Xenophon
Gone and forgotten
The real sad thing is how many people claim he has 'ingretity' and say 'they admire him.'I wonder if he's proud of his accomplishment.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
The real sad thing is how many people claim he has 'ingretity' and say 'they admire him.'I wonder if he's proud of his accomplishment.
If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
And when we got there - we found out that Clinton had apparently achieved this goal, huh?
If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
And when we got there - we found out that Clinton had apparently achieved this goal, huh?
As the weapon inspectors were being kick out every other day
oh ..... you mean when our troops were allowed to examine everything and everywhere, they FOUND SOMETHING?????????????????????
I wonder if he's proud of his accomplishment.
IF we accept this premise is true, then Bush had 2 1/2 years to "fix" what was wrong with our intelligence.
Your claim also doesn't address intelligence doctoring which has been firmly established.
2 1/2 years of fixing something as covert as intelligence? It probably takes a decade or more to fix something like that.
I don't buy in the intell doctoring....can you give a nonbias source to what your stating? I ain't saying your wrong, but the only place where I heard it was MSNBC.
I found it myself...thank you.
So you're saying that 2 1/2 years are not enough to fix a single agency? So I guess, you're not buying the theory that Obama "owns" this war now, or that he "owns" this economy now?????
If 2 1/2 years isn't enough time to fix a single agency, then certainly 9 months isn't enough to fix a war and a broken economy?????????????????????????
Sorry, you are tripping over your own talking points.
The intelligence used to convince congress to go along with Bush on Iraq was wrong. No real debate there.
So it's clear that congress can't really be blamed for believing the bad intell. But can Bush be blamed? Unclear - was he aware of the intelligence doctoring or was it a Cheney operation that Bush was unaware of? I'll leave you all to debate those finer points. But it's clear to me that the "blame difusion" game is just that - a game.
Maybe you don't like the Democratic members of Congress - fair enough. Maybe you don't like the Republicans in Congress - also fair enough.
But trying to get Congress to accept a share of the blame for one of our nation's biggest screw-ups is simply not supported by any facts or evidence. Wishful thinking don't make it so ....
oh ..... you mean when our troops were allowed to examine everything and everywhere, they FOUND SOMETHING?????????????????????
actually, had he bothered to read Hans Blix's final report, he'd know that the issues of access had been worked out in advance of the invasion. Saddam was a blustering little dictator, but he wasn't stupid... and he didn't want to be bombed out of existence.
Show me where I have ever said that Obama owns the war? Show me one post where I have said that...if you can't, I will accept an apology. If you won't appologize then just STFU.
That's a question. If you can answer it without all the STFU crap - or claiming that I attempted to answer the question myself - that would be a lot more honest.So I guess, you're not buying the theory that Obama "owns" this war now, or that he "owns" this economy now?????
One thing YOU obviously don't understand is that I have posted MANY times that IMHO potus gets more credit than they deserve when the economy is rolling good and more blame than they deserve when the economy is poor. I believe that there are much bigger forces at work and have said so.One thing you don't understand is that it is a recession, they come and go, and always have with our economy, it's a natural cycle in the market.
SIX BOMBS, 95 DEAD - CARNAGE AND DESPAIR RETURN TO IRAQ...Hellish scenes as six bomb blasts rip through Baghdad leaving at least 95 dead and 536 wounded | Mail Online
You got your wish
well, all I know for sure is that this poster is dredging up a lot of quotes from Clinton (who I am no fan of) talking about how determined he was to dismantle the Iraq weapons of mass destruction program. And considering we didn't find any when we put the boots on the ground throughout the country, it would seem that Clinton achieved that goal.
"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998
As money and training was given to muslin terrorist all over the region and the WORLD.
Show me where I have ever said that Obama owns the war? Show me one post where I have said that...if you can't, I will accept an apology. If you won't appologize then just STFU.
Show me one quote where I claimed you DID say Obama owns the war or the economy and I will provide apology. Otherwise YOU apologize or STFU!
if you are reffering to:
That's a question. If you can answer it without all the STFU crap - or claiming that I attempted to answer the question myself - that would be a lot more honest.So I guess, you're not buying the theory that Obama "owns" this war now, or that he "owns" this economy now?????
One thing YOU obviously don't understand is that I have posted MANY times that IMHO potus gets more credit than they deserve when the economy is rolling good and more blame than they deserve when the economy is poor. I believe that there are much bigger forces at work and have said so.One thing you don't understand is that it is a recession, they come and go, and always have with our economy, it's a natural cycle in the market.
So tell you what - you stop making unfounded assumptions on what I "understand" and what I don't "understand", as well as what I have said and what I have not said and I will agree to do the same - WITHOUT all the STFU crap!
A lot of blame, but not aimed at the correct source.
The real culpret is Bush Senior, not junior.
He involved US forces in a landwar in Asia and refused to finish the job, instead he punted to the UN and the situation was never resolved.
Iraq and Afghanistan are not places the US should be in, in fact the only place the US should be in the US.
Back to the present day, if Iraqis want a country its up to them, frankly saying they were 'better off' under Saddam is like saying Jews were better off under Hitler, it just doesn't work. Life was ok in Iraq IF you were a Sunni and a baathist, if you were a Shia or some other party it sucked.
Bush jr made the wrong choice in 03, to save face he attacked, knowing the UN was giving up trying to police Saddam (the 'sanctions' were ending in 2004 and would not be renewed) Bush thought he could end the problem quickly and relitively cheaply. It was easy to take Iraq, but then the mistakes began, Bush sent Jay Gardner to Iraq to plan out what to do, and then ignored everything he recommended and instead appointed L Paul Bremer as imperial overlord. Things went downhill from their till Patreus came up with a COIN strategy that worked.
What goes on there now is their problem, they let foriegners into their country and they are the ones that have to do something about it.
We never should have been in the region in the first place, the 'liberation of Kuwait' was a UN deal, and as always happens when the UN is involved, things get worse instead of better.