Terrorism or Free Speech?

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

He screamed at a mother and her young child entering a synagogue. He told them they were gonna die. Does that change your opinion?

Don't be a pussy ... oops , too late... sticks and stones will break your bones.... pussy...

 

[Uncensored2008]

"Ethnic intimidation"? Could anyone of us be charged with that statute is Big Brother took an interest in us?

Yep, thought crime.

 

[Uncensored2008]

my buddy got 60 days in jail for ethnic intimidating back in the early 90s for calling a burger king clerk a dumbass ni**er. it happens. And yes he was an asshole.

Where was this? Where was the Anti-Civil Liberties Union?

 

[Uncensored2008]

trust me johnny earned his time in jail.

But that's it, I don't trust you - or anyone else - which is why we have a Bill of Rights; which is being trampled on.

 

[insolent imp]

But that's it, I don't trust you - or anyone else - which is why we have a Bill of Rights; which is being trampled on.

I watched him earn his trip to jail. He definitely earned it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I watched him earn his trip to jail. He definitely earned it.

By saying offensive words?

Have you ever heard of the 1st Amendment?

 

[insolent imp]

By saying offensive words?

Have you ever heard of the 1st Amendment?

well apparently screaming ni**er in a woman's face at burger King will get you arrested and charged.

 

[Uncensored2008]

well apparently screaming ni**er in a woman's face at burger King will get you arrested and charged.

If it does, such arrest violates the United States Constitution.

 

[insolent imp]

If it does, such arrest violates the United States Constitution.

nope afraid it doesn't.
It is unlawful to harass a person because of that person's race. Harassment can include, for example, racial slurs, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's race, or the display of racially-offensive symbols.

(1) A person is guilty of ethnic intimidation if that person maliciously, and with specific intent to intimidate or harass another person because of that person's race, color, religion, gender, or national origin, does any of the following: (a) Causes physical contact with another person.

 

[Uncensored2008]

nope afraid it doesn't.
It is unlawful to harass a person because of that person's race. Harassment can include, for example, racial slurs, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's race, or the display of racially-offensive symbols.

I'll see your thought crime and raise you a 1st Amendment.

(1) A person is guilty of ethnic intimidation if that person maliciously, and with specific intent to intimidate or harass another person because of that person's race, color, religion, gender, or national origin, does any of the following: (a) Causes physical contact with another person.

Words are not physical contact.

 

[insolent imp]

I'll see your thought crime and raise you a 1st Amendment.




Words are not physical contact.

look up the key words
harass and intimidation.

 

[Uncensored2008]

look up the key words
harass and intimidation.

Great - look up the 1st Amendment.

 

[insolent imp]

Great - look up the 1st Amendment.

the first doesn't apply to everything.

 

[Uncensored2008]

the first doesn't apply to everything.

Really?

Can you show the exceptions in the Constitution?

Congress shall make no law......

 

[insolent imp]

Really?

Can you show the exceptions in the Constitution?

Congress shall make no law......

a classic example is the yelling fire in a theater analogy. is it free speech or a danger to others?[

 

[Uncensored2008]

a classic example is the yelling fire in a theater analogy. is it free speech or a danger to others?[

Yes, the classic logical fallacy.

It's perfectly legal to yell fire in a theater.

{"Anyone who says 'you can't shout fire! in a crowded theatre' is showing that they don't know much about the principles of free speech, or free speech law—or history," Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression President Greg Lukianoff wrote in 2021. "This old canard, a favorite reference of censorship apologists, needs to be retired. It's repeatedly and inappropriately used to justify speech limitations."}

Yes, you can yell 'fire' in a crowded theater

SCOTUS Justice Alito recently repeated the common misconception that "shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater" is unprotected speech.

reason.com

Simply stated, you are free to shout "fire," but will be held responsible for the reaction caused. IF you create a panic and people are hurt or die, you can face criminal charges - for the damage cause. You may also face civil suits.

 

[insolent imp]

Yes, the classic logical fallacy.

It's perfectly legal to yell fire in a theater.

{"Anyone who says 'you can't shout fire! in a crowded theatre' is showing that they don't know much about the principles of free speech, or free speech law—or history," Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression President Greg Lukianoff wrote in 2021. "This old canard, a favorite reference of censorship apologists, needs to be retired. It's repeatedly and inappropriately used to justify speech limitations."}

Yes, you can yell 'fire' in a crowded theater

SCOTUS Justice Alito recently repeated the common misconception that "shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater" is unprotected speech.

reason.com

Simply stated, you are free to shout "fire," but will be held responsible for the reaction caused. IF you create a panic and people are hurt or die, you can face criminal charges - for the damage cause. You may also face civil suits.

then the same applies to a man screaming ni**er in a clerks face. glad we finally agree.

 

[Uncensored2008]

then the same applies to a man screaming ni**er in a clerks face. glad we finally agree.

Did it cause a panic? Did anyone get crushed?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

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[Carl in Michigan]

I'll see your thought crime and raise you a 1st Amendment.




Words are not physical contact.

"You're going to die" is not protected by the he First Amendment