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I don't revel in sadism, but I am firmly in support of this execution. I don't take enjoyment in him possibly being in discomfort from the drugs. Just don't care much. Call it apathy about his self-induced plight.Read the Constitution
Referring to the 8th?
"The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights (ratified December 15, 1791) prohibiting the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishment."
Yep, that would be it.
Appalling that these death-penalty freak wags above sit and revel in sadism. Even if one advocates the death penalty the idea is to rid society of the criminal, not to exact "revenge". That these freaks froth at the mouth over the sadism aspect just demonstrates the moral paucity of their position.
The simple fact is, those against death penalty are just using the possible pain aspect of the drugs as a means to prevent executions as a whole. If every state would do away with this drug concoction and use something that was completely painless, they would still try to twist that into 'cruel and unusual'.
Referring to the 8th?
"The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights (ratified December 15, 1791) prohibiting the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishment."
Yep, that would be it.
Appalling that these death-penalty freak wags above sit and revel in sadism. Even if one advocates the death penalty the idea is to rid society of the criminal, not to exact "revenge". That these freaks froth at the mouth over the sadism aspect just demonstrates the moral paucity of their position.
sadism?
I'd be happy if they felt 1/10th of the pain, suffering, and torture they visited on thier victims.
See what I mean? You just went down the same hole. Death is a one-zero proposition; it's either death or life, not the 'degrees' sadists cream their jeans over.
What's sailing over all y'all's heads is this -------------- your emotions are irrelevant. Once you start running on that you're in deep doodoo.
what a shame, I'm not an effing computer.
emotions?
yea..
10 years of dealing with assholes like that, bragging about what they did, makes it kind of hard to maintain an unemotional stance
Doesn't matter, it's gotta be did.
Put simply, if you're unable to divorce your emotions from justice, then you're not qualified to be dispensing the latter. Obviously some klown in Tennessee is unqualified.
No amount of sadism brings the victim back; all it does is feed the sadists.
Interestingly the state has a law pending that would prohibit this kind of administration of the mentally ill. So it could soon make what it just did, illegal.
Doesn't matter, it's gotta be did.
Put simply, if you're unable to divorce your emotions from justice, then you're not qualified to be dispensing the latter. Obviously some klown in Tennessee is unqualified.
No amount of sadism brings the victim back; all it does is feed the sadists.
Interestingly the state has a law pending that would prohibit this kind of administration of the mentally ill. So it could soon make what it just did, illegal.
Like I said earlier..
I'm not an effing computer.
I doubt the judge and jury that decided his fate were either.
(I'm sorry to hear you are)
Again --- I'm in no way immune to the emotion, and I get it and share it.
But I also know where its place is, and where it isn't. And it's got no place here. When you're sentencing this criminal you're sentencing on behalf of the citizenry and its society and its Law --- not to indulge your own emotions.So what if it violates the constituent, right? It’s nit like that document means anything to your ilk anywayGood news! ... Need to see more of this ... and at faster pace(s).
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How does it violate the constitution? After all the constitution specifically references execution:
The 5th Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.[92]
That's EIGHTH Amendment, Sprinkles. 8th. As was specifically pointed out on page 1 here.
How can the Death penalty be considered cruel and unusual if it is specifically referenced as a valid punishment in the same document?
Yep, that would be it.
Appalling that these death-penalty freak wags above sit and revel in sadism. Even if one advocates the death penalty the idea is to rid society of the criminal, not to exact "revenge". That these freaks froth at the mouth over the sadism aspect just demonstrates the moral paucity of their position.
sadism?
I'd be happy if they felt 1/10th of the pain, suffering, and torture they visited on thier victims.
See what I mean? You just went down the same hole. Death is a one-zero proposition; it's either death or life, not the 'degrees' sadists cream their jeans over.
What's sailing over all y'all's heads is this -------------- your emotions are irrelevant. Once you start running on that you're in deep doodoo.
what a shame, I'm not an effing computer.
emotions?
yea..
10 years of dealing with assholes like that, bragging about what they did, makes it kind of hard to maintain an unemotional stance
Doesn't matter, it's gotta be did.
Put simply, if you're unable to divorce your emotions from justice, then you're not qualified to be dispensing the latter. Obviously some klown in Tennessee is unqualified.
No amount of sadism brings the victim back; all it does is feed the sadists.
Interestingly the state has a law pending that would prohibit this kind of administration of the mentally ill. So it could soon make what it just did, illegal.
I have zero human sympathy or empathy for child murderers and paedophiles. I do not give a crap if they suffer, I WANT them to suffer for what they did to innocent children. If that means I am a sadist, then okay I am a sadist.
Read the Constitution
Referring to the 8th?
"The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights (ratified December 15, 1791) prohibiting the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishment."
sadism?
I'd be happy if they felt 1/10th of the pain, suffering, and torture they visited on thier victims.
See what I mean? You just went down the same hole. Death is a one-zero proposition; it's either death or life, not the 'degrees' sadists cream their jeans over.
What's sailing over all y'all's heads is this -------------- your emotions are irrelevant. Once you start running on that you're in deep doodoo.
what a shame, I'm not an effing computer.
emotions?
yea..
10 years of dealing with assholes like that, bragging about what they did, makes it kind of hard to maintain an unemotional stance
Doesn't matter, it's gotta be did.
Put simply, if you're unable to divorce your emotions from justice, then you're not qualified to be dispensing the latter. Obviously some klown in Tennessee is unqualified.
No amount of sadism brings the victim back; all it does is feed the sadists.
Interestingly the state has a law pending that would prohibit this kind of administration of the mentally ill. So it could soon make what it just did, illegal.
I have zero human sympathy or empathy for child murderers and paedophiles. I do not give a crap if they suffer, I WANT them to suffer for what they did to innocent children. If that means I am a sadist, then okay I am a sadist.
Well at least you're honest. And that's exactly what I respect about you.
Read the Constitution
Referring to the 8th?
"The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights (ratified December 15, 1791) prohibiting the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishment."
"or cruel and unusual punishment."
What these wastes of human skin do to innocent children also is cruel and unusual, so who cares what suffering they have when being executed.
Like I said earlier..
I'm not an effing computer.
I doubt the judge and jury that decided his fate were either.
(I'm sorry to hear you are)
Again --- I'm in no way immune to the emotion, and I get it and share it.
But I also know where its place is, and where it isn't. And it's got no place here. When you're sentencing this criminal you're sentencing on behalf of the citizenry and its society and its Law --- not to indulge your own emotions.So what if it violates the constituent, right? It’s nit like that document means anything to your ilk anywayGood news! ... Need to see more of this ... and at faster pace(s).
Tennessee executes child killer Billy Ray Irick with drug that inflicts 'torturous pain'
Tennessee has carried out its first execution in nearly a decade using a controversial cocktail of drugs including a lethal ingredient described by the Supreme ...
The Independent
yesterday
Reporter describes Bill Ray Irick's final words | Watch News Videos Online
Tennessee executed it's first inmate in a decade Thursday night. Bill Ray Irick was sentenced to death for the rape and murder of 7-year-old Paula Dyer in Knox ...
Globalnews.ca
yesterday
How does it violate the constitution? After all the constitution specifically references execution:
The 5th Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.[92]
That's EIGHTH Amendment, Sprinkles. 8th. As was specifically pointed out on page 1 here.
How can the Death penalty be considered cruel and unusual if it is specifically referenced as a valid punishment in the same document?
Can you read at all?
See what I mean? You just went down the same hole. Death is a one-zero proposition; it's either death or life, not the 'degrees' sadists cream their jeans over.
What's sailing over all y'all's heads is this -------------- your emotions are irrelevant. Once you start running on that you're in deep doodoo.
what a shame, I'm not an effing computer.
emotions?
yea..
10 years of dealing with assholes like that, bragging about what they did, makes it kind of hard to maintain an unemotional stance
Doesn't matter, it's gotta be did.
Put simply, if you're unable to divorce your emotions from justice, then you're not qualified to be dispensing the latter. Obviously some klown in Tennessee is unqualified.
No amount of sadism brings the victim back; all it does is feed the sadists.
Interestingly the state has a law pending that would prohibit this kind of administration of the mentally ill. So it could soon make what it just did, illegal.
I have zero human sympathy or empathy for child murderers and paedophiles. I do not give a crap if they suffer, I WANT them to suffer for what they did to innocent children. If that means I am a sadist, then okay I am a sadist.
Well at least you're honest. And that's exactly what I respect about you.
There are only a few things I cannot tolerate on ANY level, cruelty to animals and child murderers and paedophiles, I have Zero Tolerance.
Again --- I'm in no way immune to the emotion, and I get it and share it.
But I also know where its place is, and where it isn't. And it's got no place here. When you're sentencing this criminal you're sentencing on behalf of the citizenry and its society and its Law --- not to indulge your own emotions.So what if it violates the constituent, right? It’s nit like that document means anything to your ilk anyway
How does it violate the constitution? After all the constitution specifically references execution:
The 5th Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.[92]
That's EIGHTH Amendment, Sprinkles. 8th. As was specifically pointed out on page 1 here.
How can the Death penalty be considered cruel and unusual if it is specifically referenced as a valid punishment in the same document?
Can you read at all?
About what? The pain caused by the drug? Oh wait Tennessee wants to use other drugs, but is being stopped by the manufacturers and others as an end run attempt to nullify the existing laws allowing the DP.
Sorry, but if your side wants to play those games, you can;t then whine about the states having to try something else.
Too short a pain
the scum child killer is suffering
just too short
not fair
How does it violate the constitution? After all the constitution specifically references execution:
The 5th Amendment:
That's EIGHTH Amendment, Sprinkles. 8th. As was specifically pointed out on page 1 here.
How can the Death penalty be considered cruel and unusual if it is specifically referenced as a valid punishment in the same document?
Can you read at all?
About what? The pain caused by the drug? Oh wait Tennessee wants to use other drugs, but is being stopped by the manufacturers and others as an end run attempt to nullify the existing laws allowing the DP.
Sorry, but if your side wants to play those games, you can;t then whine about the states having to try something else.
My "side"??
My "side" is the United States Constitution. Pray, what other "side" is there?
what a shame, I'm not an effing computer.
emotions?
yea..
10 years of dealing with assholes like that, bragging about what they did, makes it kind of hard to maintain an unemotional stance
Doesn't matter, it's gotta be did.
Put simply, if you're unable to divorce your emotions from justice, then you're not qualified to be dispensing the latter. Obviously some klown in Tennessee is unqualified.
No amount of sadism brings the victim back; all it does is feed the sadists.
Interestingly the state has a law pending that would prohibit this kind of administration of the mentally ill. So it could soon make what it just did, illegal.
I have zero human sympathy or empathy for child murderers and paedophiles. I do not give a crap if they suffer, I WANT them to suffer for what they did to innocent children. If that means I am a sadist, then okay I am a sadist.
Well at least you're honest. And that's exactly what I respect about you.
There are only a few things I cannot tolerate on ANY level, cruelty to animals and child murderers and paedophiles, I have Zero Tolerance.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. But there's our personal tolerance --- and then there's the Law.
We can't mix them up.
That's EIGHTH Amendment, Sprinkles. 8th. As was specifically pointed out on page 1 here.
How can the Death penalty be considered cruel and unusual if it is specifically referenced as a valid punishment in the same document?
Can you read at all?
About what? The pain caused by the drug? Oh wait Tennessee wants to use other drugs, but is being stopped by the manufacturers and others as an end run attempt to nullify the existing laws allowing the DP.
Sorry, but if your side wants to play those games, you can;t then whine about the states having to try something else.
My "side"??
My "side" is the United States Constitution. Pray, what other "side" is there?
No, your side is "I don't like the Death Penalty". The Constitution allows for it. The 5th amendment specifically references "life and limb" with regards to double jeopardy.
Your side wants to override the will of the people with pharmaceutical games, then whines when the replacement drugs may not be as quick or painless as the ones that were originally to be used.
Look, these people are heinous pieces of filth, but how can anyone support this treatment of them?
How can the Death penalty be considered cruel and unusual if it is specifically referenced as a valid punishment in the same document?
Can you read at all?
About what? The pain caused by the drug? Oh wait Tennessee wants to use other drugs, but is being stopped by the manufacturers and others as an end run attempt to nullify the existing laws allowing the DP.
Sorry, but if your side wants to play those games, you can;t then whine about the states having to try something else.
My "side"??
My "side" is the United States Constitution. Pray, what other "side" is there?
No, your side is "I don't like the Death Penalty". The Constitution allows for it. The 5th amendment specifically references "life and limb" with regards to double jeopardy.
Your side wants to override the will of the people with pharmaceutical games, then whines when the replacement drugs may not be as quick or painless as the ones that were originally to be used.
So you ARE completely illiterate.
For the SIXTH (6th) TIME NOW this thread is not about the death penalty. READ IT.
Can you read at all?
About what? The pain caused by the drug? Oh wait Tennessee wants to use other drugs, but is being stopped by the manufacturers and others as an end run attempt to nullify the existing laws allowing the DP.
Sorry, but if your side wants to play those games, you can;t then whine about the states having to try something else.
My "side"??
My "side" is the United States Constitution. Pray, what other "side" is there?
No, your side is "I don't like the Death Penalty". The Constitution allows for it. The 5th amendment specifically references "life and limb" with regards to double jeopardy.
Your side wants to override the will of the people with pharmaceutical games, then whines when the replacement drugs may not be as quick or painless as the ones that were originally to be used.
So you ARE completely illiterate.
For the SIXTH (6th) TIME NOW this thread is not about the death penalty. READ IT.
Yes, it is about the death penalty. You have stated your obvious opposition to it. in this case the issue is with the backup drugs the State has to use because of the asshattery of the drug companies making the drugs the STATE WANTS TO USE to make the condemned's suffering as minimal as possible.
