The attempt to refrain the gun control debate

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  1. Quantum Windbag
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    I have been listening to the pundits talk about the need to get guns out of the hands of crazy people, and how happy they are that Obama said something needs to be done to stop tragedies like the one today. What, exactly, are the alternatives? We have no way to determine if someone is going to flip out and go on a shooting spree. Even if we did, what are we going to do? If we put them in a database that prevents them from buying a gun what is to stop them from stealing one? Should we require everyone to be tested, and lock everyone who the tests identify as a danger up? Do we really want to create a society that locks people up because they might do something?

    The way I see it is we have two choices, either deny everyone freedom, or accept the fact that crazy people are going to do crazy things. If anyone has an actual alternative to those options I would love to hear it.
     
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    Asshole. Scum.

    you just pissed on the parents who lost their children today.

    there's a special place in hell for the NRA and Wayne LaPierre.
     
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    lolz... How are all the Democrat wars doin?
     
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    I bet the guy that shot them pissed them off a lot more than I did.
     
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    Are you for real? There nothing impossible about banning anything shorter than a hunting rifle, all semiautomatics and high-capacity magazines. And making licensing of the rest hard and expensive, so only determined hunters could get it.

    Then if you are a homicidal maniac, where would steal your gun from? Police?
     
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    Liberal Libruhl! Libruhl!

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    I am as liberal as they come.

    However, I am a realist, guns are never going to go away.

    Even if they did pass a law restricting them.. We can't even keep drugs and cell phones out of a prison, which is a few acres of land.. Let alone guns (already well distributed) in the entire USA.

    After every event like this, we will see a "sparked" debate about it, however I would be very surprised to ever see anything happen about it.

    The right and the NRA won this war, this are the consequences that all of us (including children) have to deal with... Repeatedly.
     
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    why did you need another gun thread today? the others weren't enough?

    whining pretend libertarian.
     
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    There is lot that can be done short of banning firearms. I went to a PTA meeting at my grand-kids school last year. One of the speakers described the emergency planning being done which included school emergencies drills, better and faster lock-downs and improved communications. These can help limit damage, but you're right, there is no way to stop the violence.

    Although this was a horrible tragedy, I think we need to keep things in prospective. There was about 60 school shootings this year in 7 schools. In the US we have 50 millions students in 100,000 public schools.
     
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    Having fun walking alll over those dead bodies to take your bull shit political jabs?
     
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    The problem liberals have on the issue of guns is the same problem Republicans have on Gay marriage but in reverse.

    In the future gays will get married because that's how it in fact will happen.

    In the future guns will even become more deadly and still legal.

    To fight against gay marriage is useless as fighting to ban guns. You just look like bigots because that’s what you are.
     
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