Texas man lures in pedophile by posing as child, shoots him dead at meet-up

[Faun]

I think we need more capital punishment for the dirtbag he executed

Dont you?

So everyone here posting pictures, claiming they're pictures of Biden molesting children, should be put to death?

 

[Mac-7]

So everyone here posting pictures, claiming they're pictures of Biden molesting children, should be put to death?

I have no opinion on that

I am talking about convicted child molester

 

[westwall]

I'm not responsible for your mental deficiencies.

Nor I yours.

 

[westwall]

So everyone here posting pictures, claiming they're pictures of Biden molesting children, should be put to death?

Nope, pedophiles should be put to death.

Those who expose them are heroes

 

[airplanemechanic]

The asshole who was killed had a previous paedophilia conviction, he wasn't a babe in the woods.

Should have known better.

If some civilian without a history of fucking children had been lured, I'd have a bit more empathy as he might have thought it was just a game and he was just getting a chance to meet Chris Hanson.

He didn't "fuck children." He had IMAGES of them.

 

[1srelluc]

He didn't "fuck children." He had IMAGES of them.

That's the "gateway drug" of kiddy diddlers.

Gotta....

 

[westwall]

He didn't "fuck children." He had IMAGES of them.

But he was coming to do just that. So, odds are he had in the past.

 

[Faun]

I have no opinion on that

I am talking about convicted child molester

No, you're not. He was convicted of being in possession of child pornography, not child molestation. Same as many rightards on this forum posting pictures they claim depict Biden molesting children.

So why shouldn't such posters here not suffer the same fate you describe is preferred for creeps like that?

 

[airplanemechanic]

That's the "gateway drug" of kiddy diddlers.

Gotta....

The problem is, AI images have been ruled to be child porn. So someone can create fake images of nude fake kids and someone do REAL TIME in a REAL PRISON for fake images where no child was harmed because no child exists. I don't mean where a real childs face is superimposed on a fake body or anything, I mean 100% fake image. Face is fake, body is fake, setting is fake, everything is fake. Yet the time you do for having it is real.

Another thing is a child taking pics of THEMSELVES and sending it to others. Then a child can be convicted of production of child porn. I know MANY girls in middle and high school that took VERY erotic photos of themselves with first generation digital cameras and we passed them around at school. Nobody went to jail, thank God. But nobody thought it was wrong, she was taking the pictures of herself with her own camera and giving the images out on 3.5" floppy disks. (yea, it's been a while now. We were using Windows 2.0 to view them). It was usually one camera given to each girl and she'd take it home and take a bunch of pics of herself and put them on a disk and we'd copy them when we got home. Nobody even treated it as illegal, we had the floppies on our desks during class. I remember one sitting on the computer table at home after school. I was 14 with numerous images of naked 13yo girls from my high school and attached middle school next door. Never thought anything of it other than these girls are hot, they were mostly cheerleaders and dance squad girls. This was before "child porn" became a public thing that people were on the news for. I mean we were kids ourselves, the girls being 13 didn't mean anything other than they went to our school. When I graduated from high school I formatted the disks and disposed of them. Never thought about them again until I hear of all these arrests. This was 30 years ago.

Another problem is like in my state, LA, where the AOC is lower than 18. So its legal for a man to have sex with her at 17, but taking a nude pic of her having sex with him? 20 years in the feds for production of child porn.

People don't realize that things like child porn can go in weird directions that are not at all what you think they are.

It's another slippery slope. Am I saying true real God honest child porn should be legal? Of course not. I think the real stuff can really hurt real people and that people SHOULD be in prison for it. But to send kids to prison for taking pics of themselves or sending men to prison for filming themselves having consensual sex with their girlfriends? I think it is too much. Should girls be punished if they take nudes of themselves? Yea, but age appropriate. Not felony charges for preteen girls trying to impress older boys at school.

 

[Faun]

Nor I yours.

Unlike you, I'm not the one saying things about other posters which are not true.

 

[Faun]

Nope, pedophiles should be put to death.

Nope, what? I already agreed with that.

Those who expose them are heroes

And those who murder them should pay the same price.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

The problem is, AI images have been ruled to be child porn. So someone can create fake images of nude fake kids and someone do REAL TIME in a REAL PRISON for fake images where no child was harmed because no child exists. I don't mean where a real childs face is superimposed on a fake body or anything, I mean 100% fake image. Face is fake, body is fake, setting is fake, everything is fake. Yet the time you do for having it is real.

Another thing is a child taking pics of THEMSELVES and sending it to others. Then a child can be convicted of production of child porn. I know MANY girls in high school that took VERY erotic photos of themselves with first generation digital cameras and we passed them around at school. Nobody went to jail, thank God. But nobody thought it was wrong, she was taking the pictures of herself with her own camera and giving the images out on 3.5" floppy disks. (yea, it's been a while now. We were using Windows 2.0 to view them). It was usually one camera given to each girl and she'd take it home and take a bunch of pics of herself and put them on a disk and we'd copy them when we got home. Nobody even treated it as illegal, we had the floppies on our desks during class. I remember one sitting on the computer table at home after school. I was 14 with numerous images of naked 13yo girls from my high school and attached middle school next door. Never thought anything of it other than these girls are hot, they were mostly cheerleaders and dance squad girls. This was before "child porn" became a public thing that people were on the news for. I mean we were kids ourselves, the girls being 13 didn't mean anything other than they went to our school. When I graduated from high school I formatted the disks and disposed of them. Never thought about them again until I hear of all these arrests. This was almost 30 years ago.

Another problem is like in my state, LA, where the AOC is lower than 18. So its legal for a man to have sex with her at 17, but taking a nude pic of her having sex with him? 20 years in the feds for production of child porn.

People don't realize that things like child porn can go in weird directions that are not at all what you think they are.

It's another slippery slope. Am I saying true real God honest child porn should be legal? Of course not. I think the real stuff can really hurt real people and that people SHOULD be in prison for it. But to send kids to prison for taking pics of themselves or sending men to prison for filming themselves having consensual sex with their girlfriends? I think it is too much. Should girls be punished if they take nudes of themselves? Yea, but age appropriate. Not felony charges for preteen girls trying to impress older boys at school.

Good comment! How is child pornography defined legally? Why is the U.S. among the strictest countries in the world in enforcing “anti-child pornography laws,” but fails more than other developed countries in actually protecting children from sexual and other forms of abuse (especially within the family, among the poor & drug addicts, etc.)?

These questions are worthy of discussion, but I doubt we can discuss them seriously here without the “hang them high” and “cut their dicks off’ contingent accusing us of being pedophiles ourselves.

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U.S. laws regarding child pornography are virtually always enforced and amongst the harshest in the world….

Notably, the age of consent for sexual activity in a given state is irrelevant; any depiction of a minor under 18 years of age engaging in sexually explicit conduct [my emphasis] is illegal. Federal prosecutors have secured convictions carrying mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years of imprisonment for producing visual depictions of individuals above the legal age of consent but under the age of 18, even when there was no intent to distribute such content.[7] The legal definition of sexually explicit conduct does not require that an image depict a child engaging in sexual activity. A picture of a naked child may constitute illegal child pornography if it is sufficiently sexually suggestive.[3]

Child pornography laws in the United States - Wikipedia

 

[westwall]

Unlike you, I'm not the one saying things about other posters which are not true.

Ummm, yeah, you do that every day.

 

[westwall]

Good comment! How is child pornography defined legally? Why is the U.S. among the strictest countries in the world in enforcing “anti-child pornography laws,” but fails more than other developed countries in actually protecting children from sexual and other forms of abuse (especially within the family, among the poor & drug addicts, etc.)?

These questions are worthy of discussion, but I doubt we can discuss them seriously here without the “hang them high” and “cut their dicks off’ contingent accusing us of being pedophiles ourselves.

***

U.S. laws regarding child pornography are virtually always enforced and amongst the harshest in the world….

Notably, the age of consent for sexual activity in a given state is irrelevant; any depiction of a minor under 18 years of age engaging in sexually explicit conduct [my emphasis] is illegal. Federal prosecutors have secured convictions carrying mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years of imprisonment for producing visual depictions of individuals above the legal age of consent but under the age of 18, even when there was no intent to distribute such content.[7] The legal definition of sexually explicit conduct does not require that an image depict a child engaging in sexual activity. A picture of a naked child may constitute illegal child pornography if it is sufficiently sexually suggestive.[3]

Child pornography laws in the United States - Wikipedia

Which does nothing to refute the fact the dead pedo was on his way to have sex with a 13 year old.

DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

 

[Faun]

Ummm, yeah, you do that every day.

Quote me...

 

[Mac-7]

He should get the medal of Valor or Freedom or whatever BS they hand out up in DC. He saved some Childrens' futures. Who is to say he did not threaten the guy running the sting when he showed up and had to be put down? 30 days probation for littering leaving the corpse in the ditch perhaps?

Lets

No, you're not. He was convicted of being in possession of child pornography, not child molestation. Same as many rightards on this forum posting pictures they claim depict Biden molesting children.

So why shouldn't such posters here not suffer the same fate you describe is preferred for creeps like that?

true, he was only trying to molest a child who turned out to be an adult vigilante posing as s child

I am just twisting your tail a bit

Of course citizens should not be killing suspected sex offenders

Its too messy and unpredictable

But this incident might make other perverts behave themselves in the future

 

[Jarlaxle]

Sorry, I would find the guy guilty of murder in this case. Walk in while someone was molesting your child and kill them, understandable.

This isn't. It's pre-meditated murder.

Murder one with special circumstances, open and shut. Death penalty. He should be in the ground by Christmas.

 

[Crepitus]

Vigilante accused of posing as minor online to lure and kill convicted child predator

A Texas man posed as a minor and lured a convicted child sex offender to his death because he felt law enforcement didn’t do enough to keep pedophiles in prison.

nypost.com

A Texas man posed as a minor and lured a convicted child sex offender to his death because he felt law enforcement didn't do enough to keep pedophiles in prison.

James Spencer III, 24, had been in contact with Sean Connery Showers, 37, on the messaging app Kik, where he posed as an underage individual as the two planned to meet up while some of their messages appeared 'sexual in nature,' according to ABC 13.

In 2009, Showers (dead pedo) pleaded guilty to federal child porn possession and was sentenced to 30 months in prison, along with being required to register as a sex offender.

Ten years later, he was sentenced to two more years in prison for failing to register as a sex offender, records obtained by the outlet said.

Another driver found Showers’ lifeless body in a ditch within the residential neighborhood.

Oh no....Anyway.

$50 fine

40 hrs community service

That's premeditated murder. The best he can hope for is life, but since it happened in texass he will get the death penalty.

 

[Crepitus]

true, he was only trying to molest a child who turned out to be an adult vigilante posing as s child

the vigilante contacted him. Would it have happened if he hadn't?

This is why cops have to be so careful with entrapment.

 

[1srelluc]

That's premeditated murder. The best he can hope for is life, but since it happened in Texas he will get the death penalty.

Depends on the jury but it's Houston so.....