The Aftermath of the Trial

[Oldstyle]

Given that GZ didn't commit any crime leading up to the killing, I would have to argue that he was completely innocent. Should he not have followed Martin? Maybe not. But to say he "isn't innocent" is disingenuous. I sat through three weeks of watching the trial via stream, I saw all of the evidence, just as the jury did.

You know what I came away with? George Zimmerman is not without his flaws, but he was a noble man. He served his community, served as the go to guy for kids needing role models in life. The last thing he wanted to do was kill someone. He may have been a bit overzealous in his actions on that night, but as I can tell he still went by the book. He was headed back to his vehicle.

Trayvon Martin on the other hand, was portrayed by the media as some angel, a treasure of humanity. Well what I saw in that trial was a (pardon my language) thug. There was evidence that did not get submitted which showed him holding a gun. I can't dismiss the pot usage either. I grew up thinking doing drugs were wrong. His propensity for getting into fights was strong. He was almost a grown man, Wake. He was taught the differences between right and wrong, but still in spite of that made his deadly choice.

In situations like these, there is no gray area. There is right and wrong, life and death, guilt and innocence, justice and injustice. An exception may be race, since we are all human. We are all caught making assumptions. But as I sat through that trial with "rapt" attention, I put the puzzle together. There is no place in this for emotion, since Sabryna and Tracy will never get their son back. Zimmerman will never be able to return any semblance of normalcy back to his life.

I concur that this is not a game. But I leapt for joy when the proper verdict was read. I thought to myself, "is it wrong to celebrate the exoneration of an oft and erroneously vilified figure?" No, I don't believe so. I wanted the media to eat crow. And so they did. I wanted justice to be done, and so it was. For those in America who seek to exact vengeance on innocent people all for the verdict, they should indeed be ashamed of themselves.

This "No Justice, No Peace" rationale is disturbing. Dr. King would be absolutely appalled by what this nation has become. His dream has been turned into a nightmare by the likes of the media and of Al Sharpton. The shame in all of this, is that even now if King were still alive, his brand, his ideology, his pragmatism... would not fit into the agenda of those on the left or on the right. It would not meld with the race baiting tactics some use to label others.

One wonders what Dr. King would think about people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson turning civil rights into highly compensated "careers". My guess is that he'd be appalled.

 

[Redfish]

If Zimmerman had been black or Martin white, this case would never have gotten any media attention and probably would have been thrown out by the grand jury for lack of evidence.

This case was a media creation encouraged by our racist president and his racist atty general.

Its all part of the leftist agenda to divide the country by race, sex, age, income, ethnicity, location, and anything else they can come up with. A divided nation is much easier to conquer---and make no mistake, the left is trying to conquer the USA and turn it into a copy of failed european socialism.

Obama's agenda is even more dangerous. He and his wife are determined to punish this nation for its past successes (that they wrongly think were at the expense of someone else) and to get even for slavery and the discriminations of the past.

Its really really sad because as the first black president he could have been a real uniter.

MLK is crying as he watches his dream evaporate to the marxist collectivists that currently run the country.

 

[PoliticalChic]

George Zimmerman did not take his beating like a good little white guy. Instead he went all cholo and tapped Martin's ass.

He's okay when he's winning..like when he beat his fiancee. Not sure what happened when Zimmerman went thug on a cop.

But it seems he picked a fight with the wrong kid and had to pussy out and pull a gun.

That might be heroic for some conservatives.

"he picked a fight with the wrong kid..."

...just as Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman tried to kill poor OJ.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

I have lots of qualms on this case. Zimmerman made lots of mistakes :

The most serious one : play the vigilante on a suspect, based on no evidence.

It all went wrong when he left the vehicle. They fought , Martin had the upper hand and Gorge answered firing his weapon ( hell , why didn't he carry a tasser for god's sake ).

At the end it was self defense. But if he hadn't taken the vigilante attitude and waited for the police both of them would be alive and well. So it's a real tragedy.

Life inprisionment is too harsh for his imprudence . But walking away with no punisment at all seems wrong too.

Since Zimmerman seems to be a law abidding citizen therefore a sentence of social work seems appropiate for me .

"They fought ,"


There's you problem, right there.

 

[Redfish]

George Zimmerman did not take his beating like a good little white guy. Instead he went all cholo and tapped Martin's ass.

He's okay when he's winning..like when he beat his fiancee. Not sure what happened when Zimmerman went thug on a cop.

But it seems he picked a fight with the wrong kid and had to pussy out and pull a gun.

That might be heroic for some conservatives.

Sallow's comment shows EXACTLY what's been done to George Zimmerman from the onset of this case! There is ZERO proof that George Zimmerman ever "beat" his fiancee. NONE! Yet, Sallow continues to make the charge. Same thing with the charge that Zimmerman went "thug" on a cop. The truth is that George Zimmerman pushed away the arm of an undercover officer...that's the extent of his going thug! Such a minor thing that the charge was changed to a misdemeanor.

That's what's been done to George Zimmerman from the start of this case.

He didn't "pick a fight" with Trayvon Martin. Trayvon Martin picked a fight with him. George Zimmerman isn't an aggressive person. He just isn't. He's the guy that takes a boxing class for over a year at his gym but is so bad at it that the instructor still has him punching a heavy bag and won't let him in the ring because he's concerned Zimmerman will get hurt.

I am sure that by now you have realized that sallow is nothing but a bitter talking point parrot. he is not worthy of wasting any of your time on. pay him no mind. he is an idiot.

 

[A_LittleFeisty]

You can have all the Pointy Headed Intellectual Discussions you want but the whole point of this Trial was to start a Race War so that Martial Law can be implemented. I don't know why Whites haven't fought back, I guess they're even wimpier and more beat down than I had thought.

I look at it this way. When there is a hate crime committed against a white person the DOJ will not even look at it. They will only look at hate crimes that a white commits agents a minority. This is sending a message to white people that they need to walk on eggshells. The reason I say walking on eggshells is because a lot of white people are afraid to say the wrong thing because they could be labeled as a raciest just because someone was not happy with something you said. I will give you a real good example. One of the girls I worked with brought in some vacation pictures, we were all looking at them and enjoying the stories behind them. She showed a picture of her mother and her on the beach. I made a comment " I am so jealous the 2 of you have such a beautiful tan." I thought it was an innocent comment. The girl took my comment to HR and I was brought up on racial charges. There was no way for me to fight it. No matter what I said I was wrong. I asked why it was wrong to say someone had a great tan. I was told that I had to guard my words and actions because what I said was taken as offensive by the other girl.

 

[thanatos144]

George was innocent and yes being found not guilty means that in a self defense case. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with stand your ground and to insert that in this shows the truth about the agenda...The agenda being nothing about this young black man acting stupid and everything about using his body to push against a law that is used MOSTLY by black people.

 

[wavingrl]

Looks interesting. I'll be back later.

Dividing my time between the prolific weeds and the internet.

 

[Derideo_Te]

In the end the American Injustice system failed in my opinion. It would have been as much of an injustice to put away a gun toting fool like GZ behind bars for decades as it was to find him entirely not guilty. He acted stupidly and now an innocent person is dead. For there to be no penalty at all for that is morally and ethically wrong and a complete travesty of justice. That is my 2 cents worth on this sordid affair.

 

[TemplarKormac]

George Zimmerman did not take his beating like a good little white guy. Instead he went all cholo and tapped Martin's ass.

He's okay when he's winning..like when he beat his fiancee. Not sure what happened when Zimmerman went thug on a cop.

But it seems he picked a fight with the wrong kid and had to pussy out and pull a gun.

That might be heroic for some conservatives.

Those charges were dropped. There was a mutual restraining order placed by the both of them.

Despite everything you've heard and seen, you make these prevaricated contentions. I would wager since you are anti-Gun that if you were in a similar situation, you would either be in critical condition from the pounding you took, or dead.

For liberals, lying is heroic. The truth dare not show it's face.

 

[testarosa]

George Zimmerman did not take his beating like a good little white guy. Instead he went all cholo and tapped Martin's ass.

He's okay when he's winning..like when he beat his fiancee. Not sure what happened when Zimmerman went thug on a cop.

But it seems he picked a fight with the wrong kid and had to pussy out and pull a gun.

That might be heroic for some conservatives.

That wasn't a very constructive response to the OP, Teeth. I'll demonstrate a constructive response for ya when I get back from weekend boat and mojitos.

I'm on injustice overload... Looking at you Eric Holder.

 

[thanatos144]

In the end the American Injustice system failed in my opinion. It would have been as much of an injustice to put away a gun toting fool like GZ behind bars for decades as it was to find him entirely not guilty. He acted stupidly and now an innocent person is dead. For there to be no penalty at all for that is morally and ethically wrong and a complete travesty of justice. That is my 2 cents worth on this sordid affair.

Other then Trayvin being black and you can use him to make yourself seem better then the rest why do you care?

 

[testarosa]

I did not follow this trial at all, I read a little bit about it after the verdict.

Race is not the issue, Media is. There are cases similar to this that never get media coverage regardless of race, gender or sexual preference.

The Jury did it's job.

Stereotyping a behavior based on race is simplistic when you have other factors that contribute to behavior such as Media manipulation and class differences.

People of all races behave differently depending on socio-economic class of the environment they live in.

You may want to get Al and Jesse on the horn about that race not being the issue thing.

 

[Katzndogz]

obama just doubled down on stupid. "Trayvon Martin could have been me". Is he admitting to being a street thug, or what?

 

[TemplarKormac]

obama just doubled down on stupid. "Trayvon Martin could have been me". Is he admitting to being a street thug, or what?

He mentioned how the family of Trayvon Martin "handled this with dignity and grace." I'm sorry, how ignorant can one person be?

 

[Gadawg73]

Any time the power and the vast resources of government are used against someone because of public and media pressure instead of probable cause through an indictment from a grand jury of citizens and the facts and evidence show an abuse of those prosecutorial powers was used every freedom loving citizen should be jubilant a common citizen like Zimmerman has prevailed against the tyranny of the state.

 

[Vox]

In the end the American Injustice system failed in my opinion. It would have been as much of an injustice to put away a gun toting fool like GZ behind bars for decades as it was to find him entirely not guilty. He acted stupidly and now an innocent person is dead. For there to be no penalty at all for that is morally and ethically wrong and a complete travesty of justice. That is my 2 cents worth on this sordid affair.

Tell me when and where progressives are going to start protesting against mandatory sentencing.

oh, they are not? that is what I thought.

 

[Gadawg73]

I can not fault the Martin family for anything.
Emotions get high when you lose a child even if he was not a model child.
Just as the entire case against Zimmerman was rank speculation everything we may think and believe about the Martin family is the same.
Peace to them as they appear to be good people.
Normal folk want heads on platters when their child is shot and killed self defense or not.

 

[testarosa]

obama just doubled down on stupid. "Trayvon Martin could have been me". Is he admitting to being a street thug, or what?

He did! What the fuck?

Stupid layered upon stupid. The guy doesn't know when the hell to stfu.

Someone tell me what their motivation is if it is not to incite this divide as far as they can make it go. Guns and race all on the back of one incident that was not even a racial incident.

Political agenda at it's most despicable. At least put a little cover on it so it's not so transparent and offensive.

Kiss a couple freedoms goodbye.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

However, being presumed not guilty doesn't make one innocent.

One is NOT presumed "not guilty."

One is PRESUMED INNOCENT.

And that presumption remains intact after the State tries you and fails to sustain its burden of proof.

It is true that a person acquitted might nevertheless have done the deed. Take OJ the double murderer, for example.

But OJ was acquitted DESPITE the clear compelling PROOF of his guilt.

Zimmerman, by contrast, was acquitted because there was simply NO proof of his guilt.

That is not a subtle difference.

OJ was guilty but acquitted. Zimmerman was innocent AND acquitted.