Texas gives health care to illegals!

[007]

Your question does not even pertain to GOVERNMENT health care. JESUS would have healed the sick personally and he directed us to do the same, this is what I'm telling you. NOT to pay taxes to conscript the healing away to far flung centralized gov't so that they can decide by death panels that you're too sick and old and you can die anyway or wait six months for you surgery.

This is exactly what I"m trying to say. You are saying Jesus Is Government.

No, He is not, never was and never will be.

Where did Jesus instruct us to set up insurance companies that heal according to the amount you can pay?

He didn't, but YOU are the one who invoked Jesus. I did not.

He told us to heal the sick. Which system trys to follow that?
One that provides health care for all?
Or one which excludes the poor?

As if you really did care, and weren't just using the old "what would Jesus do" to be a dumbass... show me in the Bible where Jesus says for all doctors to attend to the sick, FOR FREE. Paragraph and verse... find it... show me... or STFU.

I'll wait...

Jesus was a Pharisee jew------if you take the time to read DA RULES---
there are aspects of that which Pharisees advocated (based on bible and
Talmud) that border on socialism.

Jesus was/is, GOD. If YOU take the time to read the Bible, you'll learn about the Holy Trinity.

And I don't see a Bible paragraph and verse from any of you, what would Jesus do, game players where Jesus instructs all doctors to take care of sick people for free.

Well I have read the Bible and I know there is no such verse, so you people are just playing your usual games and talking your usual crap.

 

[gipper]

I agree. The time is right for Medicare For All. HC is now so fraudulent and ineffective, government control is the only option. Thanks to the greed of the capitalist big HC corporations and corrupt government, we have come to this.

You're joking right? Because that is not libertarian and certainly not anarchist

I am not joking. Our HC system is broken. Something needs to be done. Rather than continue to enrich the greedy bastards of Big Hospital and Big Pharma, lets shut it down.

Well then we'll just have the top heavy, corrupt gov't calling all the shots. No better--probably worse

I don’t think so. Medicare has been around for 50 years and most who use it like it.

It's not universal health care. It's limited. You cannot call whatever Sanders calls "Medicare for all"--it becomes not-Medicare. It becomes universal health care--for 300 million people.

You really are not a libertarian

I would love a libertarian society, but I realize it won’t ever happen. I also realize the fraud and criminal aspects of our current HC system. It benefits the extreme wealthy like most everything in our society. I would rather the poor and MC benefit.

 

[pismoe]

from what i understand the patients being discussed are ILLEGAL ALIENS Camp .

So what. For whatever reason Texas decided to give them some healthcare.

--------------------------------- and they shouldn't have BUT this should show TEXANS the way things are going as Texas turns BLUE Camp .

 

[pismoe]

You're joking right? Because that is not libertarian and certainly not anarchist

I am not joking. Our HC system is broken. Something needs to be done. Rather than continue to enrich the greedy bastards of Big Hospital and Big Pharma, lets shut it down.

Well then we'll just have the top heavy, corrupt gov't calling all the shots. No better--probably worse

I don’t think so. Medicare has been around for 50 years and most who use it like it.

It's not universal health care. It's limited. You cannot call whatever Sanders calls "Medicare for all"--it becomes not-Medicare. It becomes universal health care--for 300 million people.

You really are not a libertarian

I would love a libertarian society, but I realize it won’t ever happen. I also realize the fraud and criminal aspects of our current HC system. It benefits the extreme wealthy like most everything in our society. I would rather the poor and MC benefit.

----------------------------- FECK the Poor and i'm Poor . Course these people are Illegal Aliens that MAY be poor but that Poor-ness has nothing to do with GIVING Free Heathcare to them as 'ILLEGAL' Aliens Gipper .

 

[Camp]

from what i understand the patients being discussed are ILLEGAL ALIENS Camp .

So what. For whatever reason Texas decided to give them some healthcare.

--------------------------------- and they shouldn't have BUT this should show TEXANS the way things are going as Texas turns BLUE Camp .

They did it because of it being cost-effective and a sound economic decision.

 

[pismoe]

Tommy you often spout off about things you don't know. This is just one time.

You want to shirk your responsibility to help the sick and poor and pawn it off on the gov't. Through taxation. And call that a virtue. Jesus doesn't allow for that.

Why do you never answer any questions ?

Your question does not even pertain to GOVERNMENT health care. JESUS would have healed the sick personally and he directed us to do the same, this is what I'm telling you. NOT to pay taxes to conscript the healing away to far flung centralized gov't so that they can decide by death panels that you're too sick and old and you can die anyway or wait six months for you surgery.

This is exactly what I"m trying to say. You are saying Jesus Is Government.

No, He is not, never was and never will be.

Where did Jesus instruct us to set up insurance companies that heal according to the amount you can pay?

He didn't, but YOU are the one who invoked Jesus. I did not.

He told us to heal the sick. Which system trys to follow that?
One that provides health care for all?
Or one which excludes the poor?

----------------------------- Jesus means Nothing in a Secular Society based on Rule of Law Tommy .

 

[irosie91]

Where did Jesus instruct us to set up insurance companies that heal according to the amount you can pay?

He didn't, but YOU are the one who invoked Jesus. I did not.

He told us to heal the sick. Which system trys to follow that?
One that provides health care for all?
Or one which excludes the poor?

As if you really did care, and weren't just using the old "what would Jesus do" to be a dumbass... show me in the Bible where Jesus says for all doctors to attend to the sick, FOR FREE. Paragraph and verse... find it... show me... or STFU.

I'll wait...

Jesus was a Pharisee jew------if you take the time to read DA RULES---
there are aspects of that which Pharisees advocated (based on bible and
Talmud) that border on socialism.

Jesus was/is, GOD. If YOU take the time to read the Bible, you'll learn about the Holy Trinity.

And I don't see a Bible paragraph and verse from any of you, what would Jesus do, game players where Jesus instructs all doctors to take care of sick people for free.

Well I have read the Bible and I know there is no such verse, so you people are just playing your usual games and talking your usual crap.

I read the bible, probably before you were born. ONE can infer----based on the
beliefs of the Pharisees -----as described in the bible (OT and NT) ----and Talmud,
etc. That Jesus would support the charitable provision of free medical care----
by medical care providers or the support thereof by charitable people to the impoverished

 

[pismoe]

Millions of Americans are without healthcare insurance and millions more have inadequate HC insurance. Many go bankrupt due to fraudulent and excessive HC costs. Yet, illegals get it given to them free.

What a country!

So let's just go to single payer and be done with it.

Not seeing a problem here.

Look, the point is, there wouldn't be one illegal here if white people didn't want them to do the unpleasant jobs that white folks don't want to do.

I agree. The time is right for Medicare For All. HC is now so fraudulent and ineffective, government control is the only option. Thanks to the greed of the capitalist big HC corporations and corrupt government, we have come to this.

You're joking right? Because that is not libertarian and certainly not anarchist

I am not joking. Our HC system is broken. Something needs to be done. Rather than continue to enrich the greedy bastards of Big Hospital and Big Pharma, lets shut it down.

------------------------ like i say , i am Poor but all my 70 years i have had things fixed when i or they needed fixing Gipper . Next up , i'm getting shiny new KNEE's [chrome] and that is as an option or as elective surgery Gipper .

 

[pismoe]

He didn't, but YOU are the one who invoked Jesus. I did not.

He told us to heal the sick. Which system trys to follow that?
One that provides health care for all?
Or one which excludes the poor?

As if you really did care, and weren't just using the old "what would Jesus do" to be a dumbass... show me in the Bible where Jesus says for all doctors to attend to the sick, FOR FREE. Paragraph and verse... find it... show me... or STFU.

I'll wait...

Jesus was a Pharisee jew------if you take the time to read DA RULES---
there are aspects of that which Pharisees advocated (based on bible and
Talmud) that border on socialism.

Jesus was/is, GOD. If YOU take the time to read the Bible, you'll learn about the Holy Trinity.

And I don't see a Bible paragraph and verse from any of you, what would Jesus do, game players where Jesus instructs all doctors to take care of sick people for free.

Well I have read the Bible and I know there is no such verse, so you people are just playing your usual games and talking your usual crap.

I read the bible, probably before you were born. ONE can infer----based on the
beliefs of the Pharisees -----as described in the bible (OT and NT) ----and Talmud,
etc. That Jesus would support the charitable provision of free medical care----
by medical care providers or the support thereof by charitable people to the impoverished

------------------------------------- so Charity by people that WANT to give is fine eh Rosie .

 

[pismoe]

Millions of Americans are without healthcare insurance and millions more have inadequate HC insurance. Many go bankrupt due to fraudulent and excessive HC costs. Yet, illegals get it given to them free.

What a country!

So let's just go to single payer and be done with it.

Not seeing a problem here.

Look, the point is, there wouldn't be one illegal here if white people didn't want them to do the unpleasant jobs that white folks don't want to do.

I agree. The time is right for Medicare For All. HC is now so fraudulent and ineffective, government control is the only option. Thanks to the greed of the capitalist big HC corporations and corrupt government, we have come to this.

really stupid idea. You are clueless

Yeah let’s continue to enrich the greedy bastards while bankrupting poor and MC Americans, as American’s life expectancy drops.

------------------------- a person should take care of their own body and if health goes to heck , just go to the Emergency Room as millions do every day Gipper . But NO as many beggars want healthcare and a room with tv and vegetarian , kosher or halall meals at the expense of other American Taxpayers Gipper .

 

[gipper]

Millions of Americans are without healthcare insurance and millions more have inadequate HC insurance. Many go bankrupt due to fraudulent and excessive HC costs. Yet, illegals get it given to them free.

What a country!

So let's just go to single payer and be done with it.

Not seeing a problem here.

Look, the point is, there wouldn't be one illegal here if white people didn't want them to do the unpleasant jobs that white folks don't want to do.

I agree. The time is right for Medicare For All. HC is now so fraudulent and ineffective, government control is the only option. Thanks to the greed of the capitalist big HC corporations and corrupt government, we have come to this.

really stupid idea. You are clueless

Yeah let’s continue to enrich the greedy bastards while bankrupting poor and MC Americans, as American’s life expectancy drops.

------------------------- a person should take care of their own body and if health goes to heck , just go to the Emergency Room as millions do every day Gipper . But NO as many beggars want healthcare and a room with tv and vegetarian , kosher or halall meals at the expense of other American Taxpayers Gipper .

So let’s keep the fraudulent system in place, to benefit the extreme wealthy. They get socialism and we get capitalism.

Why do you go against your self interest?

 

[pismoe]

So let's just go to single payer and be done with it.

Not seeing a problem here.

Look, the point is, there wouldn't be one illegal here if white people didn't want them to do the unpleasant jobs that white folks don't want to do.

I agree. The time is right for Medicare For All. HC is now so fraudulent and ineffective, government control is the only option. Thanks to the greed of the capitalist big HC corporations and corrupt government, we have come to this.

really stupid idea. You are clueless

Yeah let’s continue to enrich the greedy bastards while bankrupting poor and MC Americans, as American’s life expectancy drops.

------------------------- a person should take care of their own body and if health goes to heck , just go to the Emergency Room as millions do every day Gipper . But NO as many beggars want healthcare and a room with tv and vegetarian , kosher or halall meals at the expense of other American Taxpayers Gipper .

So let’s keep the fraudulent system in place, to benefit the extreme wealthy. They get socialism and we get capitalism.

Why do you go against your self interest?

----------------------------- because there are American PRINCIPLES that i TRY to follow Gipper .

 

[gipper]

I agree. The time is right for Medicare For All. HC is now so fraudulent and ineffective, government control is the only option. Thanks to the greed of the capitalist big HC corporations and corrupt government, we have come to this.

really stupid idea. You are clueless

Yeah let’s continue to enrich the greedy bastards while bankrupting poor and MC Americans, as American’s life expectancy drops.

------------------------- a person should take care of their own body and if health goes to heck , just go to the Emergency Room as millions do every day Gipper . But NO as many beggars want healthcare and a room with tv and vegetarian , kosher or halall meals at the expense of other American Taxpayers Gipper .

So let’s keep the fraudulent system in place, to benefit the extreme wealthy. They get socialism and we get capitalism.

Why do you go against your self interest?

----------------------------- because there are American PRINCIPLES that i TRY to follow Gipper .

It’s not American having a HC system based on fraud, greed, and ineffectiveness that enriches the rich and bankrupts thousands of poor and mc Americans every year. It’s unamerican.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Health insurance for undocumented immigrants Texas

Delivering Health Care to Undocumented Immigrants

Primary care is delivered to this population at 1 of the 69 federally qualified health centers (FQHCs) in Texas or via safety net hospital systems. Both locations care for uninsured and indigent patients, regardless of citizenship.


Health Care for Undocumented Immigrants in Texas

and what is a FQHC??

Federally Qualified Health Center
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Jump to navigation Jump to search
A Federally Qualified Health Center (FQHC) is a reimbursement designation from the Bureau of Primary Health Care and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services of the United States Department of Health and Human Services. This designation is significant for several health programs funded under the Health Center Consolidation Act (Section 330 of the Public Health Service Act).

An FQHC is a community-based organization that provides comprehensive primary care and preventive care, including health, oral, and mental health/substance abuse services to persons of all ages, regardless of their ability to pay or health insurance status. Thus, they are a critical component of the health care safety net.[1] FQHCs are called Community/Migrant Health Centers (C/MHC), Community Health Centers (CHC), and 330 Funded Clinics. FQHCs are automatically designated as health professional shortage facilities.

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What republicans don't talk about , the Democrats do. Now you realize why the citizen question was added to the census, to decrease fed funds for Medicaid, so we can walk over dead illegals and the poor US citizens who can't afford healthcare.

Why should US taxpayers be obligated to pay for the healthcare of people who illegally broke into our country?

Make your case Jackboots

hey are now, already paying for illegal healthcare, its just not advertised and in red states.

Make your case for the Democrats. Why should US taxpayers be obligated to pay for the healthcare of people who illegally broke into our country?

There are two reasons.
Firstly, it is the right thing to do. Jesus healed the sick without asking for a policy number.
However I doubt that holds any sway with you and the faux Christian frothers.
The other reason is one of self interest.
Do you really want people with something like ebola wandering around spreading disease ?

Do you ?

I want people with Ebola wandering around their home countries. Stabilize the sick. Give them an aspirin and a bottle of water and deport them.

 

[pismoe]

and as i said , hey , i am poor though a third worlder would or may consider me and other Americans to be rich . I see no fraud , i go to the Doctor or Hospital in 1960 for the first time i was in Hospital and they fix my left leg . I think that my Dad paid out of pocket and he was feeding and housing 4 kids and my pregnant Mom in nice style . Now , with my knees possibly going to heck 60 years later i MIGHT get them replaced . I see no FRAUD and i'm happy that the Doctor is rich and lives in a Mansion Gipper .

 

[gipper]

and as i said , hey , i am poor though a third worlder would or may consider me and other Americans to be rich . I see no fraud , i go to the Doctor or Hospital in 1960 for the first time i was in Hospital and they fix my left leg . I think that my Dad paid out of pocket and he was feeding and housing 4 kids and my pregnant Mom in nice style . Now , with my knees possibly going to heck 60 years later i MIGHT get them replaced . I see no FRAUD and i'm happy that the Doctor is rich and lives in a Mansion Gipper .

You personal experience is anecdotal and means nothing. You need to get outside your little bubble and comprehend the bigger picture.

At any rate, you are using Medicare. Would you prefer having it removed and having to buy your own HC policy?

 

[pismoe]

make all the ASSUMPTIONS that you like . But the short answer is that no one is going to make ME buy anything that i don't want to buy Gipper .

 

[pismoe]

and my PERSONAL Experience is simply to inform the youngsters on the board as to the way things were in the USA . Quite often the Young don't know nuthin so i try to inform them Gipper .

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Health insurance for undocumented immigrants Texas

Delivering Health Care to Undocumented Immigrants

Primary care is delivered to this population at 1 of the 69 federally qualified health centers (FQHCs) in Texas or via safety net hospital systems. Both locations care for uninsured and indigent patients, regardless of citizenship.


Health Care for Undocumented Immigrants in Texas

and what is a FQHC??

Federally Qualified Health Center
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Jump to navigation Jump to search
A Federally Qualified Health Center (FQHC) is a reimbursement designation from the Bureau of Primary Health Care and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services of the United States Department of Health and Human Services. This designation is significant for several health programs funded under the Health Center Consolidation Act (Section 330 of the Public Health Service Act).

An FQHC is a community-based organization that provides comprehensive primary care and preventive care, including health, oral, and mental health/substance abuse services to persons of all ages, regardless of their ability to pay or health insurance status. Thus, they are a critical component of the health care safety net.[1] FQHCs are called Community/Migrant Health Centers (C/MHC), Community Health Centers (CHC), and 330 Funded Clinics. FQHCs are automatically designated as health professional shortage facilities.

-------------------------------------------------------
What republicans don't talk about , the Democrats do. Now you realize why the citizen question was added to the census, to decrease fed funds for Medicaid, so we can walk over dead illegals and the poor US citizens who can't afford healthcare.

Why should US taxpayers be obligated to pay for the healthcare of people who illegally broke into our country?

Make your case Jackboots

hey are now, already paying for illegal healthcare, its just not advertised and in red states.

Make your case for the Democrats. Why should US taxpayers be obligated to pay for the healthcare of people who illegally broke into our country?

There are two reasons.
Firstly, it is the right thing to do. Jesus healed the sick without asking for a policy number.
However I doubt that holds any sway with you and the faux Christian frothers.
The other reason is one of self interest.
Do you really want people with something like ebola wandering around spreading disease ?

Do you ?

I want people with Ebola wandering around their home countries. Stabilize the sick. Give them an aspirin and a bottle of water and deport them.

There is a gap between what you want and reality.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Why do you never answer any questions ?

Your question does not even pertain to GOVERNMENT health care. JESUS would have healed the sick personally and he directed us to do the same, this is what I'm telling you. NOT to pay taxes to conscript the healing away to far flung centralized gov't so that they can decide by death panels that you're too sick and old and you can die anyway or wait six months for you surgery.

This is exactly what I"m trying to say. You are saying Jesus Is Government.

No, He is not, never was and never will be.

Where did Jesus instruct us to set up insurance companies that heal according to the amount you can pay?

He didn't, but YOU are the one who invoked Jesus. I did not.

He told us to heal the sick. Which system trys to follow that?
One that provides health care for all?
Or one which excludes the poor?

Your Biblical illiteracy is amazing. Sad, but amazing.

He gave the disciples the POWER to heal the sick--a ctually the Holy Spirit did. Otherwise He did not except us to "heal" the sick, but to tend to them. And he left POLITICAL SYSTEMS ALONE

Run away Tommy you're losing again

It doesnt matter which political system you live under. You call me ignorant so point out where I have got the parable wrong. What is Jesus telling us with this story ?