin62]

the right doesn't understand science.

the Left is coming off the rails. November is going to be great for Republicans

 

[skookerasbil]

What?

 

[ScienceRocks]

the right doesn't understand science.

the Left is coming off the rails. November is going to be great for Republicans

And we can expect a defunding of all science programs. How is that pro-science. How about just a defunding of the green energy? This is what you'd expect if the republicans didn't hate science.

 

[flacaltenn]

How many times has it been posted in this forum that California has been releasing water just to preserve some bait fish, or smelt? Well, I suppose this makes said "Conservatives" happy. There is too little water left at the moment to help even the fish. So the state is going to spend a lot more money to save these smelt, spelled 'Salmon".

Salmon May Be Trucked To Sea If California Drought Continues

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Wildlife officials said they will consider a plan to move millions of hatchery-raised salmon by tanker trucks to the ocean if the Sacramento River and its tributaries prove inhospitable due to the drought.

Officials fear the rivers could become too shallow and warm, affecting food supply and making salmon easier to catch by predators, the Sacramento Bee reported (In severe drought plan, California salmon may be moved by truck - Our Region - The Sacramento Bee).

State and federal officials said Monday they were watching conditions and would be ready to implement the plan next month, barring heavy rains.

Salmon are usually released in April and May from the Coleman National Fish Hatchery on Battle Creek, a tributary of the river.

The hatchery is the largest in the state, producing about 12 million fall-run Chinook salmon.

Such fish are key to West Coast salmon populations, producing most of the wild-caught salmon found in California markets and restaurants. The fish are also key to California's robust salmon sport fishing industry.

I saw this also and was gonna post it because the Fish/Game documents that come with the story are really interesting to read.
Trucking them down to the delta causes high returning losses because the fish don't learn the Garmin mapping as well.. They tend to get lost as returning adults.

But GoldiRocks -- there's no real CONSERVATIVE lie here. Californians are lying to themselves. Letting themselves be boggered by ALL kinds of special interests. The amount spent on advocacy advertising in Cali exceeds the GDP of about 60 countries.

What comes to MY MIND is --- Tomorrow --- They should cancel the "Fast Choo CHoo to Nowhere" and start working on a fuew huge desalinization plants. Powered by all the solar and wind that they want...

 

[skookerasbil]

Like 189 people might care about this.

 

[Mr. H.]

the right doesn't understand science.

Why is it only the Left that denies the science and engineering behind hydraulic fracturing?
Why is it only the Left that spreads lies and propaganda about this subject?
Why is it only the Left that insists hydraulic fracturing pollutes ground water?

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Seems the OP took a powder, after getting called on his BS.

 

[Stephanie]

omg, fish are going to trucked to the seas

only some wacko environments could come up that stupidity

in their eyes, it's fish over human beings

and then there's the oldcrustyrock and his accusations on how we are thrilled to see California suffering

You know what, THEY ELECTED THE GOVERNMENT they have, none of us here have a damn to do with it

 

[CrusaderFrank]

the right doesn't understand science.

the Left is coming off the rails. November is going to be great for Republicans

And we can expect a defunding of all science programs. How is that pro-science. How about just a defunding of the green energy? This is what you'd expect if the republicans didn't hate science.

You mean like how Obama killed our manned space program?

You mean like how Clinton killed the SuperConducting SuperColloider?

 

[Abraham3]

How many times has it been posted in this forum that California has been releasing water just to preserve some bait fish, or smelt? Well, I suppose this makes said "Conservatives" happy. There is too little water left at the moment to help even the fish. So the state is going to spend a lot more money to save these smelt, spelled 'Salmon".

Because it is true.

In 2007, federal judge Oliver Wanger imposed limits on the amount of water pumped from the San Joachin-Sacramento River delta to farms in California's Central Valley in order to protect a two-inch endangered fish called the Delta Smelt. As a result, several hundred thousand acres of farmland on the west side of the Central Valley now lie fallow, and many thousands of jobs have been lost.

Delta Smelt v. Central Valley Farmers: The Battle Continues - Hit & Run : Reason.com

The judge is only following the dictates of the law. If you think it's wrong, complain to the California legislature. But, of course, it's a democracy. So complain to the people of the state of California who elected them.

 

[AntiParty]

the right doesn't understand science.

the Left is coming off the rails. November is going to be great for Republicans

I'm curious why. The left has it's bad arguments but the Right has absolutely taken the cake on bad arguments and bad stance. The Right actually shut down our government and was proud of it.

I tend to think that the Right COULD hold the better debate but is "coming off the rails" due to exposing itself as a "Big government hiding under a government hating sheeps cloth"

 

[Vigilante]

NASA is now an OUTREACH PROGRAM for muslims!

A few weeks after killing the U.S.A.’s world-famous moon-mission program, President Obama has ordered the space agency that operates it to focus on reaching out to Muslim countries.

Indeed the National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s (NASA) mission will shift from space exploration to Muslim diplomacy, as per the commander-in-chief’s orders. When Obama announced earlier this month that he would slash NASA’s $100 billion plan to return astronauts to the moon, he didn’t mention where some of the resources would be directed.

 

[JBvM]

the right doesn't understand science.

Why is it only the Left that denies the science and engineering behind hydraulic fracturing?
Why is it only the Left that spreads lies and propaganda about this subject?
Why is it only the Left that insists hydraulic fracturing pollutes ground water?

LOL

 

[SSDD]

the right doesn't understand science.

the Left is coming off the rails. November is going to be great for Republicans

And we can expect a defunding of all science programs. How is that pro-science. How about just a defunding of the green energy? This is what you'd expect if the republicans didn't hate science.

Government science tends to be bullshit...neither the best, nor the brightest work for government...what do you expect for the low bid?

 

[skookerasbil]

omg, fish are going to trucked to the seas

only some wacko environments could come up that stupidity

in their eyes, it's fish over human beings

and then there's the oldcrustyrock and his accusations on how we are thrilled to see California suffering

You know what, THEY ELECTED THE GOVERNMENT they have, none of us here have a damn to do with it

These miserable fucks are human racists!!