The Anti-Religion of the Left....

[PoliticalChic]

The 'god' of the Left has the name 'Marx.'

We all know about you righties and your hallucinations

This is what the Right stands for....

Individualism
Free markets
Limited constitutional government.


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Where's the problem, you dolt?

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This is what the Right stands for....

Individualism
Free markets
Limited constitutional government.


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Where's the problem, you dolt?

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the dolt is the one that left out healthcare wanting instead for the aged, infirm and disadvantage to silently die off to further their own undeserved personal merriment, leaving others to suffer.

If knowledge were a prerequisite for posting, you'd be mute.

The greatest President in a century made certain that every single person, legal or otherwise, in this nation, had healthcare.

He did this in 1986.

How could you not know, dolt?


Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act(COBRA). ... EMTALA's provisions apply to all patients, not just to Medicare patients.
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia

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PC is a JOKE.

The greatest President in a century made certain that every single person, legal or otherwise, in this nation, had healthcare.

The Affordable Care Act, Health Care Law


the real one passed in 2010, not one republican in either chamber voted for the Law. Ronald Reagan was good for lip service and nothing else. that's why progressives took the necessary action to insure health car for all citizens at an affordable cost.

There is no 'joke' anywhere.

I simply exposed you as the fool you are.
You claimed the following: "...the dolt is the one that left out healthcare..."

I simply proved that everyone in the nation has had healthcare since Ronald Reagan mandated it in 1986.




If there is a 'joke' you are is, in this punch line: "that's why progressives took the necessary action to insure health car for all citizens at an affordable cost."

Clearly, it is not affordable.....every exchange is failing.

And....there was no need for it, as nearly 90% of those who had their own insurance prior to the Bolshevik plan, favored it:

Here's what we found, poll by poll, in reverse chronological order:

• Quinnipiac University, Sept. 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 54 percent very satisfied, 34 percent somewhat.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.

• Quinnipiac University, June 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 49 percent very satisfied, 36 somewhat satisfied.Total: 85 percent satisfaction.

• ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2009. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 21 percent extremely satisfied, 37 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 88 percent satisfaction.

• ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." 31 percent extremely satisfied, 41 percent very satisfied, 23 somewhat satisfied. Total: 95 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Overall satisfaction with my health (insurance) care plan." 23 percent extremely satisfied, 38 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 91 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2008. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 17 percent extremely satisfied, 36 percent very satisfied, 33 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 86 percent satisfaction.

If you average these eight scores, the total rate of satisfaction is 87 percent. In all but one poll, the satisfaction level was below Will's stated level of 95 percent.

One poll, taken five months before Obama was inaugurated, did come up with 95 percent satisfaction. But alone among these eight polls, that survey asked participants about the "quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." While we decided that the wording was close enough to merit inclusion on our list, the modest difference in satisfaction levels may stem from the way the question was phrased. Many people feel more warmly toward their doctors than they do toward their insurers.

So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True.

Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it


Now can we agree that you're a moron?

 

[G.T.]

Anti religion resides on the side of the open minded.

Ive met many anti religious folks who are both right wing, and left wing.

Fact is, the organized religions that humanity's created are all weak, and ha e many holes...

Same as humanity, animals and the universe in general.

The more weak minded, the more in need of religion it seems.

One can be a rocket scientist on one hand, and so afraid of death and the unknown that theyre susceptible to persuasion and cognitive dissonance on the other.

If one's capable, they are agnostic and not religious.

Atheism and Theocracy are of the ego-centric mind.

Born of "I have to pretend I know." Even if one's tricking one's self.

 

[BreezeWood]

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I simply proved that everyone in the nation has had healthcare since Ronald Reagan mandated it in 1986.

EarthLink - Politics
Collins' opposition all but kills GOP health care drive

you're down to 5 days PC not even your fallacies are putting humpty ronald reagan dumpty back together again ... the ACA is a monumental legislative accomplishment, the Titanic has been resurrected.

 

[ScienceRocks]

We're anti-religion because religion is based on bull shit and makes one dumber. Period.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

...is a repudiation of the very basis of the founding of this nation.

1. Succinctly, the view of the Founders can be found here:
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams



2. The undeserving former President represented the Left:

"President Obama devoted his weekly radio address to thanking U.S. service members and volunteers at shelters and soup kitchens. But it's whom he didn't thank that caused a stir on Twitter: God.

"We're especially grateful for the Americans who defend our country overseas," Obama said in his Thanksgiving Day address. "To all the service members eating Thanksgiving dinner far from your families, the American people are thinking of you today."

According to the White House, Obama personally called 10 service members in Iraq and Afghanistan on Thursday to say happy Thanksgiving. On Wednesday, the president, the first lady and their daughters, Malia and Sasha, did their bit of volunteering, stopping by Washington's Capital Area Foodbank to help fill care packages.

But Thursday morning, Republicans and others tweeted their discontent with the reported omission of God from Obama's address."
Obama criticized on Twitter for Thanksgiving remarks omitting God




3. And....the effects of the Left's influence in America, here:

"Documented Cases of Religious Discrimination Jump 15%
Freedom of religion isn’t as protected as some Americans may think. In fact, reported attacks on religion are increasing in the U.S. and, according to First Liberty Institute, the evidence is undeniable.

The 2017 edition of a First Liberty report called “Undeniable” shows threats to Americans’ First Amendment rights spanning the past five years.

The number of documented incidents of religious discrimination grew 15 percent ..."
Documented Cases of Religious Discrimination Jump 15%

Somewhere along the line, you American Christians got confused and conflated "not getting everything you want" with "oppression" or "anti-religious sentiment". yes, you are just spoiled brats. "Mommy's anti-baby, because she won't let me eat a pound of chocolate before dinner! Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!"

 

[ScienceRocks]

The religous in this country wishes to destroy peoples lives if they don't follow their dumb religious trash. No one is stopping them from going to church or airing their trash on t.v...

Human rights is something religion has never understood.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The religous in this country wishes to destroy peoples lives if they don't follow their dumb religious trash. No one is stopping them from going to church or airing their trash on t.v...

Human rights is something religion has never understood.

"anti-religion", to them, is anyone who criticizes their religious beliefs. Of course, they are "anti-religion" to any religion but their own....

 

[phaethon]

Copy pasting from an article? Btw I have updated my post with a quote from Goethe, should help clarify on what Logos meant in John 1.

So you couldn't find a single error in my posts?

Excellent.

No, it seemed to me like you were just quoting from an article. I've taken a closer look.

#3-5.

That's a modern definition of deism. You have to see it the way people saw it back then.

Jefferson identified Deism as "the belief of one only God." Paine said concerning Deism: "The true deist has but one Deity; and his religion consists in contemplating the power, wisdom, and benignity of the Deity in his works, and in endeavouring to imitate him in every thing moral, scientifical, and mechanical." And he contrasts this with Christianity. And he identifies the Quakers as being nearest to Deism, but criticizes them for "leaving the works of God out of their system."

Judeo-Christianity and Marxism are kindred spirits. The difference is that hardly anyone has actually read Marx and it's more about agitators and demagogues rallying the masses to a cause and repeating political mantras and catchphrases. In my view, Christianity is the greater long-term menace. Plenty of people have observed the effects of Communism, but many still deny the effects of Christianity.

If the Left can be considered the protectors of the status quo, then the Right are also guilty of being reactionaries. They just want a slightly better maintenance of Christian-based Western civilization, before immigration policies were implemented. It's incredibly petty. Neither want any real change.

“governs in the affairs of men.”

The same could be said for a set of impersonal laws.

Let’s start with George Washington.

Washington’s writings, both public and private, are full of references to the Bible. This is certainly true during his eight years as the first President of the United States.

Here is Washington at his first Inaugural:
“The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained.”
In all likelihood, Washington was an orthodox Christian.

It's a public speech. You could argue Hitler was a Christian based on his April 12, 1922 speech. Note the "eternal rules of order and right".

Like Washington, Benjamin Franklin also referenced Bible verses, stories, and metaphors throughout his life. His calls for prayer at the Constitutional Convention were typical of his attitude. Franklin, who had his own unorthodox views, summed up his faith this way: “That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this.”

Clearly not a view of God ignoring his creations.

Pagan antiquity and other religions also taught the immortality of souls and a conception of an afterlife. It's not a Christian monopolization.

6. When it comes to John Adams, the Leftwing sophists have a field day!

"Adams referred to himself as a Christian throughout his life, but did not believe in traditional Christian doctrines such as the trinity or the divinity of Jesus.... [but] before, during and after his tenure as President, Adams repeatedly asserted his admiration for the Christian faith... Adams spoke of his great respect for the Bible. “[T]he Bible is the best book in the world. It contains more of my… philosophy than all the libraries I have seen…”

a. Those who suggest that Adams was in any way against religion like to quote from a letter he wrote to Thomas Jefferson in which he said, “This would be the best of all possible worlds if there was no religion in it.”

Seems to be a perfect spokesman for Marx or Lenin, no?

Definitely, no.

Unfortunately, those who cite this line never quote the lines that immediately follow “But in this exclamation, I should have been as fanatical as [the skeptics of religion]. Without religion, this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company—I mean hell.”

So, those who quote the first line without quoting the subsequent lines are either unaware of the full comment or are deliberately misleading people as to Adams’s beliefs."
Ibid.

What's your point? In the first two cases, you tried to link the Founding Fathers with the Bible. Now here, Adams holds an unorthodox view, detached from the Bible.

The second quote says nothing of him being a Christian. It merely indicates that he recognized the necessity of religion for the greater masses of people. Without religion, people would have already exterminated themselves off this planet. The religions are for kings and commoners, they are quite simply the sole bastion against arbitrary power. As Washington put it, "The mere politician equally with the pious man ought to respect and to cherish them." If there was no religion, we should perchance go from one extreme to another, to no avail, like the Germans.

However, that does not mean that everyone needs to subscribe to a particular religion. There have always been a small minority of philosophers and idealists who can live without it. I'd say there's more piety found in the writings of Carl Sagan than in the entire Bible.

7. "Like Adams, Thomas Jefferson did not adhere to orthodox doctrine. Yet he often declared himself to be a Christian. “I am a Christian, he said, “in the only sense he [Jesus] wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines...”

As one of the leaders of the American Revolution, his views are well known. After all, this is the man who wrote in the Declaration of Independence that “all men… are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” You can’t get a much more explicit statement of belief than that.

Again, this has nothing to do with the Bible.

Hardly. He said in his writings that he did not want to commit his religion to anyone, that it was a private matter between him and god alone. Also, there's a strong possibility that Thomas Paine was involved in the writing of the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration of Independence: Was It Written by Thomas Paine? by Walton Williams

Why is it sooooo very important for Leftist to disparage religion?

Because it is essential to their central doctrine to do so.

8. "The concept of atheism is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism." If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses.

When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor." The Schwarz Report | Essays

Atheism and Christianity are practically the same, the one has just tossed out god and the cornerstone and places a greater emphasis on the morals/ethics, which are admittedly neglected in Christian circles. Also, they've both misinterpreted the symbol "out of nothing".

The Ten Commandments are a good set of laws, but they are no divine authority. No community can exist without laws.

Thomas Paine

They contain some good moral precepts such as any man qualified to be a lawgiver or a legislator could produce himself, without having recourse to supernatural intervention.

John Quincy Adams

The law given from Sinai was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code; it contained many statutes adapted to that time only, and to the particular circumstances of the nation to whom it was given... but many others were of universal application – laws essential to the existence of men in society, and most of which have been enacted by every nation, which ever professed any code of laws.

9. The Founders memorialized the very opposite in our founding documents.

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in Declaration of Independence

1)in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’ 2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,” 3) Supreme Judge of the world, and 4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.

Since these rights are associated with each individual, they cannot be withdrawn, or subjugated to the will of a governing body.

And...despite the secular nature of our national government, there is one unambiguous reference to Christ in the Constitution. Article VII dates the Constitution in "the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven."
"The Year of Our Lord" and separation.

When asked, "What is the divine?", Thales answered: "That which has neither beginning nor end."

"Laws of Nature and of Nature's God" says enough. Majority of the Founding Fathers were learning towards Pantheism.

Not a Leftist btw.

 

[PoliticalChic]

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I simply proved that everyone in the nation has had healthcare since Ronald Reagan mandated it in 1986.

EarthLink - Politics
Collins' opposition all but kills GOP health care drive


View attachment 151353

you're down to 5 days PC not even your fallacies are putting humpty ronald reagan dumpty back together again ... the ACA is a monumental legislative accomplishment, the Titanic has been resurrected.

Nothing beats the warm fuzzy feeling of battering the clueless....you.

"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool





"...the exchanges are on the brink of collapse. Major insurers are quitting, premiums are skyrocketing, enrollment is below expectations, and the administration is taking increasingly desperate measures to paper over the problems. By this time next year, the exchanges could be out of business."
Read more at: More Duct Tape Won’t Save Obamacare’s Collapsing Exchanges



"Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts"
Enrollment in the insurance exchanges for President Obama’s signature health-care law is at less than half the initial forecast, pushing several major insurance companies to stop offering health plans in certain markets because of significant financial losses."
Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts


"For 2016, the average deductible for singles for the lowest-cost bronze plan is $5,700, and for families, it is $12,000.


Obamacare is collapsing as health insurance companies continue to withdraw from the exchanges.
Congress will either convert Obamacare into a public plan—such as Medicare for all—or repeal it altogether."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



1. "American consumers figured out from the beginning that Obamacare wasn’t worth buying. Now insurance companies are wising up. Aetna is withdrawing from Obamacare exchanges in 11 states, following United Healthcare Group’s decision last April to leave 34 states.



2. In a well-functioning insurance market, such as for automobile accidents, insurance carriers craft countless plans to meet exactly the needs of millions of different individuals. Typically, only catastrophic unexpected events are covered, not the predictable oil changes. Automobile insurance is real insurance, and automobile owners as well as insurance companies eagerly participate.

Not so for Obamacare, which is not insurance at all. Under Obamacare annual physicals, which are predictable and routine, are covered without charge, but major surgery requires payment of a $6,000 to $12,000 deductible.




3. Aetna [stated], “This is a business decision based on higher-than-projected medical costs.... a second-quarter pretax loss of $200 million ..... we project will grow to in excess of $300 million by the end of the 2016.”

Insurance companies are making losses because fewer Americans are signing up for Obamacare than were predicted, and these Americans are sicker than average. Premiums rose in some markets by 20 percent in 2016, leading to more healthy people dropping out of plans or not enrolling, accelerating the financial imbalance. Premiums are expected to rise by a similar amount—or more—in 2017.

[Clearly, Obama is better suited to be President of Venezuela or Cuba than of America!]



4. The [failed] Obamacare model is not workable, .... It requires an expensive, comprehensive plan that obligates participants to purchase coverage for maternity care even if they have finished having children, pediatric dental care even if they are childless, mental health coverage even if they do not need it, and drug abuse coverage even if they have never taken any drugs.

5. People are not allowed to buy a simple plan that covers major illnesses such as heart disease, cancer, or falling off a bike in traffic. Furthermore, the deductibles—the amount that has to be spent before people can use the insurance—are so broad as to make coverage practically useless."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



Useless 'insurance,' passed wholly by the useless party.


"In reality, enrollment growth on the ACA exchanges has fallen far short of projections because uninsured middle-income Americans have largely decided that — despite the availability of subsidies and the penalty for not purchasing insurance — the insurance on offer is too expensive." Why Obamacare Is Failing at "Universal Coverage" | Yevgeniy Feyman




12. Oh....and by the way, Obama, and you, his voters, cost the nation a bundle:

"Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges The last remaining Obamacare exchanges are on the brink of collapse, and billions have been wasted on the ones that did fail. " Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges




Quite an achievement, huh?

 

[PoliticalChic]

We're anti-religion because religion is based on bull shit and makes one dumber. Period.

Have no fear....
You couldn't be dumber.

 

[BreezeWood]

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I simply proved that everyone in the nation has had healthcare since Ronald Reagan mandated it in 1986.

EarthLink - Politics
Collins' opposition all but kills GOP health care drive


View attachment 151353

you're down to 5 days PC not even your fallacies are putting humpty ronald reagan dumpty back together again ... the ACA is a monumental legislative accomplishment, the Titanic has been resurrected.

Nothing beats the warm fuzzy feeling of battering the clueless....you.

"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool





"...the exchanges are on the brink of collapse. Major insurers are quitting, premiums are skyrocketing, enrollment is below expectations, and the administration is taking increasingly desperate measures to paper over the problems. By this time next year, the exchanges could be out of business."
Read more at: More Duct Tape Won’t Save Obamacare’s Collapsing Exchanges



"Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts"
Enrollment in the insurance exchanges for President Obama’s signature health-care law is at less than half the initial forecast, pushing several major insurance companies to stop offering health plans in certain markets because of significant financial losses."
Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts


"For 2016, the average deductible for singles for the lowest-cost bronze plan is $5,700, and for families, it is $12,000.


Obamacare is collapsing as health insurance companies continue to withdraw from the exchanges.
Congress will either convert Obamacare into a public plan—such as Medicare for all—or repeal it altogether."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



1. "American consumers figured out from the beginning that Obamacare wasn’t worth buying. Now insurance companies are wising up. Aetna is withdrawing from Obamacare exchanges in 11 states, following United Healthcare Group’s decision last April to leave 34 states.



2. In a well-functioning insurance market, such as for automobile accidents, insurance carriers craft countless plans to meet exactly the needs of millions of different individuals. Typically, only catastrophic unexpected events are covered, not the predictable oil changes. Automobile insurance is real insurance, and automobile owners as well as insurance companies eagerly participate.

Not so for Obamacare, which is not insurance at all. Under Obamacare annual physicals, which are predictable and routine, are covered without charge, but major surgery requires payment of a $6,000 to $12,000 deductible.




3. Aetna [stated], “This is a business decision based on higher-than-projected medical costs.... a second-quarter pretax loss of $200 million ..... we project will grow to in excess of $300 million by the end of the 2016.”

Insurance companies are making losses because fewer Americans are signing up for Obamacare than were predicted, and these Americans are sicker than average. Premiums rose in some markets by 20 percent in 2016, leading to more healthy people dropping out of plans or not enrolling, accelerating the financial imbalance. Premiums are expected to rise by a similar amount—or more—in 2017.

[Clearly, Obama is better suited to be President of Venezuela or Cuba than of America!]



4. The [failed] Obamacare model is not workable, .... It requires an expensive, comprehensive plan that obligates participants to purchase coverage for maternity care even if they have finished having children, pediatric dental care even if they are childless, mental health coverage even if they do not need it, and drug abuse coverage even if they have never taken any drugs.

5. People are not allowed to buy a simple plan that covers major illnesses such as heart disease, cancer, or falling off a bike in traffic. Furthermore, the deductibles—the amount that has to be spent before people can use the insurance—are so broad as to make coverage practically useless."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



Useless 'insurance,' passed wholly by the useless party.


"In reality, enrollment growth on the ACA exchanges has fallen far short of projections because uninsured middle-income Americans have largely decided that — despite the availability of subsidies and the penalty for not purchasing insurance — the insurance on offer is too expensive." Why Obamacare Is Failing at "Universal Coverage" | Yevgeniy Feyman




12. Oh....and by the way, Obama, and you, his voters, cost the nation a bundle:

"Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges The last remaining Obamacare exchanges are on the brink of collapse, and billions have been wasted on the ones that did fail. " Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges




Quite an achievement, huh?

.

Quite an achievement, huh?

saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards, what is the problem PC if what you believe were true with majorities in both chambers and the WH ... there must be something you are hiding (from) called the truth. and that at one time the ACA was endorsed by the pugs, its fun watching you all squirm and even more so leading up to the 2018 elections.

The Motley Fool

really, I hope you do not rely on them for any of your investments or - idiots beget idiots.

 

[PoliticalChic]

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I simply proved that everyone in the nation has had healthcare since Ronald Reagan mandated it in 1986.

EarthLink - Politics
Collins' opposition all but kills GOP health care drive


View attachment 151353

you're down to 5 days PC not even your fallacies are putting humpty ronald reagan dumpty back together again ... the ACA is a monumental legislative accomplishment, the Titanic has been resurrected.

Nothing beats the warm fuzzy feeling of battering the clueless....you.

"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool





"...the exchanges are on the brink of collapse. Major insurers are quitting, premiums are skyrocketing, enrollment is below expectations, and the administration is taking increasingly desperate measures to paper over the problems. By this time next year, the exchanges could be out of business."
Read more at: More Duct Tape Won’t Save Obamacare’s Collapsing Exchanges



"Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts"
Enrollment in the insurance exchanges for President Obama’s signature health-care law is at less than half the initial forecast, pushing several major insurance companies to stop offering health plans in certain markets because of significant financial losses."
Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts


"For 2016, the average deductible for singles for the lowest-cost bronze plan is $5,700, and for families, it is $12,000.


Obamacare is collapsing as health insurance companies continue to withdraw from the exchanges.
Congress will either convert Obamacare into a public plan—such as Medicare for all—or repeal it altogether."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



1. "American consumers figured out from the beginning that Obamacare wasn’t worth buying. Now insurance companies are wising up. Aetna is withdrawing from Obamacare exchanges in 11 states, following United Healthcare Group’s decision last April to leave 34 states.



2. In a well-functioning insurance market, such as for automobile accidents, insurance carriers craft countless plans to meet exactly the needs of millions of different individuals. Typically, only catastrophic unexpected events are covered, not the predictable oil changes. Automobile insurance is real insurance, and automobile owners as well as insurance companies eagerly participate.

Not so for Obamacare, which is not insurance at all. Under Obamacare annual physicals, which are predictable and routine, are covered without charge, but major surgery requires payment of a $6,000 to $12,000 deductible.




3. Aetna [stated], “This is a business decision based on higher-than-projected medical costs.... a second-quarter pretax loss of $200 million ..... we project will grow to in excess of $300 million by the end of the 2016.”

Insurance companies are making losses because fewer Americans are signing up for Obamacare than were predicted, and these Americans are sicker than average. Premiums rose in some markets by 20 percent in 2016, leading to more healthy people dropping out of plans or not enrolling, accelerating the financial imbalance. Premiums are expected to rise by a similar amount—or more—in 2017.

[Clearly, Obama is better suited to be President of Venezuela or Cuba than of America!]



4. The [failed] Obamacare model is not workable, .... It requires an expensive, comprehensive plan that obligates participants to purchase coverage for maternity care even if they have finished having children, pediatric dental care even if they are childless, mental health coverage even if they do not need it, and drug abuse coverage even if they have never taken any drugs.

5. People are not allowed to buy a simple plan that covers major illnesses such as heart disease, cancer, or falling off a bike in traffic. Furthermore, the deductibles—the amount that has to be spent before people can use the insurance—are so broad as to make coverage practically useless."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



Useless 'insurance,' passed wholly by the useless party.


"In reality, enrollment growth on the ACA exchanges has fallen far short of projections because uninsured middle-income Americans have largely decided that — despite the availability of subsidies and the penalty for not purchasing insurance — the insurance on offer is too expensive." Why Obamacare Is Failing at "Universal Coverage" | Yevgeniy Feyman




12. Oh....and by the way, Obama, and you, his voters, cost the nation a bundle:

"Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges The last remaining Obamacare exchanges are on the brink of collapse, and billions have been wasted on the ones that did fail. " Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges




Quite an achievement, huh?

.

Quite an achievement, huh?

saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards, what is the problem PC if what you believe were true with majorities in both chambers and the WH ... there must be something you are hiding (from) called the truth. and that at one time the ACA was endorsed by the pugs, its fun watching you all squirm and even more so leading up to the 2018 elections.

The Motley Fool

really, I hope you do not rely on them for any of your investments or - idiots beget idiots.

"...saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards,..."

Backwards from what?

Republicans provided healthcare for all in 1986.

Due, of course, to the forethought of the most successful President in a hundred years.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

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I simply proved that everyone in the nation has had healthcare since Ronald Reagan mandated it in 1986.

EarthLink - Politics
Collins' opposition all but kills GOP health care drive


View attachment 151353

you're down to 5 days PC not even your fallacies are putting humpty ronald reagan dumpty back together again ... the ACA is a monumental legislative accomplishment, the Titanic has been resurrected.

Nothing beats the warm fuzzy feeling of battering the clueless....you.

"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool





"...the exchanges are on the brink of collapse. Major insurers are quitting, premiums are skyrocketing, enrollment is below expectations, and the administration is taking increasingly desperate measures to paper over the problems. By this time next year, the exchanges could be out of business."
Read more at: More Duct Tape Won’t Save Obamacare’s Collapsing Exchanges



"Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts"
Enrollment in the insurance exchanges for President Obama’s signature health-care law is at less than half the initial forecast, pushing several major insurance companies to stop offering health plans in certain markets because of significant financial losses."
Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts


"For 2016, the average deductible for singles for the lowest-cost bronze plan is $5,700, and for families, it is $12,000.


Obamacare is collapsing as health insurance companies continue to withdraw from the exchanges.
Congress will either convert Obamacare into a public plan—such as Medicare for all—or repeal it altogether."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



1. "American consumers figured out from the beginning that Obamacare wasn’t worth buying. Now insurance companies are wising up. Aetna is withdrawing from Obamacare exchanges in 11 states, following United Healthcare Group’s decision last April to leave 34 states.



2. In a well-functioning insurance market, such as for automobile accidents, insurance carriers craft countless plans to meet exactly the needs of millions of different individuals. Typically, only catastrophic unexpected events are covered, not the predictable oil changes. Automobile insurance is real insurance, and automobile owners as well as insurance companies eagerly participate.

Not so for Obamacare, which is not insurance at all. Under Obamacare annual physicals, which are predictable and routine, are covered without charge, but major surgery requires payment of a $6,000 to $12,000 deductible.




3. Aetna [stated], “This is a business decision based on higher-than-projected medical costs.... a second-quarter pretax loss of $200 million ..... we project will grow to in excess of $300 million by the end of the 2016.”

Insurance companies are making losses because fewer Americans are signing up for Obamacare than were predicted, and these Americans are sicker than average. Premiums rose in some markets by 20 percent in 2016, leading to more healthy people dropping out of plans or not enrolling, accelerating the financial imbalance. Premiums are expected to rise by a similar amount—or more—in 2017.

[Clearly, Obama is better suited to be President of Venezuela or Cuba than of America!]



4. The [failed] Obamacare model is not workable, .... It requires an expensive, comprehensive plan that obligates participants to purchase coverage for maternity care even if they have finished having children, pediatric dental care even if they are childless, mental health coverage even if they do not need it, and drug abuse coverage even if they have never taken any drugs.

5. People are not allowed to buy a simple plan that covers major illnesses such as heart disease, cancer, or falling off a bike in traffic. Furthermore, the deductibles—the amount that has to be spent before people can use the insurance—are so broad as to make coverage practically useless."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



Useless 'insurance,' passed wholly by the useless party.


"In reality, enrollment growth on the ACA exchanges has fallen far short of projections because uninsured middle-income Americans have largely decided that — despite the availability of subsidies and the penalty for not purchasing insurance — the insurance on offer is too expensive." Why Obamacare Is Failing at "Universal Coverage" | Yevgeniy Feyman




12. Oh....and by the way, Obama, and you, his voters, cost the nation a bundle:

"Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges The last remaining Obamacare exchanges are on the brink of collapse, and billions have been wasted on the ones that did fail. " Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges




Quite an achievement, huh?

.

Quite an achievement, huh?

saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards, what is the problem PC if what you believe were true with majorities in both chambers and the WH ... there must be something you are hiding (from) called the truth. and that at one time the ACA was endorsed by the pugs, its fun watching you all squirm and even more so leading up to the 2018 elections.

The Motley Fool

really, I hope you do not rely on them for any of your investments or - idiots beget idiots.

"...saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards,..."

Backwards from what?

Republicans provided healthcare for all in 1986.

Due, of course, to the forethought of the most successful President in a hundred years.

No, Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results.

And the only time I see any campaigns against religion are when religion oversteps its bounds, and demands state sponsorship, or the teaching of magical nonsense in science classrooms.

 

[PoliticalChic]

.

I simply proved that everyone in the nation has had healthcare since Ronald Reagan mandated it in 1986.

EarthLink - Politics
Collins' opposition all but kills GOP health care drive


View attachment 151353

you're down to 5 days PC not even your fallacies are putting humpty ronald reagan dumpty back together again ... the ACA is a monumental legislative accomplishment, the Titanic has been resurrected.

Nothing beats the warm fuzzy feeling of battering the clueless....you.

"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool





"...the exchanges are on the brink of collapse. Major insurers are quitting, premiums are skyrocketing, enrollment is below expectations, and the administration is taking increasingly desperate measures to paper over the problems. By this time next year, the exchanges could be out of business."
Read more at: More Duct Tape Won’t Save Obamacare’s Collapsing Exchanges



"Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts"
Enrollment in the insurance exchanges for President Obama’s signature health-care law is at less than half the initial forecast, pushing several major insurance companies to stop offering health plans in certain markets because of significant financial losses."
Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts


"For 2016, the average deductible for singles for the lowest-cost bronze plan is $5,700, and for families, it is $12,000.


Obamacare is collapsing as health insurance companies continue to withdraw from the exchanges.
Congress will either convert Obamacare into a public plan—such as Medicare for all—or repeal it altogether."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



1. "American consumers figured out from the beginning that Obamacare wasn’t worth buying. Now insurance companies are wising up. Aetna is withdrawing from Obamacare exchanges in 11 states, following United Healthcare Group’s decision last April to leave 34 states.



2. In a well-functioning insurance market, such as for automobile accidents, insurance carriers craft countless plans to meet exactly the needs of millions of different individuals. Typically, only catastrophic unexpected events are covered, not the predictable oil changes. Automobile insurance is real insurance, and automobile owners as well as insurance companies eagerly participate.

Not so for Obamacare, which is not insurance at all. Under Obamacare annual physicals, which are predictable and routine, are covered without charge, but major surgery requires payment of a $6,000 to $12,000 deductible.




3. Aetna [stated], “This is a business decision based on higher-than-projected medical costs.... a second-quarter pretax loss of $200 million ..... we project will grow to in excess of $300 million by the end of the 2016.”

Insurance companies are making losses because fewer Americans are signing up for Obamacare than were predicted, and these Americans are sicker than average. Premiums rose in some markets by 20 percent in 2016, leading to more healthy people dropping out of plans or not enrolling, accelerating the financial imbalance. Premiums are expected to rise by a similar amount—or more—in 2017.

[Clearly, Obama is better suited to be President of Venezuela or Cuba than of America!]



4. The [failed] Obamacare model is not workable, .... It requires an expensive, comprehensive plan that obligates participants to purchase coverage for maternity care even if they have finished having children, pediatric dental care even if they are childless, mental health coverage even if they do not need it, and drug abuse coverage even if they have never taken any drugs.

5. People are not allowed to buy a simple plan that covers major illnesses such as heart disease, cancer, or falling off a bike in traffic. Furthermore, the deductibles—the amount that has to be spent before people can use the insurance—are so broad as to make coverage practically useless."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



Useless 'insurance,' passed wholly by the useless party.


"In reality, enrollment growth on the ACA exchanges has fallen far short of projections because uninsured middle-income Americans have largely decided that — despite the availability of subsidies and the penalty for not purchasing insurance — the insurance on offer is too expensive." Why Obamacare Is Failing at "Universal Coverage" | Yevgeniy Feyman




12. Oh....and by the way, Obama, and you, his voters, cost the nation a bundle:

"Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges The last remaining Obamacare exchanges are on the brink of collapse, and billions have been wasted on the ones that did fail. " Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges




Quite an achievement, huh?

.

Quite an achievement, huh?

saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards, what is the problem PC if what you believe were true with majorities in both chambers and the WH ... there must be something you are hiding (from) called the truth. and that at one time the ACA was endorsed by the pugs, its fun watching you all squirm and even more so leading up to the 2018 elections.

The Motley Fool

really, I hope you do not rely on them for any of your investments or - idiots beget idiots.

"...saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards,..."

Backwards from what?

Republicans provided healthcare for all in 1986.

Due, of course, to the forethought of the most successful President in a hundred years.

No, Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results.

And the only time I see any campaigns against religion are when religion oversteps its bounds, and demands state sponsorship, or the teaching of magical nonsense in science classrooms.

"Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results."


Gads, you're a dunce.

I can imagine the confetti parades we'd suffer through if the failure, Hussein Obama, had these numbers:

1. The benefits from Reaganomics:
   1. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
   2. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
   3. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
   4. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
   5. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) http://www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/tables10.html
   6. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116

b. and c. Kiva Lending Team: Team REAL Americans | Kiva



2. While the ranks of the wealthy quickly multiplied, middle-class investors also entered the stock market in rapidly growing numbers. The creation by Congress in 1978 of the 401(k) tax-deferred retirement plan provided new incentives for workers to invest their savings in the stock market (often through mutual funds) rather than relying on company-funded pensions for retirement. The 401(k) led to a kind of democratization of Wall Street, as the percentage of American households owning some stake in the stock market—either directly or through mutual funds—shot quickly from 15.9% in 1983 to 29.6% in 1989.23 Thus the great bull market of the 1980s created more wealth, for more American families, than any previous boom in history.

Investment Company Institute, "Equity Ownership in America, 2005," http://www.ici.org/pdf/rpt_05_equity_owners.pdf,

The Reagan Era Learning Guide: Citations



3. Instead.....there was this:

a. "Obamacare health insurance co-ops surged past the $1 billion mark in losses this week, making history of sorts.The insolvencies, totaling $1.36 billion, mean that the co-ops have burned through more than half of the original $2 billion appropriatedin 2010 for the program under the Affordable Care Act. The funds were loaned to the start-up co-ops in 2012 and were to be repaid in 15 years, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which manages Obamacare.


...13 of the 23 federally-financed Obamacare co-ops have officially failed in only two years. Most are in the process of default as insurance regulators attempt to pay customer’s medical bills, cover medical providers and pay other creditors.
Obamacare Co-Op Mess Causes $1.3 Billion In Losses


b. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/with-gdp-downgrade-obama-growth-gap-expands/

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth."http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/09/investing/hedge-fund-billionaire-defends-obama-chanos/



c. ".... calculating how much the debt increased during Obama's two terms. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, it was $19.947 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other president."
How Much Did Obama Add to the Nation's Debt?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

.



EarthLink - Politics
Collins' opposition all but kills GOP health care drive


View attachment 151353

you're down to 5 days PC not even your fallacies are putting humpty ronald reagan dumpty back together again ... the ACA is a monumental legislative accomplishment, the Titanic has been resurrected.

Nothing beats the warm fuzzy feeling of battering the clueless....you.

"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool





"...the exchanges are on the brink of collapse. Major insurers are quitting, premiums are skyrocketing, enrollment is below expectations, and the administration is taking increasingly desperate measures to paper over the problems. By this time next year, the exchanges could be out of business."
Read more at: More Duct Tape Won’t Save Obamacare’s Collapsing Exchanges



"Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts"
Enrollment in the insurance exchanges for President Obama’s signature health-care law is at less than half the initial forecast, pushing several major insurance companies to stop offering health plans in certain markets because of significant financial losses."
Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts


"For 2016, the average deductible for singles for the lowest-cost bronze plan is $5,700, and for families, it is $12,000.


Obamacare is collapsing as health insurance companies continue to withdraw from the exchanges.
Congress will either convert Obamacare into a public plan—such as Medicare for all—or repeal it altogether."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



1. "American consumers figured out from the beginning that Obamacare wasn’t worth buying. Now insurance companies are wising up. Aetna is withdrawing from Obamacare exchanges in 11 states, following United Healthcare Group’s decision last April to leave 34 states.



2. In a well-functioning insurance market, such as for automobile accidents, insurance carriers craft countless plans to meet exactly the needs of millions of different individuals. Typically, only catastrophic unexpected events are covered, not the predictable oil changes. Automobile insurance is real insurance, and automobile owners as well as insurance companies eagerly participate.

Not so for Obamacare, which is not insurance at all. Under Obamacare annual physicals, which are predictable and routine, are covered without charge, but major surgery requires payment of a $6,000 to $12,000 deductible.




3. Aetna [stated], “This is a business decision based on higher-than-projected medical costs.... a second-quarter pretax loss of $200 million ..... we project will grow to in excess of $300 million by the end of the 2016.”

Insurance companies are making losses because fewer Americans are signing up for Obamacare than were predicted, and these Americans are sicker than average. Premiums rose in some markets by 20 percent in 2016, leading to more healthy people dropping out of plans or not enrolling, accelerating the financial imbalance. Premiums are expected to rise by a similar amount—or more—in 2017.

[Clearly, Obama is better suited to be President of Venezuela or Cuba than of America!]



4. The [failed] Obamacare model is not workable, .... It requires an expensive, comprehensive plan that obligates participants to purchase coverage for maternity care even if they have finished having children, pediatric dental care even if they are childless, mental health coverage even if they do not need it, and drug abuse coverage even if they have never taken any drugs.

5. People are not allowed to buy a simple plan that covers major illnesses such as heart disease, cancer, or falling off a bike in traffic. Furthermore, the deductibles—the amount that has to be spent before people can use the insurance—are so broad as to make coverage practically useless."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



Useless 'insurance,' passed wholly by the useless party.


"In reality, enrollment growth on the ACA exchanges has fallen far short of projections because uninsured middle-income Americans have largely decided that — despite the availability of subsidies and the penalty for not purchasing insurance — the insurance on offer is too expensive." Why Obamacare Is Failing at "Universal Coverage" | Yevgeniy Feyman




12. Oh....and by the way, Obama, and you, his voters, cost the nation a bundle:

"Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges The last remaining Obamacare exchanges are on the brink of collapse, and billions have been wasted on the ones that did fail. " Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges




Quite an achievement, huh?

.

Quite an achievement, huh?

saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards, what is the problem PC if what you believe were true with majorities in both chambers and the WH ... there must be something you are hiding (from) called the truth. and that at one time the ACA was endorsed by the pugs, its fun watching you all squirm and even more so leading up to the 2018 elections.

The Motley Fool

really, I hope you do not rely on them for any of your investments or - idiots beget idiots.

"...saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards,..."

Backwards from what?

Republicans provided healthcare for all in 1986.

Due, of course, to the forethought of the most successful President in a hundred years.

No, Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results.

And the only time I see any campaigns against religion are when religion oversteps its bounds, and demands state sponsorship, or the teaching of magical nonsense in science classrooms.

"Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results."


Gads, you're a dunce.

I can imagine the confetti parades we'd suffer through if the failure, Hussein Obama, had these numbers:

1. The benefits from Reaganomics:
   1. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
   2. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
   3. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
   4. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
   5. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) http://www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/tables10.html
   6. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116

b. and c. Kiva Lending Team: Team REAL Americans | Kiva



2. While the ranks of the wealthy quickly multiplied, middle-class investors also entered the stock market in rapidly growing numbers. The creation by Congress in 1978 of the 401(k) tax-deferred retirement plan provided new incentives for workers to invest their savings in the stock market (often through mutual funds) rather than relying on company-funded pensions for retirement. The 401(k) led to a kind of democratization of Wall Street, as the percentage of American households owning some stake in the stock market—either directly or through mutual funds—shot quickly from 15.9% in 1983 to 29.6% in 1989.23 Thus the great bull market of the 1980s created more wealth, for more American families, than any previous boom in history.

Investment Company Institute, "Equity Ownership in America, 2005," http://www.ici.org/pdf/rpt_05_equity_owners.pdf,

The Reagan Era Learning Guide: Citations



3. Instead.....there was this:

a. "Obamacare health insurance co-ops surged past the $1 billion mark in losses this week, making history of sorts.The insolvencies, totaling $1.36 billion, mean that the co-ops have burned through more than half of the original $2 billion appropriatedin 2010 for the program under the Affordable Care Act. The funds were loaned to the start-up co-ops in 2012 and were to be repaid in 15 years, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which manages Obamacare.


...13 of the 23 federally-financed Obamacare co-ops have officially failed in only two years. Most are in the process of default as insurance regulators attempt to pay customer’s medical bills, cover medical providers and pay other creditors.
Obamacare Co-Op Mess Causes $1.3 Billion In Losses


b. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth."Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire



c. ".... calculating how much the debt increased during Obama's two terms. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, it was $19.947 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other president."
How Much Did Obama Add to the Nation's Debt?

I was speaking specifically of your stupid idea that making it illegal to turn people away is equivalent to providing "healthcare for all". It isn't, of course, and what a stupid idea that is. really, contrived, manufactured garbage. And his policies directly led to the explosion in costs and premiums, with medical bankruptcies being the number one cause of bankruptcy today.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

.



EarthLink - Politics
Collins' opposition all but kills GOP health care drive


View attachment 151353

you're down to 5 days PC not even your fallacies are putting humpty ronald reagan dumpty back together again ... the ACA is a monumental legislative accomplishment, the Titanic has been resurrected.

Nothing beats the warm fuzzy feeling of battering the clueless....you.

"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool





"...the exchanges are on the brink of collapse. Major insurers are quitting, premiums are skyrocketing, enrollment is below expectations, and the administration is taking increasingly desperate measures to paper over the problems. By this time next year, the exchanges could be out of business."
Read more at: More Duct Tape Won’t Save Obamacare’s Collapsing Exchanges



"Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts"
Enrollment in the insurance exchanges for President Obama’s signature health-care law is at less than half the initial forecast, pushing several major insurance companies to stop offering health plans in certain markets because of significant financial losses."
Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts


"For 2016, the average deductible for singles for the lowest-cost bronze plan is $5,700, and for families, it is $12,000.


Obamacare is collapsing as health insurance companies continue to withdraw from the exchanges.
Congress will either convert Obamacare into a public plan—such as Medicare for all—or repeal it altogether."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



1. "American consumers figured out from the beginning that Obamacare wasn’t worth buying. Now insurance companies are wising up. Aetna is withdrawing from Obamacare exchanges in 11 states, following United Healthcare Group’s decision last April to leave 34 states.



2. In a well-functioning insurance market, such as for automobile accidents, insurance carriers craft countless plans to meet exactly the needs of millions of different individuals. Typically, only catastrophic unexpected events are covered, not the predictable oil changes. Automobile insurance is real insurance, and automobile owners as well as insurance companies eagerly participate.

Not so for Obamacare, which is not insurance at all. Under Obamacare annual physicals, which are predictable and routine, are covered without charge, but major surgery requires payment of a $6,000 to $12,000 deductible.




3. Aetna [stated], “This is a business decision based on higher-than-projected medical costs.... a second-quarter pretax loss of $200 million ..... we project will grow to in excess of $300 million by the end of the 2016.”

Insurance companies are making losses because fewer Americans are signing up for Obamacare than were predicted, and these Americans are sicker than average. Premiums rose in some markets by 20 percent in 2016, leading to more healthy people dropping out of plans or not enrolling, accelerating the financial imbalance. Premiums are expected to rise by a similar amount—or more—in 2017.

[Clearly, Obama is better suited to be President of Venezuela or Cuba than of America!]



4. The [failed] Obamacare model is not workable, .... It requires an expensive, comprehensive plan that obligates participants to purchase coverage for maternity care even if they have finished having children, pediatric dental care even if they are childless, mental health coverage even if they do not need it, and drug abuse coverage even if they have never taken any drugs.

5. People are not allowed to buy a simple plan that covers major illnesses such as heart disease, cancer, or falling off a bike in traffic. Furthermore, the deductibles—the amount that has to be spent before people can use the insurance—are so broad as to make coverage practically useless."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



Useless 'insurance,' passed wholly by the useless party.


"In reality, enrollment growth on the ACA exchanges has fallen far short of projections because uninsured middle-income Americans have largely decided that — despite the availability of subsidies and the penalty for not purchasing insurance — the insurance on offer is too expensive." Why Obamacare Is Failing at "Universal Coverage" | Yevgeniy Feyman




12. Oh....and by the way, Obama, and you, his voters, cost the nation a bundle:

"Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges The last remaining Obamacare exchanges are on the brink of collapse, and billions have been wasted on the ones that did fail. " Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges




Quite an achievement, huh?

.

Quite an achievement, huh?

saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards, what is the problem PC if what you believe were true with majorities in both chambers and the WH ... there must be something you are hiding (from) called the truth. and that at one time the ACA was endorsed by the pugs, its fun watching you all squirm and even more so leading up to the 2018 elections.

The Motley Fool

really, I hope you do not rely on them for any of your investments or - idiots beget idiots.

"...saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards,..."

Backwards from what?

Republicans provided healthcare for all in 1986.

Due, of course, to the forethought of the most successful President in a hundred years.

No, Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results.

And the only time I see any campaigns against religion are when religion oversteps its bounds, and demands state sponsorship, or the teaching of magical nonsense in science classrooms.

"Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results."


Gads, you're a dunce.

I can imagine the confetti parades we'd suffer through if the failure, Hussein Obama, had these numbers:

1. The benefits from Reaganomics:
   1. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
   2. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
   3. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
   4. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
   5. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) http://www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/tables10.html
   6. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116

b. and c. Kiva Lending Team: Team REAL Americans | Kiva



2. While the ranks of the wealthy quickly multiplied, middle-class investors also entered the stock market in rapidly growing numbers. The creation by Congress in 1978 of the 401(k) tax-deferred retirement plan provided new incentives for workers to invest their savings in the stock market (often through mutual funds) rather than relying on company-funded pensions for retirement. The 401(k) led to a kind of democratization of Wall Street, as the percentage of American households owning some stake in the stock market—either directly or through mutual funds—shot quickly from 15.9% in 1983 to 29.6% in 1989.23 Thus the great bull market of the 1980s created more wealth, for more American families, than any previous boom in history.

Investment Company Institute, "Equity Ownership in America, 2005," http://www.ici.org/pdf/rpt_05_equity_owners.pdf,

The Reagan Era Learning Guide: Citations



3. Instead.....there was this:

a. "Obamacare health insurance co-ops surged past the $1 billion mark in losses this week, making history of sorts.The insolvencies, totaling $1.36 billion, mean that the co-ops have burned through more than half of the original $2 billion appropriatedin 2010 for the program under the Affordable Care Act. The funds were loaned to the start-up co-ops in 2012 and were to be repaid in 15 years, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which manages Obamacare.


...13 of the 23 federally-financed Obamacare co-ops have officially failed in only two years. Most are in the process of default as insurance regulators attempt to pay customer’s medical bills, cover medical providers and pay other creditors.
Obamacare Co-Op Mess Causes $1.3 Billion In Losses


b. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth."Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire



c. ".... calculating how much the debt increased during Obama's two terms. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, it was $19.947 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other president."
How Much Did Obama Add to the Nation's Debt?

And spare us all your dopey fiction about the "forward thinking" of Reagan. By 1986, Reagan could barely remember what day it was. He had trouble looking forward to breakfast.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nothing beats the warm fuzzy feeling of battering the clueless....you.

"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool





"...the exchanges are on the brink of collapse. Major insurers are quitting, premiums are skyrocketing, enrollment is below expectations, and the administration is taking increasingly desperate measures to paper over the problems. By this time next year, the exchanges could be out of business."
Read more at: More Duct Tape Won’t Save Obamacare’s Collapsing Exchanges



"Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts"
Enrollment in the insurance exchanges for President Obama’s signature health-care law is at less than half the initial forecast, pushing several major insurance companies to stop offering health plans in certain markets because of significant financial losses."
Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts


"For 2016, the average deductible for singles for the lowest-cost bronze plan is $5,700, and for families, it is $12,000.


Obamacare is collapsing as health insurance companies continue to withdraw from the exchanges.
Congress will either convert Obamacare into a public plan—such as Medicare for all—or repeal it altogether."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



1. "American consumers figured out from the beginning that Obamacare wasn’t worth buying. Now insurance companies are wising up. Aetna is withdrawing from Obamacare exchanges in 11 states, following United Healthcare Group’s decision last April to leave 34 states.



2. In a well-functioning insurance market, such as for automobile accidents, insurance carriers craft countless plans to meet exactly the needs of millions of different individuals. Typically, only catastrophic unexpected events are covered, not the predictable oil changes. Automobile insurance is real insurance, and automobile owners as well as insurance companies eagerly participate.

Not so for Obamacare, which is not insurance at all. Under Obamacare annual physicals, which are predictable and routine, are covered without charge, but major surgery requires payment of a $6,000 to $12,000 deductible.




3. Aetna [stated], “This is a business decision based on higher-than-projected medical costs.... a second-quarter pretax loss of $200 million ..... we project will grow to in excess of $300 million by the end of the 2016.”

Insurance companies are making losses because fewer Americans are signing up for Obamacare than were predicted, and these Americans are sicker than average. Premiums rose in some markets by 20 percent in 2016, leading to more healthy people dropping out of plans or not enrolling, accelerating the financial imbalance. Premiums are expected to rise by a similar amount—or more—in 2017.

[Clearly, Obama is better suited to be President of Venezuela or Cuba than of America!]



4. The [failed] Obamacare model is not workable, .... It requires an expensive, comprehensive plan that obligates participants to purchase coverage for maternity care even if they have finished having children, pediatric dental care even if they are childless, mental health coverage even if they do not need it, and drug abuse coverage even if they have never taken any drugs.

5. People are not allowed to buy a simple plan that covers major illnesses such as heart disease, cancer, or falling off a bike in traffic. Furthermore, the deductibles—the amount that has to be spent before people can use the insurance—are so broad as to make coverage practically useless."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



Useless 'insurance,' passed wholly by the useless party.


"In reality, enrollment growth on the ACA exchanges has fallen far short of projections because uninsured middle-income Americans have largely decided that — despite the availability of subsidies and the penalty for not purchasing insurance — the insurance on offer is too expensive." Why Obamacare Is Failing at "Universal Coverage" | Yevgeniy Feyman




12. Oh....and by the way, Obama, and you, his voters, cost the nation a bundle:

"Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges The last remaining Obamacare exchanges are on the brink of collapse, and billions have been wasted on the ones that did fail. " Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges




Quite an achievement, huh?

.

Quite an achievement, huh?

saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards, what is the problem PC if what you believe were true with majorities in both chambers and the WH ... there must be something you are hiding (from) called the truth. and that at one time the ACA was endorsed by the pugs, its fun watching you all squirm and even more so leading up to the 2018 elections.

The Motley Fool

really, I hope you do not rely on them for any of your investments or - idiots beget idiots.

"...saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards,..."

Backwards from what?

Republicans provided healthcare for all in 1986.

Due, of course, to the forethought of the most successful President in a hundred years.

No, Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results.

And the only time I see any campaigns against religion are when religion oversteps its bounds, and demands state sponsorship, or the teaching of magical nonsense in science classrooms.

"Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results."


Gads, you're a dunce.

I can imagine the confetti parades we'd suffer through if the failure, Hussein Obama, had these numbers:

1. The benefits from Reaganomics:
   1. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
   2. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
   3. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
   4. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
   5. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) http://www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/tables10.html
   6. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116

b. and c. Kiva Lending Team: Team REAL Americans | Kiva



2. While the ranks of the wealthy quickly multiplied, middle-class investors also entered the stock market in rapidly growing numbers. The creation by Congress in 1978 of the 401(k) tax-deferred retirement plan provided new incentives for workers to invest their savings in the stock market (often through mutual funds) rather than relying on company-funded pensions for retirement. The 401(k) led to a kind of democratization of Wall Street, as the percentage of American households owning some stake in the stock market—either directly or through mutual funds—shot quickly from 15.9% in 1983 to 29.6% in 1989.23 Thus the great bull market of the 1980s created more wealth, for more American families, than any previous boom in history.

Investment Company Institute, "Equity Ownership in America, 2005," http://www.ici.org/pdf/rpt_05_equity_owners.pdf,

The Reagan Era Learning Guide: Citations



3. Instead.....there was this:

a. "Obamacare health insurance co-ops surged past the $1 billion mark in losses this week, making history of sorts.The insolvencies, totaling $1.36 billion, mean that the co-ops have burned through more than half of the original $2 billion appropriatedin 2010 for the program under the Affordable Care Act. The funds were loaned to the start-up co-ops in 2012 and were to be repaid in 15 years, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which manages Obamacare.


...13 of the 23 federally-financed Obamacare co-ops have officially failed in only two years. Most are in the process of default as insurance regulators attempt to pay customer’s medical bills, cover medical providers and pay other creditors.
Obamacare Co-Op Mess Causes $1.3 Billion In Losses


b. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth."Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire



c. ".... calculating how much the debt increased during Obama's two terms. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, it was $19.947 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other president."
How Much Did Obama Add to the Nation's Debt?

I was speaking specifically of your stupid idea that making it illegal to turn people away is equivalent to providing "healthcare for all". It isn't, of course, and what a stupid idea that is. really, contrived, manufactured garbage. And his policies directly led to the explosion in costs and premiums, with medical bankruptcies being the number one cause of bankruptcy today.

(sigh......) If only there was an honest Liberal....

1986 marked the mandate of healthcare for all.
Stop lying.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). ... The cost of emergency care required by EMTALA is not directly covered by the federal government.
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia


Waiting for that chimera.....a Liberal who doesn't lie.

I'm sure there'll be one along any day now.....

....any day......


....any......

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nothing beats the warm fuzzy feeling of battering the clueless....you.

"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool





"...the exchanges are on the brink of collapse. Major insurers are quitting, premiums are skyrocketing, enrollment is below expectations, and the administration is taking increasingly desperate measures to paper over the problems. By this time next year, the exchanges could be out of business."
Read more at: More Duct Tape Won’t Save Obamacare’s Collapsing Exchanges



"Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts"
Enrollment in the insurance exchanges for President Obama’s signature health-care law is at less than half the initial forecast, pushing several major insurance companies to stop offering health plans in certain markets because of significant financial losses."
Health-care exchange sign-ups fall far short of forecasts


"For 2016, the average deductible for singles for the lowest-cost bronze plan is $5,700, and for families, it is $12,000.


Obamacare is collapsing as health insurance companies continue to withdraw from the exchanges.
Congress will either convert Obamacare into a public plan—such as Medicare for all—or repeal it altogether."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



1. "American consumers figured out from the beginning that Obamacare wasn’t worth buying. Now insurance companies are wising up. Aetna is withdrawing from Obamacare exchanges in 11 states, following United Healthcare Group’s decision last April to leave 34 states.



2. In a well-functioning insurance market, such as for automobile accidents, insurance carriers craft countless plans to meet exactly the needs of millions of different individuals. Typically, only catastrophic unexpected events are covered, not the predictable oil changes. Automobile insurance is real insurance, and automobile owners as well as insurance companies eagerly participate.

Not so for Obamacare, which is not insurance at all. Under Obamacare annual physicals, which are predictable and routine, are covered without charge, but major surgery requires payment of a $6,000 to $12,000 deductible.




3. Aetna [stated], “This is a business decision based on higher-than-projected medical costs.... a second-quarter pretax loss of $200 million ..... we project will grow to in excess of $300 million by the end of the 2016.”

Insurance companies are making losses because fewer Americans are signing up for Obamacare than were predicted, and these Americans are sicker than average. Premiums rose in some markets by 20 percent in 2016, leading to more healthy people dropping out of plans or not enrolling, accelerating the financial imbalance. Premiums are expected to rise by a similar amount—or more—in 2017.

[Clearly, Obama is better suited to be President of Venezuela or Cuba than of America!]



4. The [failed] Obamacare model is not workable, .... It requires an expensive, comprehensive plan that obligates participants to purchase coverage for maternity care even if they have finished having children, pediatric dental care even if they are childless, mental health coverage even if they do not need it, and drug abuse coverage even if they have never taken any drugs.

5. People are not allowed to buy a simple plan that covers major illnesses such as heart disease, cancer, or falling off a bike in traffic. Furthermore, the deductibles—the amount that has to be spent before people can use the insurance—are so broad as to make coverage practically useless."
An Insurance Giant Has Rung Obamacare's Death Knell | Diana Furchtgott-Roth



Useless 'insurance,' passed wholly by the useless party.


"In reality, enrollment growth on the ACA exchanges has fallen far short of projections because uninsured middle-income Americans have largely decided that — despite the availability of subsidies and the penalty for not purchasing insurance — the insurance on offer is too expensive." Why Obamacare Is Failing at "Universal Coverage" | Yevgeniy Feyman




12. Oh....and by the way, Obama, and you, his voters, cost the nation a bundle:

"Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges The last remaining Obamacare exchanges are on the brink of collapse, and billions have been wasted on the ones that did fail. " Trainwreck: Billions Have Been Wasted On Failed Obamacare Exchanges




Quite an achievement, huh?

.

Quite an achievement, huh?

saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards, what is the problem PC if what you believe were true with majorities in both chambers and the WH ... there must be something you are hiding (from) called the truth. and that at one time the ACA was endorsed by the pugs, its fun watching you all squirm and even more so leading up to the 2018 elections.

The Motley Fool

really, I hope you do not rely on them for any of your investments or - idiots beget idiots.

"...saturday is the deadline for the reactionaries to take their giant step backwards,..."

Backwards from what?

Republicans provided healthcare for all in 1986.

Due, of course, to the forethought of the most successful President in a hundred years.

No, Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results.

And the only time I see any campaigns against religion are when religion oversteps its bounds, and demands state sponsorship, or the teaching of magical nonsense in science classrooms.

"Republicans provided a way to ruin people's economic futures in 1986, as evidenced by the results."


Gads, you're a dunce.

I can imagine the confetti parades we'd suffer through if the failure, Hussein Obama, had these numbers:

1. The benefits from Reaganomics:
   1. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
   2. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
   3. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
   4. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
   5. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) http://www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/tables10.html
   6. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116

b. and c. Kiva Lending Team: Team REAL Americans | Kiva



2. While the ranks of the wealthy quickly multiplied, middle-class investors also entered the stock market in rapidly growing numbers. The creation by Congress in 1978 of the 401(k) tax-deferred retirement plan provided new incentives for workers to invest their savings in the stock market (often through mutual funds) rather than relying on company-funded pensions for retirement. The 401(k) led to a kind of democratization of Wall Street, as the percentage of American households owning some stake in the stock market—either directly or through mutual funds—shot quickly from 15.9% in 1983 to 29.6% in 1989.23 Thus the great bull market of the 1980s created more wealth, for more American families, than any previous boom in history.

Investment Company Institute, "Equity Ownership in America, 2005," http://www.ici.org/pdf/rpt_05_equity_owners.pdf,

The Reagan Era Learning Guide: Citations



3. Instead.....there was this:

a. "Obamacare health insurance co-ops surged past the $1 billion mark in losses this week, making history of sorts.The insolvencies, totaling $1.36 billion, mean that the co-ops have burned through more than half of the original $2 billion appropriatedin 2010 for the program under the Affordable Care Act. The funds were loaned to the start-up co-ops in 2012 and were to be repaid in 15 years, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which manages Obamacare.


...13 of the 23 federally-financed Obamacare co-ops have officially failed in only two years. Most are in the process of default as insurance regulators attempt to pay customer’s medical bills, cover medical providers and pay other creditors.
Obamacare Co-Op Mess Causes $1.3 Billion In Losses


b. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth."Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire



c. ".... calculating how much the debt increased during Obama's two terms. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, it was $19.947 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other president."
How Much Did Obama Add to the Nation's Debt?

And spare us all your dopey fiction about the "forward thinking" of Reagan. By 1986, Reagan could barely remember what day it was. He had trouble looking forward to breakfast.

Every time I begin a post to one of you morons I feel like mommy preparing to give the-birds-and-the-bees lecture to little children.



Reagan....provided a golden economic age....

...and ended the Evil Empire without firing a shot.



I note that you've retreated from discussing our individual educational backgrounds...
First smart thing you've done today.

 

[toobfreak]

...is a repudiation of the very basis of the founding of this nation.

The Hard Left has their religion, just that they don't believe in a higher being, they think the world begins and ends just with them. They are a god all unto themselves. They know everything and are just never wrong by dint of their Special Superiority.

 

[PoliticalChic]

...is a repudiation of the very basis of the founding of this nation.

The Hard Left has their religion, just that they don't believe in a higher being, they think the world begins and ends just with them. They are a god all unto themselves. They know everything and are just never wrong by dint of their Special Superiority.

Nothing to dispute in your post.....but I would like to amplify some of it.

1. This from the progenitors of the modern Liberals...
There is no God:
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism." If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses.

When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor. The Schwarz Report | Essays


2. But....they do have their own 'god.'
Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief