The Aftermath of the Trial

[PredFan]

Putting my opinion on this, and some of it might agree, some might not.

But, George Zimmerman is a racist!

No. Anyone who is honest would know that he is not.

George Zimmerman is innocent.

Yes, he is. we are all innocent until proven guilty. Not only did the prosecution fail to prove he was lying, all of the forensic evidence and much of the testimony from witnesses and expert witnesses, even those for the prosecution, support Zimmerman's story.

It's open season on black boys and men.

It might be. 11,000 black men have been killed since Trayvon Martin died. The overwhelming majority have been killed by other black men. Maybe there is.

Why all of the gloating and jubilation?

My gloating is directed at the liberals who wanted to lynch GZ from the very start. Before they had any knowledge of the case at all. And there are still so many who refuse to educate themselves. That isn't disgusting at all.

The true villains in this story.

You are correct. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are the villains in this story. They are the villains in any story they inject their racist asses in.

George Zimmerman made no mistakes.

Correct.

Trayvon Martin was just an unarmed black kid with Skittles.

Yes, an unarmed black kid who committed felonious assault and got shot for it.


He was just a punk.

Yeah, he was.

The jury was racist.

Absurd.

Who doesn't like mocking this thug?

It isn't mocking him to point out the facts.

George Zimmerman did nothing but tell the truth.

I have no doubt that he told the truth to the best of his ability. On the night it happened, a Sanford detective investigating the shooting lied to Zimmerman saying: "You know we have a security camera video that recorded the whole thing so we will know if you are lying." Zimmerman's response was: "Thank God!"


We have to get rid of the Stand Your Ground law.

People who say this are either: 1. Ignorant of the facts, 2. Ignorant of the law, 3. Following in the footsteps of the corrupt politicians and using this incident to attack the rights of innocent Americans. Probably all three.

Black people are just violent and stupid.

Really? Is anyone saying that? I doubt more than one fringe nutjob.



Retaliation.

This is just an excuse to act out and destroy things.


A call for peace.

You'd have to demand that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Barack Hussein Obama, and Eric Holder shut up. Not going to happen.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Putting my opinion on this, and some of it might agree, some might not.

But, George Zimmerman is a racist!

No. Anyone who is honest would know that he is not.

George Zimmerman is innocent.

Yes, he is. we are all innocent until proven guilty. Not only did the prosecution fail to prove he was lying, all of the forensic evidence and much of the testimony from witnesses and expert witnesses, even those for the prosecution, support Zimmerman's story.

It's open season on black boys and men.

It might be. 11,000 black men have been killed since Trayvon Martin died. The overwhelming majority have been killed by other black men. Maybe there is.

Why all of the gloating and jubilation?

My gloating is directed at the liberals who wanted to lynch GZ from the very start. Before they had any knowledge of the case at all. And there are still so many who refuse to educate themselves. That isn't disgusting at all.

The true villains in this story.

You are correct. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are the villains in this story. They are the villains in any story they inject their racist asses in.

George Zimmerman made no mistakes.

Correct.

Trayvon Martin was just an unarmed black kid with Skittles.

Yes, an unarmed black kid who committed felonious assault and got shot for it.


He was just a punk.

Yeah, he was.

The jury was racist.

Absurd.

Who doesn't like mocking this thug?

It isn't mocking him to point out the facts.

George Zimmerman did nothing but tell the truth.

I have no doubt that he told the truth to the best of his ability. On the night it happened, a Sanford detective investigating the shooting lied to Zimmerman saying: "You know we have a security camera video that recorded the whole thing so we will know if you are lying." Zimmerman's response was: "Thank God!"


We have to get rid of the Stand Your Ground law.

People who say this are either: 1. Ignorant of the facts, 2. Ignorant of the law, 3. Following in the footsteps of the corrupt politicians and using this incident to attack the rights of innocent Americans. Probably all three.

Black people are just violent and stupid.

Really? Is anyone saying that? I doubt more than one fringe nutjob.



Retaliation.

This is just an excuse to act out and destroy things.


A call for peace.

You'd have to demand that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Barack Hussein Obama, and Eric Holder shut up. Not going to happen.

^^^^^

 

[freedombecki]

You can have all the Pointy Headed Intellectual Discussions you want but the whole point of this Trial was to start a Race War so that Martial Law can be implemented. I don't know why Whites haven't fought back, I guess they're even wimpier and more beat down than I had thought.

That's hardly the case. People are trying to make a living. They've had their taxes raised, health insurance costs throuogh the roof, gasoline prices tripled with no end in sight, the national debt going higher than planetary probes, and Bill of Rights attacked, their religion dissed, threats to implement another religion's tenets in this hemisphere, and threats to have American children exposed to adult European sex mores, attitudes, etc. People are cross at the government and they're mad. But they have to pay their bills because they haven't been spoonfed taking something for nothing their whole lives, and now, it's working against them by those who haven't, and paying through the roof for other people's abortions, multiple illegitimate babies, and prisoner/government bureaucrat sex changes is going down worse than raw rotted liver. Bleah!

 

[tyroneweaver]

pre trial I wondered why if zimmerman called 911 and the calvary was on the way why he couldn't hold out a little longer until help arrived


post trial: with the involvement of obama and holder I am thrilled at the verdict.

 

[freedombecki]

The Zimmerman verdict represents a devolution of the justice system and a return to the notion that "lynching" is okay. This might even become the lynchpin of a second civil rights movement

This had nothing to do with lynching, except for what Trayvon told Zimmerman he was going to do--kill him for watching him case houses.

The police said it was self defense based on the wounds matching up to Zimmerman's testimony to them of the events leading up to the fatal shooting. The police forensics specialist also said Trayvon was the party on top due to the blousing of his clothing while beating Zimmerman up when he was down.

The interference of Sharpton and Jackson was not appreciated, but the defense placated them by pretending it was a racially-based hate crime, which was as far from the truth as one of Barack Obama's promises that never materializes although higher gas prices and taxes do.

Grrrrrr!

 

[Michelle420]

I did not follow this trial at all, I read a little bit about it after the verdict.

Race is not the issue, Media is. There are cases similar to this that never get media coverage regardless of race, gender or sexual preference.

The Jury did it's job.

Stereotyping a behavior based on race is simplistic when you have other factors that contribute to behavior such as Media manipulation and class differences.

People of all races behave differently depending on socio-economic class of the environment they live in.

You may want to get Al and Jesse on the horn about that race not being the issue thing.

No Need, the media makes a profit for showcasing divisions in class, race, gender and sexuality it's a big business. All I have to do is not buy into it, pretty simple.

 

[Ernie S.]

I have lots of qualms on this case. Zimmerman made lots of mistakes :

The most serious one : play the vigilante on a suspect, based on no evidence.

It all went wrong when he left the vehicle. They fought , Martin had the upper hand and Gorge answered firing his weapon ( hell , why didn't he carry a tasser for god's sake ).

At the end it was self defense. But if he hadn't taken the vigilante attitude and waited for the police both of them would be alive and well. So it's a real tragedy.

Life inprisionment is too harsh for his imprudence . But walking away with no punisment at all seems wrong too.

Since Zimmerman seems to be a law abidding citizen therefore a sentence of social work seems appropiate for me .

Yet you place all the blame on Zimmerman. Typical Lib. If Martin had simply gone home and not assaulted Zimmerman, he'd be alive. Had Martin not done things that got him suspended from school, he would not have been in Sanford.

But it's Zim's fault for carrying a firearm. OK.

 

[hortysir]

Really can't speak to the OP, as he has literally said every point I like to be brought to the discussion

 

[hortysir]

The Zimmerman verdict represents a devolution of the justice system and a return to the notion that "lynching" is okay. This might even become the lynchpin of a second civil rights movement

You're absolutely right, Sallow.

The media and a portion of our population WERE out to lynch Zimmerman.
Good of you to pint that out

 

[thanatos144]

we all must remember the progressives don't care about this dead young man.. they only care that they have the ability to use him to take more freedoms from us. namely stand your ground a law used in Florida mostly by the black, population and with a 55 percent success rate

 

[The Rabbi]

pre trial I wondered why if zimmerman called 911 and the calvary was on the way why he couldn't hold out a little longer until help arrived


post trial: with the involvement of obama and holder I am thrilled at the verdict.

You mean allow his head to be bashed in a few times more? How many times would you like your head bashed on the sidewalk before you've had enough?

 

[CultureCitizen]

Yet you place all the blame on Zimmerman. Typical Lib. If Martin had simply gone home and not assaulted Zimmerman, he'd be alive. Had Martin not done things that got him suspended from school, he would not have been in Sanford.

But it's Zim's fault for carrying a firearm. OK.

Not for carying it : for playing the vigilante without propper trainning , and getting into a fist fight that cost the life of another person. Hell , the police was just 1 minute away .

And yes ... what an evil lot we liberls are : social service in exchange for his imprudence.

 

[Pop23]

I wonder how those that want Zimmermans head served on a platter would respond if we change things up just slightly....

It's not George Zimmerman, but Georgia Zimmerman

Georgia is not a Male white Hispanic "cop wannabe", but a Female white Hispanic "cop wannabe"

Now, Georgia is confronted by this 17 year old male that punches her, breaks her nose, jumps on her and, instead of pounding her head against the concrete, starts ripping her clothes off. She fires the gun killing the young man.

None of us would be defending the young man as "just being a kid" and the President would not be saying either.....

If I had a son he would look like him, nor

35 years ago that could have been me.

Yet, in the above there was NO threat of death.....

 

[The Rabbi]

Yet you place all the blame on Zimmerman. Typical Lib. If Martin had simply gone home and not assaulted Zimmerman, he'd be alive. Had Martin not done things that got him suspended from school, he would not have been in Sanford.

But it's Zim's fault for carrying a firearm. OK.

Not for carying it : for playing the vigilante without propper trainning , and getting into a fist fight that cost the life of another person. Hell , the police was just 1 minute away .

And yes ... what an evil lot we liberls are : social service in exchange for his imprudence.

He did not "play the vigilante". That is another lie you should have been schooled on. He did not "get into a fist fight." He was sucker punched by Trayvon. I suppose next you'll say if Zimmerman had just moved his jaw out of the way of Trayvon's fist none of this would have happened.
Neg for gross stupidity and ignorance.

 

[A_LittleFeisty]

The problem we have is there is a lot of woulda coulda shoulda and if this and if that. The problem we have just is not going to be salved until the mud slinging is over and everyone involved sits down and talks about what happened and why it happened. There are many issues involved here and IMO they should have never been made public.

We do have some public matters at hand that need to be addressed. We need for everyone to see that we are all made equal. Yes some have more problems then others. The problems that we all have need to be solved by ourselves. If we all take our own problems and take responsibility for them and not blame someone for them we all would be in a better state.

You see Zimmerman made a mistake and the press got a hold of the story and changed some facts and/or did not report the complete truth in the matter. By them doing this it has gotten so many people upset because the facts that were reported were not true and complete.

 

[The Rabbi]

The problem we have is there is a lot of woulda coulda shoulda and if this and if that. The problem we have just is not going to be salved until the mud slinging is over and everyone involved sits down and talks about what happened and why it happened. There are many issues involved here and IMO they should have never been made public.

We do have some public matters at hand that need to be addressed. We need for everyone to see that we are all made equal. Yes some have more problems then others. The problems that we all have need to be solved by ourselves. If we all take our own problems and take responsibility for them and not blame someone for them we all would be in a better state.

You see Zimmerman made a mistake and the press got a hold of the story and changed some facts and/or did not report the complete truth in the matter. By them doing this it has gotten so many people upset because the facts that were reported were not true and complete.

What mistake did Zimmerman make? OTher than not shooting that asshole sooner?

 

[earlycuyler]

What you and the press, and especially the Trayvon supporters did not talk about was that Trayvon was a thug. Kicked out of school for fighting, caught with stolen items, acting like a gangsta online and on film---basically abborant behavior.

Imagine if there was even ONE shread of evidence of Zimmerman doing any of these similar bad things, he would have been crucified for them.

When people start holding everyone to the same behavioral standards, America can move forward. But that won't happen.

So then what was TM doing at the time that was abborant ?

 

[hoosier88]

The state of FL v. Zimmerman was/is a national Rorschach Test. Like the Mirror of Erised from the Harry Potter series, everyone seems to see what they want to see when they look into it.

What I see is a flawed investigation into a fatal shooting. The dead is an unarmed Black young man. The shooter is an armed Hispanic man, supposedly on Neighborhood Watch rounds, except that he's armed, he's following the subject he'd called in to the police, & he confronts the subject.

The sheriff was eventually released from his job. The sheriff apparently missed the potential interest in the case, he didn't collect all the forensic evidence immediately, he didn't protect the crime scene (for investigative purposes, you assume it's a crime scene), he didn't do blood draws on subject & shooter (for alcohol &/or drugs) immediately, @ the point that the forensic technicians bagged Martin's hoodie, they put it still wet into plastic & fungus ruined the evidence. I blame the sheriff for this case dragging out - better tradecraft & case work & we might have had a definitive answer as to whether the shooting was justified. In the actual case, Zimmerman was interviewed & released.

As it is, the state couldn't make the case that the shooting was unjustified. & so Zimmerman is not guilty, as the court requires in these cases.

I think there is & was a lot of hysteria all around. The shooting & verdict do not constitute the beginning of a race war - if that didn't happen in the '60s & '70s, then I doubt it's ever going to happen here. Nor are we headed back to the worst days of Jim Crow - that's over too.

The media can shoulder a lot of blame for the near-hysteria. Why anyone would listen to these (mostly) fat-headed chuckleheads who usually don't know the difference between an assault rifle & a machinegun & a submachine gun; or a Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle & an M1A1 Abrams tank & an engineering/recovery vehicle - is beyond me. It bears repeating - without the relevant experience as a reporter covering the crime beat, or covering the military long enough to become familiar with the equipment & tactics, most of our news anchors have nothing useful to say about the topic.

Other than my criticism of the police failure to implement what I understood to be police SOP, I don't have an opinion on the case. I see that the MSM & the various governmental units are still parsing What the meaning of it all is. Far as I can tell, There is no overarching meaning.

That seems to be a message that the MSM don't like much - they want a nice moral to cap the story with, as if this were an episode of CSI or one of the other police procedural TV series. But we're in a more Existential mode here - things happen, events tumble out of control, the least likely things seem to happen regardless of whatever odds we thought we knew. & then something else happens, & the MSM feeding frenzy is in full hue & cry to cover that. With the exact same breathless delivery, the cameras & mikes up close in the interviewee's face, the same lack of tact & thought.

The MSM reacts to events, like an action junkie looking for his next fix of adrenaline. There will always be a fire or explosion or some kid down a well or the missing little blonde girl du jour to go cover. It is foolish to expect any deep thoughts out of the MSM - that's not why they're there. They're there to provide eyecandy & attract eyeballs - which translate to numbers of watchers, which translates to money. That's all it is, don't look for meaning there, it's all the lowest common denominator & whatever fool thing they have to do to get you to watch.

 

[A_LittleFeisty]

The problem we have is there is a lot of woulda coulda shoulda and if this and if that. The problem we have just is not going to be salved until the mud slinging is over and everyone involved sits down and talks about what happened and why it happened. There are many issues involved here and IMO they should have never been made public.

We do have some public matters at hand that need to be addressed. We need for everyone to see that we are all made equal. Yes some have more problems then others. The problems that we all have need to be solved by ourselves. If we all take our own problems and take responsibility for them and not blame someone for them we all would be in a better state.

You see Zimmerman made a mistake and the press got a hold of the story and changed some facts and/or did not report the complete truth in the matter. By them doing this it has gotten so many people upset because the facts that were reported were not true and complete.

What mistake did Zimmerman make? OTher than not shooting that asshole sooner?

He did not ask TM if he needed help, or did not ask TM if he was in the area because he was visiting someone. Just by asking a simple question could have defused the whole matter. See here people that we don't know sometimes are waling around and just seem out of place. Everyone around here asks the person what there reason for be around is or asks if we could help them and no one even gets into a fight.

 

[thanatos144]

The problem we have is there is a lot of woulda coulda shoulda and if this and if that. The problem we have just is not going to be salved until the mud slinging is over and everyone involved sits down and talks about what happened and why it happened. There are many issues involved here and IMO they should have never been made public.

We do have some public matters at hand that need to be addressed. We need for everyone to see that we are all made equal. Yes some have more problems then others. The problems that we all have need to be solved by ourselves. If we all take our own problems and take responsibility for them and not blame someone for them we all would be in a better state.

You see Zimmerman made a mistake and the press got a hold of the story and changed some facts and/or did not report the complete truth in the matter. By them doing this it has gotten so many people upset because the facts that were reported were not true and complete.

What mistake did Zimmerman make? OTher than not shooting that asshole sooner?

He did not ask TM if he needed help, or did not ask TM if he was in the area because he was visiting someone. Just by asking a simple question could have defused the whole matter. See here people that we don't know sometimes are waling around and just seem out of place. Everyone around here asks the person what there reason for be around is or asks if we could help them and no one even gets into a fight.

he lost him he was walking back to the damn truck before tm confronted him and then brutally attacked him.