Terrorists aren't a threat in the US! Nevah!

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    CAMDEN, N.J. (AP) - Five Muslim immigrants were convicted Monday of plotting to massacre U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix in a case that tested the FBI's post-Sept. 11 strategy of infiltrating and breaking up terrorist conspiracies in their earliest stages.
    The men could get life in prison when they are sentenced in April.

    The five, who lived in and around Philadelphia for years, were found guilty of conspiring to kill U.S. military personnel. But they were acquitted of attempted murder, after prosecutors acknowledged the men were probably months away from an attack and did not necessarily have a specific plan. Four defendants were also convicted of weapons charges...."

    This is the best part. According to idiots on this board, waterboarding makes terrorists, and we only have Muslim terrorists because we're in the Middle East. What a crock:

    "The government said after the arrests in 2007 that case underscored the dangers of terrorist plots hatched on U.S. soil. Although investigators said the conspirators were inspired by Osama bin Laden, they were not accused of any ties to foreign terror groups."

    5 Muslims convicted in NJ of plotting to kill GIs




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    waterboarding is torture...call it what it is
     
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    Waterboarding is waterboarding, and it has saved the lives of untold numbers of people.

    Compared to sawing off heads with dull knives, or hacking off the hands of children. Yup, it's really horrible.
     
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    waterboarding is torture why cant you just admit that and go with it...as dr phil says...own it...

    suffocation is always torture or really kinky sex games
     
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    Alright ... prove it. All of you who claim torturing for info has saved lives, prove it. We cannot prove it hasn't because in this matter a lack of proof for it working is proof it doesn't work, so prove it.
     
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    "A former CIA agent who participated in interrogations of terror suspects said Tuesday that the controversial interrogation technique of "waterboarding" has saved lives, but he considers the method torture and now opposes its use...
    "The former agent, who said he participated in the Abu Zubayda interrogation but not his waterboarding, said the CIA decided to waterboard the al Qaeda operative only after he was "wholly uncooperative" for weeks and refused to answer questions.

    "All that changed -- and Zubayda reportedly had a divine revelation -- after 30 to 35 seconds of waterboarding, Kiriakou said he learned from the CIA agents who performed the technique.

    The terror suspect, who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, reportedly gave up information that indirectly led to the the 2003 raid in Pakistan yielding the arrest of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, an alleged planner of the September 11, 2001, attacks, Kiriakou said...
    "The CIA was unaware of Mohammed's stature before the Abu Zubayda interrogation, the former agent said.

    "Abu Zubayda's the one who told us that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was so important in the al Qaeda structure, and we didn't realize at the time how important he was," Kiriakou said.

    Abu Zubayda also divulged information on "al Qaeda's leadership structure and mentioned people who we really didn't have any familiarization with [and] told us who we should be thinking about, who we should be looking at, and who was important in the organization so we were able to focus our investigation this way," Kiriakou said."

    Ex-CIA agent: Waterboarding 'saved lives' - CNN.com

    "Does waterboarding work? Without a doubt, yes. Abu Zubayda broke after 35 seconds of being waterboarded and, according to the man who did it, the information he gave let us stop “…a number of attacks, maybe dozens of attacks”.
    CIA Agent: Waterboarding Saved Lives | The Sundries Shack
     
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    Looks like I proved it.
     
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    Exactly what does waterboarding have to do with the 5 men convicted in the States?
     
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    Who knows.
     
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    It's a diversionary tactic to minimize the fact that there are Muslims in the US who want to kill us....not because we're in the middle east, and not because they've been waterboarded, but because they're Muslims and think they're on a mission from God.

    In other words, strolling can't accept the fact that we don't make them attack us. Which was what my reference to waterboarding in the original post was about..it was a reference to a past post by some idiot who claimed that waterboarding "made" terrorists.
     

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