Texas mocks California travel ban : Most of our new residents are from there

[gallantwarrior]

Texas fired back at California’s state-sponsored travel ban, with Attorney General Ken Paxton pointing out that most of the political refugees in Texas are actually from California.

Texas Mocks California Travel Ban: Most Our New Residents Are From There!
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Not only has the Obama been able to manipulate the public into all the bs they believe now, but it's carried over right on into Trump. All these idiots ANTIFA, BLM, GAY LIBERALS, TRANNY's..... FEMINIST ( radical ) etc, etc are the same bimbos who blame this bs on Trump when proof has it when not a zombie that Obama has created the biggest division in this Country now we have states acting like this and Texas hopefully will be damed before changing into some pathetic liberal nation like California is. They need to seperate from this Country that way the pos losers can all move there and GTF our of America the free.

They all hate Freedom, Rights, and Liberty why do you think they get off having a President who dictates what is right or wrong, and to stupid to see they use their wants and desire against them to keep them enslaved.

Good, all the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here, will find a home in Taxus making minimum wage.

God speed to the mediocre migrants to Taxus. Taxus was made for those who put their cars up on cinder blocks in the front yard and the thong wearers at Walmart.

the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here
you mean many of the retirees who paid taxes for years to the State but since retirement they cant afford to live there anymore?.........just asking....

No I mean the also-rans who couldn't make it.

The cost of living here is high no doubt. But people find a way rather than leave. A population of 40 million and growing attests to the fact people love California. I find even the people that bitch and moan about the politics here won't move because I've asked "why don't you move to a state you'd be happier in"? They always respond 'this is my home and almost anything you want to do is within a 3 hour drive. Mountains, coast, amusement parks, Napa Valley for wine. Honestly we've been hearing this "people are leaving California in droves" mantra for 20 years. Uh huh. The economy in CA is the size of Russia's economy, or the UK.

Want to go to Taxus or Florida? No problem, go. I'm not sure what all the whining about CA is about.

Amusing that you select two of seven states that levy no state income taxes (Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming) as targets for you rant. Even more hilarious, CA is one of five states (California, Connecticut, Nebraska, Rhode Island and Vermont) that permit no exemptions or credits for pension or retirement income if it is included in your federal adjusted gross income. Most other states have some form of exemption or adjustment for retirement income.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Texas fired back at California’s state-sponsored travel ban, with Attorney General Ken Paxton pointing out that most of the political refugees in Texas are actually from California.

Texas Mocks California Travel Ban: Most Our New Residents Are From There!
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Not only has the Obama been able to manipulate the public into all the bs they believe now, but it's carried over right on into Trump. All these idiots ANTIFA, BLM, GAY LIBERALS, TRANNY's..... FEMINIST ( radical ) etc, etc are the same bimbos who blame this bs on Trump when proof has it when not a zombie that Obama has created the biggest division in this Country now we have states acting like this and Texas hopefully will be damed before changing into some pathetic liberal nation like California is. They need to seperate from this Country that way the pos losers can all move there and GTF our of America the free.

They all hate Freedom, Rights, and Liberty why do you think they get off having a President who dictates what is right or wrong, and to stupid to see they use their wants and desire against them to keep them enslaved.

Good, all the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here, will find a home in Taxus making minimum wage.

God speed to the mediocre migrants to Taxus. Taxus was made for those who put their cars up on cinder blocks in the front yard and the thong wearers at Walmart.

the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here
you mean many of the retirees who paid taxes for years to the State but since retirement they cant afford to live there anymore?.........just asking....

No I mean the also-rans who couldn't make it.

The cost of living here is high no doubt. But people find a way rather than leave. A population of 40 million and growing attests to the fact people love California. I find even the people that bitch and moan about the politics here won't move because I've asked "why don't you move to a state you'd be happier in"? They always respond 'this is my home and almost anything you want to do is within a 3 hour drive. Mountains, coast, amusement parks, Napa Valley for wine. Honestly we've been hearing this "people are leaving California in droves" mantra for 20 years. Uh huh. The economy in CA is the size of Russia's economy, or the UK.

Want to go to Taxus or Florida? No problem, go. I'm not sure what all the whining about CA is about.

Amusing that you select two of seven states that levy no state income taxes (Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming) as targets for you rant. Even more hilarious, CA is one of five states (California, Connecticut, Nebraska, Rhode Island and Vermont) that permit no exemptions or credits for pension or retirement income if it is included in your federal adjusted gross income. Most other states have some form of exemption or adjustment for retirement income.

'

Then saddle up and hit the dusty trail pardner.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Texas fired back at California’s state-sponsored travel ban, with Attorney General Ken Paxton pointing out that most of the political refugees in Texas are actually from California.

Texas Mocks California Travel Ban: Most Our New Residents Are From There!
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Not only has the Obama been able to manipulate the public into all the bs they believe now, but it's carried over right on into Trump. All these idiots ANTIFA, BLM, GAY LIBERALS, TRANNY's..... FEMINIST ( radical ) etc, etc are the same bimbos who blame this bs on Trump when proof has it when not a zombie that Obama has created the biggest division in this Country now we have states acting like this and Texas hopefully will be damed before changing into some pathetic liberal nation like California is. They need to seperate from this Country that way the pos losers can all move there and GTF our of America the free.

They all hate Freedom, Rights, and Liberty why do you think they get off having a President who dictates what is right or wrong, and to stupid to see they use their wants and desire against them to keep them enslaved.

Good, all the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here, will find a home in Taxus making minimum wage.

God speed to the mediocre migrants to Taxus. Taxus was made for those who put their cars up on cinder blocks in the front yard and the thong wearers at Walmart.

the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here
you mean many of the retirees who paid taxes for years to the State but since retirement they cant afford to live there anymore?.........just asking....

No I mean the also-rans who couldn't make it.

The cost of living here is high no doubt. But people find a way rather than leave. A population of 40 million and growing attests to the fact people love California. I find even the people that bitch and moan about the politics here won't move because I've asked "why don't you move to a state you'd be happier in"? They always respond 'this is my home and almost anything you want to do is within a 3 hour drive. Mountains, coast, amusement parks, Napa Valley for wine. Honestly we've been hearing this "people are leaving California in droves" mantra for 20 years. Uh huh. The economy in CA is the size of Russia's economy, or the UK.

Want to go to Taxus or Florida? No problem, go. I'm not sure what all the whining about CA is about.

Amusing that you select two of seven states that levy no state income taxes (Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming) as targets for you rant. Even more hilarious, CA is one of five states (California, Connecticut, Nebraska, Rhode Island and Vermont) that permit no exemptions or credits for pension or retirement income if it is included in your federal adjusted gross income. Most other states have some form of exemption or adjustment for retirement income.

'

Then saddle up and hit the dusty trail pardner.

I don't need to, I live in Alaska, which is already on the list, thanks. Why in hell would I want to move someplace with as many retired, whiny snowflakes as FL, or someplace as hot and dusty as TX?

 

[IsaacNewton]

Good, all the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here, will find a home in Taxus making minimum wage.

God speed to the mediocre migrants to Taxus. Taxus was made for those who put their cars up on cinder blocks in the front yard and the thong wearers at Walmart.

the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here
you mean many of the retirees who paid taxes for years to the State but since retirement they cant afford to live there anymore?.........just asking....

No I mean the also-rans who couldn't make it.

The cost of living here is high no doubt. But people find a way rather than leave. A population of 40 million and growing attests to the fact people love California. I find even the people that bitch and moan about the politics here won't move because I've asked "why don't you move to a state you'd be happier in"? They always respond 'this is my home and almost anything you want to do is within a 3 hour drive. Mountains, coast, amusement parks, Napa Valley for wine. Honestly we've been hearing this "people are leaving California in droves" mantra for 20 years. Uh huh. The economy in CA is the size of Russia's economy, or the UK.

Want to go to Taxus or Florida? No problem, go. I'm not sure what all the whining about CA is about.

Amusing that you select two of seven states that levy no state income taxes (Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming) as targets for you rant. Even more hilarious, CA is one of five states (California, Connecticut, Nebraska, Rhode Island and Vermont) that permit no exemptions or credits for pension or retirement income if it is included in your federal adjusted gross income. Most other states have some form of exemption or adjustment for retirement income.

'

Then saddle up and hit the dusty trail pardner.

I don't need to, I live in Alaska, which is already on the list, thanks. Why in hell would I want to move someplace with as many retired, whiny snowflakes as FL, or someplace as hot and dusty as TX?

I see, so you took that to mean you personally. It was meant generally. Yeah I couldn't imagine living in Florida or Taxus either.

How cold is the coldest month in Alaska during the winter? I could see that thing where Han cuts open the Ton Ton and stuffs Luke in there to keep him warm happening for real in the Alaskan wilderness in the winter.

 

[gallantwarrior]

the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here
you mean many of the retirees who paid taxes for years to the State but since retirement they cant afford to live there anymore?.........just asking....

No I mean the also-rans who couldn't make it.

The cost of living here is high no doubt. But people find a way rather than leave. A population of 40 million and growing attests to the fact people love California. I find even the people that bitch and moan about the politics here won't move because I've asked "why don't you move to a state you'd be happier in"? They always respond 'this is my home and almost anything you want to do is within a 3 hour drive. Mountains, coast, amusement parks, Napa Valley for wine. Honestly we've been hearing this "people are leaving California in droves" mantra for 20 years. Uh huh. The economy in CA is the size of Russia's economy, or the UK.

Want to go to Taxus or Florida? No problem, go. I'm not sure what all the whining about CA is about.

Amusing that you select two of seven states that levy no state income taxes (Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming) as targets for you rant. Even more hilarious, CA is one of five states (California, Connecticut, Nebraska, Rhode Island and Vermont) that permit no exemptions or credits for pension or retirement income if it is included in your federal adjusted gross income. Most other states have some form of exemption or adjustment for retirement income.

'

Then saddle up and hit the dusty trail pardner.

I don't need to, I live in Alaska, which is already on the list, thanks. Why in hell would I want to move someplace with as many retired, whiny snowflakes as FL, or someplace as hot and dusty as TX?

I see, so you took that to mean you personally. It was meant generally. Yeah I couldn't imagine living in Florida or Taxus either.

How cold is the coldest month in Alaska during the winter? I could see that thing where Han cuts open the Ton Ton and stuffs Luke in there to keep him warm happening for real in the Alaskan wilderness in the winter.

Nah, just speaking for myself, personally.
Coldest month depends on where you are. In my area, it's around Jan-Feb and can drop to -40F, but usually stays around 0F. Other places, the cold months last longer and get colder.
No Ton Tons here, although a moose might be large enough to stay warm that way, pretty messy way to survive. I believe Jack London's story "To Build a Fire" (1908) had the main character contemplating using his dog in such a manner. I've never heard of anyone doing such a thing, but they will torch their snow machines to stay warm. Nowadays, they often just break out the cell phone and call for help. I still would not recommend Alaskan adventures of that sort for the unprepared, though.
Where are you in CA? I have a sister who lives in the Sacramento area.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

LOL Tennessee trolls the Fruits and Nuts.....

 

[gallantwarrior]

LOL Tennessee trolls the Fruits and Nuts.....

I did see that TN was pondering joining the states that don't impose an income tax.

 

[Wry Catcher]

California is a state you live in because you want to.

Texas is a state you live in because you have to.

True, San Antonio is a great place to visit as is Austin; Dallas and Houston are a bore.

 

[charwin95]

A tiny fraction, maybe. Generally, people move for many other reasons than hating where they live.

yea like they cant afford to live there anymore.....especially retirees, unless of course they are well off.....

California is a state you move to if you want to try to make money. Red states are places you move to because everything is much cheaper, since a whole lot less money is being made by people there. So of course the baby boomers are leaving California for red states now that they're finished trying to make money.

California is a state you move to if you want to try to make money.
nice story....so what about the people who lived there their whole lives?...
as a former letter carrier who was handed a hell of a lot of add changes over my last 10 years there,most people told me they were leaving because they could not afford to retire there or wanted to get to a place were you are not taxed to death.....business's told me they were leaving because as a small business they could not keep up the pace with the taxes and regulations just to do business in the State.....

If business and retirees are leaving California then explain why the economy is booming big time here in California.
I've been living here in California 75% of my life the 25% is in Key Biscayne as a business owner with very high involvement in social and economic experiences.
You are a basing your opinion from a letter carrier? A letter carrier? Since when a letter carrier have dealings with businesses.
What businesses that cannot afford to operate California because of regulations? LIKE WHAT?
If business is doing well here in California taxes is not the problem. Remember in business location location location is very critical to business success. Not because of taxes or regulations.
I'm very happy here in California and I will never move anywhere else in this planet.

yea me im that letter carrier, and i delivered to 2 complexes that had 500 businesses between the 2....a GREAT deal of the changes i got had out of State destinations on them,and this was over a 5-7 year period.....and in the 55+ gated community i had, a lot and i mean a lot of those people told they were planing on leaving the state when they retire and MANY of the changes i was given over the years i delivered there were for out of State....
I'm very happy here in California and I will never move anywhere else in this planet
good for you charwin....

During your regular routine which is always in a hurry dropped the mail then run ------- So the owners or others will come out and talk to you about taxes, regulations and moving to other states and retirement? In reality when moving a company it's very sensitive and confidential because of job loss which demoralized the employees.

I talked to a lot of people regularly, like other business owners, seminars, large trade shows and other gatherings ------ The discussions of retiring somewhere or business moving somewhere is extremely very rare.
You make it sound like it's a crisis. That is why I asked the question---- if businesses are leaving. Why is the California's economy is booming?

 

[charwin95]

Most of the retirees that left California made a lot of money selling their old homes then move to Arizona or Nevada----- buy and paid off a home which is far cheaper then save a the rest. The number of that is very minimal.
It is NOT because they cannot afford. I know several retirees that did that but some regret moving because of the unbearable weather.

I can confirm that from personal experience. Bought a house in California for $140,000 and, after retiring, sold it for $399,800 and moved to a state where there is no income tax; no state sales tax and property taxes are about 1/2 those in California - but where the first $150,000 valuation of a personal home is property tax exempt for we over 65. The proceeds bought me a new house and the adjoining one which became a cash-cow rental. Every bit of it free and clear though the rental does pay property tax.

Funny thing is, the company I worked for left California just two years after I retired.

Good and I'm happy for you that you were able to that because of California.

About 99% to 100% of all home owners would love to see the value of their home and properties to go up. So they can use the equity for several reasons just like you.
If you lived in others states would you ( or Harry ) be able to do that? Some or most of other states their value of their property barely go up after many years.

You didn't mention what year you sold your old house. If you didn't sell your house and have it rented, borrow from the equity. Depending on the location that could be $600,000 or up by now?? But that's just me.

I know a widow that did the same thing. Bought their house in 1988 for $220k in Irvine, Ca, sold it for $1.2 million, bought a new house in Seattle for $325k in 2013 so he can get closer to his grand kids. He did planned to have it rented but his wife died of cancer.
I also know others that sold their house or rented then moved to Arizona or Nevada but regretted because un bearable heat plus separated them from friends and families.

I'm not disagreeing that it's very expensive to live here and companies are leaving. Despite all of that our economy is booming and I'm also benefiting a lot because of that.

 

[charwin95]

Good, all the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here, will find a home in Taxus making minimum wage.

God speed to the mediocre migrants to Taxus. Taxus was made for those who put their cars up on cinder blocks in the front yard and the thong wearers at Walmart.

the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here
you mean many of the retirees who paid taxes for years to the State but since retirement they cant afford to live there anymore?.........just asking....

No I mean the also-rans who couldn't make it.

The cost of living here is high no doubt. But people find a way rather than leave. A population of 40 million and growing attests to the fact people love California. I find even the people that bitch and moan about the politics here won't move because I've asked "why don't you move to a state you'd be happier in"? They always respond 'this is my home and almost anything you want to do is within a 3 hour drive. Mountains, coast, amusement parks, Napa Valley for wine. Honestly we've been hearing this "people are leaving California in droves" mantra for 20 years. Uh huh. The economy in CA is the size of Russia's economy, or the UK.

Want to go to Taxus or Florida? No problem, go. I'm not sure what all the whining about CA is about.

But people find a way rather than leave
thats true but many of them dont.....and the most common reason i was told by many of them is, as a retiree they needed a cheaper place to live....and thats a shame that California dont do more to help their retirees outside of forcing them to move out to the middle of fucking nowhere or leaving the state....

Housing here right now is horrendous. For everyone. Even apartment rates are through the roof throughout the state. And it isn't just CA. The Great Recession saw house building take a nose dive and consequently housing availability has gone down which will take a few years to catch up. Until then all housing costs have been rising a lot.

aint that the truth....i just bought a 3 bed 2 bath house, 16 years old with a nice back yard in a solid middle class neighborhood in N.Las Vegas for $155,000,same houses in OC was around $300,000 and were in half ass neighborhoods.....big difference....

That ain't right bud. You came from Anaheim, Ca. a 16 years old house in anaheim is far more than $300k. You can get $300k houses that are built in early 80s or 70s which are very small houses.

North Las Vegas is 106°F right now, dusty and high crime area. That's nice.
Last year 2016 Alaska ranked as #1 and Nevada #2 of the top 10 most dangerous states which regards to crimes, drugs, alcoholism etc. California with the largest population in US and illegals ranked distance #17.

The Most Dangerous States in America

BTW Palm Spring is 112°F but La Jolla is 72°F.

 

[Harry Dresden]

yea like they cant afford to live there anymore.....especially retirees, unless of course they are well off.....

California is a state you move to if you want to try to make money. Red states are places you move to because everything is much cheaper, since a whole lot less money is being made by people there. So of course the baby boomers are leaving California for red states now that they're finished trying to make money.

California is a state you move to if you want to try to make money.
nice story....so what about the people who lived there their whole lives?...
as a former letter carrier who was handed a hell of a lot of add changes over my last 10 years there,most people told me they were leaving because they could not afford to retire there or wanted to get to a place were you are not taxed to death.....business's told me they were leaving because as a small business they could not keep up the pace with the taxes and regulations just to do business in the State.....

If business and retirees are leaving California then explain why the economy is booming big time here in California.
I've been living here in California 75% of my life the 25% is in Key Biscayne as a business owner with very high involvement in social and economic experiences.
You are a basing your opinion from a letter carrier? A letter carrier? Since when a letter carrier have dealings with businesses.
What businesses that cannot afford to operate California because of regulations? LIKE WHAT?
If business is doing well here in California taxes is not the problem. Remember in business location location location is very critical to business success. Not because of taxes or regulations.
I'm very happy here in California and I will never move anywhere else in this planet.

yea me im that letter carrier, and i delivered to 2 complexes that had 500 businesses between the 2....a GREAT deal of the changes i got had out of State destinations on them,and this was over a 5-7 year period.....and in the 55+ gated community i had, a lot and i mean a lot of those people told they were planing on leaving the state when they retire and MANY of the changes i was given over the years i delivered there were for out of State....
I'm very happy here in California and I will never move anywhere else in this planet
good for you charwin....

During your regular routine which is always in a hurry dropped the mail then run ------- So the owners or others will come out and talk to you about taxes, regulations and moving to other states and retirement? In reality when moving a company it's very sensitive and confidential because of job loss which demoralized the employees.

I talked to a lot of people regularly, like other business owners, seminars, large trade shows and other gatherings ------ The discussions of retiring somewhere or business moving somewhere is extremely very rare.
You make it sound like it's a crisis. That is why I asked the question---- if businesses are leaving. Why is the California's economy is booming?

During your regular routine which is always in a hurry dropped the mail then run
so you saw me out there?.....
a regular is only in a hurry if its at christmas time or election time....and yes we talk to our customers its part of the job its called...."customer relations"...
In reality when moving a company it's very sensitive and confidential because of job loss which demoralized the employees.
no the reality is the owner or employees talk about whats going on.....
Why is the California's economy is booming?
is it?.....for as many who claim it is there are those who claim it isnt....when i left last year it wasnt.....it was starting to level off,but still had many problems....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Texas fired back at California’s state-sponsored travel ban, with Attorney General Ken Paxton pointing out that most of the political refugees in Texas are actually from California.

Texas Mocks California Travel Ban: Most Our New Residents Are From There!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Not only has the Obama been able to manipulate the public into all the bs they believe now, but it's carried over right on into Trump. All these idiots ANTIFA, BLM, GAY LIBERALS, TRANNY's..... FEMINIST ( radical ) etc, etc are the same bimbos who blame this bs on Trump when proof has it when not a zombie that Obama has created the biggest division in this Country now we have states acting like this and Texas hopefully will be damed before changing into some pathetic liberal nation like California is. They need to seperate from this Country that way the pos losers can all move there and GTF our of America the free.

They all hate Freedom, Rights, and Liberty why do you think they get off having a President who dictates what is right or wrong, and to stupid to see they use their wants and desire against them to keep them enslaved.

Good that means Texas will be blue in a few years

why?.....many of those leaving are doing so because they cant stand what California has become......

A tiny fraction, maybe. Generally, people move for many other reasons than hating where they live.

yea like they cant afford to live there anymore.....especially retirees, unless of course they are well off.....

That is not true.

yea its true....

 

[jasonnfree]

the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here
you mean many of the retirees who paid taxes for years to the State but since retirement they cant afford to live there anymore?.........just asking....

No I mean the also-rans who couldn't make it.

The cost of living here is high no doubt. But people find a way rather than leave. A population of 40 million and growing attests to the fact people love California. I find even the people that bitch and moan about the politics here won't move because I've asked "why don't you move to a state you'd be happier in"? They always respond 'this is my home and almost anything you want to do is within a 3 hour drive. Mountains, coast, amusement parks, Napa Valley for wine. Honestly we've been hearing this "people are leaving California in droves" mantra for 20 years. Uh huh. The economy in CA is the size of Russia's economy, or the UK.

Want to go to Taxus or Florida? No problem, go. I'm not sure what all the whining about CA is about.

But people find a way rather than leave
thats true but many of them dont.....and the most common reason i was told by many of them is, as a retiree they needed a cheaper place to live....and thats a shame that California dont do more to help their retirees outside of forcing them to move out to the middle of fucking nowhere or leaving the state....

Housing here right now is horrendous. For everyone. Even apartment rates are through the roof throughout the state. And it isn't just CA. The Great Recession saw house building take a nose dive and consequently housing availability has gone down which will take a few years to catch up. Until then all housing costs have been rising a lot.

aint that the truth....i just bought a 3 bed 2 bath house, 16 years old with a nice back yard in a solid middle class neighborhood in N.Las Vegas for $155,000,same houses in OC was around $300,000 and were in half ass neighborhoods.....big difference....

That ain't right bud. You came from Anaheim, Ca. a 16 years old house in anaheim is far more than $300k. You can get $300k houses that are built in early 80s or 70s which are very small houses.

North Las Vegas is 106°F right now, dusty and high crime area. That's nice.
Last year 2016 Alaska ranked as #1 and Nevada #2 of the top 10 most dangerous states which regards to crimes, drugs, alcoholism etc. California with the largest population in US and illegals ranked distance #17.

The Most Dangerous States in America

BTW Palm Spring is 112°F but La Jolla is 72°F.

View attachment 135863

Correct, even black ghetto or mexican barrio properties in Orange or LA counties selling for more than really nice houses in most other states.

 

[Harry Dresden]

the also-rans from California, those who couldn't make it here
you mean many of the retirees who paid taxes for years to the State but since retirement they cant afford to live there anymore?.........just asking....

No I mean the also-rans who couldn't make it.

The cost of living here is high no doubt. But people find a way rather than leave. A population of 40 million and growing attests to the fact people love California. I find even the people that bitch and moan about the politics here won't move because I've asked "why don't you move to a state you'd be happier in"? They always respond 'this is my home and almost anything you want to do is within a 3 hour drive. Mountains, coast, amusement parks, Napa Valley for wine. Honestly we've been hearing this "people are leaving California in droves" mantra for 20 years. Uh huh. The economy in CA is the size of Russia's economy, or the UK.

Want to go to Taxus or Florida? No problem, go. I'm not sure what all the whining about CA is about.

But people find a way rather than leave
thats true but many of them dont.....and the most common reason i was told by many of them is, as a retiree they needed a cheaper place to live....and thats a shame that California dont do more to help their retirees outside of forcing them to move out to the middle of fucking nowhere or leaving the state....

Housing here right now is horrendous. For everyone. Even apartment rates are through the roof throughout the state. And it isn't just CA. The Great Recession saw house building take a nose dive and consequently housing availability has gone down which will take a few years to catch up. Until then all housing costs have been rising a lot.

aint that the truth....i just bought a 3 bed 2 bath house, 16 years old with a nice back yard in a solid middle class neighborhood in N.Las Vegas for $155,000,same houses in OC was around $300,000 and were in half ass neighborhoods.....big difference....

That ain't right bud. You came from Anaheim, Ca. a 16 years old house in anaheim is far more than $300k. You can get $300k houses that are built in early 80s or 70s which are very small houses.

North Las Vegas is 106°F right now, dusty and high crime area. That's nice.
Last year 2016 Alaska ranked as #1 and Nevada #2 of the top 10 most dangerous states which regards to crimes, drugs, alcoholism etc. California with the largest population in US and illegals ranked distance #17.

The Most Dangerous States in America

BTW Palm Spring is 112°F but La Jolla is 72°F.

View attachment 135863

N.Las Vegas is not a high crime area....were i moved to there is very little crime,most of it is in the older parts of town near the strip....i am about 35 miles from that area....i live in a mixed neighborhood of whites,blacks,Latinos,you name it their here,but everyone has nice house and car and take care of them and no one is around during the day,i guess they must be working....even the kids are well behaved....i guess everyone is civilized...

 

[Weatherman2020]

The once Golden State built by Republicans is an empty rusted shell with a few Hollywood zillionaires and their illegal maids and gardners.

 

[Syriusly]

They all hate Freedom, Rights, and Liberty.

Yep- Trump and Texas do hate Freedom, Rights and Liberty.

 

[Syriusly]

The once Golden State built by Republicans is an empty rusted shell with a few Hollywood zillionaires and their illegal maids and gardners.

Weatherman needs to stop listening to the voices in his head, and come out of the basement occasionally.

 

[IsaacNewton]

No I mean the also-rans who couldn't make it.

The cost of living here is high no doubt. But people find a way rather than leave. A population of 40 million and growing attests to the fact people love California. I find even the people that bitch and moan about the politics here won't move because I've asked "why don't you move to a state you'd be happier in"? They always respond 'this is my home and almost anything you want to do is within a 3 hour drive. Mountains, coast, amusement parks, Napa Valley for wine. Honestly we've been hearing this "people are leaving California in droves" mantra for 20 years. Uh huh. The economy in CA is the size of Russia's economy, or the UK.

Want to go to Taxus or Florida? No problem, go. I'm not sure what all the whining about CA is about.

Amusing that you select two of seven states that levy no state income taxes (Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming) as targets for you rant. Even more hilarious, CA is one of five states (California, Connecticut, Nebraska, Rhode Island and Vermont) that permit no exemptions or credits for pension or retirement income if it is included in your federal adjusted gross income. Most other states have some form of exemption or adjustment for retirement income.

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Then saddle up and hit the dusty trail pardner.

I don't need to, I live in Alaska, which is already on the list, thanks. Why in hell would I want to move someplace with as many retired, whiny snowflakes as FL, or someplace as hot and dusty as TX?

I see, so you took that to mean you personally. It was meant generally. Yeah I couldn't imagine living in Florida or Taxus either.

How cold is the coldest month in Alaska during the winter? I could see that thing where Han cuts open the Ton Ton and stuffs Luke in there to keep him warm happening for real in the Alaskan wilderness in the winter.

Nah, just speaking for myself, personally.
Coldest month depends on where you are. In my area, it's around Jan-Feb and can drop to -40F, but usually stays around 0F. Other places, the cold months last longer and get colder.
No Ton Tons here, although a moose might be large enough to stay warm that way, pretty messy way to survive. I believe Jack London's story "To Build a Fire" (1908) had the main character contemplating using his dog in such a manner. I've never heard of anyone doing such a thing, but they will torch their snow machines to stay warm. Nowadays, they often just break out the cell phone and call for help. I still would not recommend Alaskan adventures of that sort for the unprepared, though.
Where are you in CA? I have a sister who lives in the Sacramento area.

Central CA. I travel to LA and the Bay Area fairly regularly. And Monterey is always on the agend though the huge landslide on Highway 1 has ended any drives down 1 for a year. People in Big Sur are really in bad shape already. Business has nearly stopped.

 

[charwin95]

California is a state you move to if you want to try to make money. Red states are places you move to because everything is much cheaper, since a whole lot less money is being made by people there. So of course the baby boomers are leaving California for red states now that they're finished trying to make money.

California is a state you move to if you want to try to make money.
nice story....so what about the people who lived there their whole lives?...
as a former letter carrier who was handed a hell of a lot of add changes over my last 10 years there,most people told me they were leaving because they could not afford to retire there or wanted to get to a place were you are not taxed to death.....business's told me they were leaving because as a small business they could not keep up the pace with the taxes and regulations just to do business in the State.....

If business and retirees are leaving California then explain why the economy is booming big time here in California.
I've been living here in California 75% of my life the 25% is in Key Biscayne as a business owner with very high involvement in social and economic experiences.
You are a basing your opinion from a letter carrier? A letter carrier? Since when a letter carrier have dealings with businesses.
What businesses that cannot afford to operate California because of regulations? LIKE WHAT?
If business is doing well here in California taxes is not the problem. Remember in business location location location is very critical to business success. Not because of taxes or regulations.
I'm very happy here in California and I will never move anywhere else in this planet.

yea me im that letter carrier, and i delivered to 2 complexes that had 500 businesses between the 2....a GREAT deal of the changes i got had out of State destinations on them,and this was over a 5-7 year period.....and in the 55+ gated community i had, a lot and i mean a lot of those people told they were planing on leaving the state when they retire and MANY of the changes i was given over the years i delivered there were for out of State....
I'm very happy here in California and I will never move anywhere else in this planet
good for you charwin....

During your regular routine which is always in a hurry dropped the mail then run ------- So the owners or others will come out and talk to you about taxes, regulations and moving to other states and retirement? In reality when moving a company it's very sensitive and confidential because of job loss which demoralized the employees.

I talked to a lot of people regularly, like other business owners, seminars, large trade shows and other gatherings ------ The discussions of retiring somewhere or business moving somewhere is extremely very rare.
You make it sound like it's a crisis. That is why I asked the question---- if businesses are leaving. Why is the California's economy is booming?

1. During your regular routine which is always in a hurry dropped the mail then run [/B]
so you saw me out there?.....
a regular is only in a hurry if its at christmas time or election time....and yes we talk to our customers its part of the job its called...."customer relations"...
2. B]In reality when moving a company it's very sensitive and confidential because of job loss which demoralized the employees.[/B]
no the reality is the owner or employees talk about whats going on.....
3. B]Why is the California's economy is booming?[/B]
is it?.....for as many who claim it is there are those who claim it isnt....when i left last year it wasnt.....it was starting to level off,but still had many problems....

1. I never saw you in person but I always see letter carriers delivering bulk of mails ------ dropped the mail and go. I never seen a letter stop and have a long conversations except maybe a minute or 2 with the receptionist, never get a call or visit from USPS never. But people from FedEx, UPS, Amazon, Roadies etc. do call and see me. And I do not discuss about regulations, taxes and business plans.
2. Really? Talk to a letter carrier what is going about their company? Really?

3. Last time I checked California is the 6th largest economy in this planet. Yes like any other states there are problems but people are cherry picking what is bad here in California. You may want to read these links ----- 2015, 16 and 17.

California Today: How California Helps the U.S. Economy

https://www.bizjournals.com/sacrame...rnia-now-world-s-6th-largest-economy.amp.html

California’s economy is bigger than all but five nations, World Bank data says – The Mercury News