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    public sector workers get paid so much, have practically free benefits, free retirement, and almost never get fired? Because we the taxpayers are paying for it!!
    Suckers.....
     
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    some public sector workers get paid a fortune, like many of those working in DC.... and some public sector workers, don't get paid alot, like teachers...for the most part....yes, in some states they get fairly good money, but in most states they are paid lower than those in the private sector with the same level of education is what I read about 4 years ago....
     
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    I'm a public sector worker, and wish I got paid a fortune, to be honest, if there are public sector workers making a fortune, I would like to know where they are and what they are doing, because I don't see it anywhere.
    I make $48,000 a year working in a Federal Prison, it's average pay for the job, I am in no way rich or getting rich from it.
    I think that the media is spinning this whole public sector thing, and some of you are buying into it, it's not the worker, it's the union leadership that is making the fortune.
     
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    What defines "paid so much?"


    Every career at the CIA is a rewarding one. In addition to serving your country with the certainty that your work makes a difference, the CIA offers a comprehensive benefits package to reflect the dedication and contributions of our employees.


    WORK LIFE BALANCE

    Paid Time Off
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    Moving Expenses
    Personal and Family Support
    Family Advisory Board
    Dependent Scholarships
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    Education and Training
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    Yep.
    In most cases the politician who made these contracts with them is long out of office before the pensions and in some cases legacy medical costs come due.

    Once the union foot is in the door its hard to swing that bastard shut again.

    Who's left to blame?? Good question.
     
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    I'm hoping you're not suggesting that public sector workers don't pay taxes. You cannot separate the two populations-because the public sector workers are a part of the taxpayers.

    With that said teachers are underpaid (at least here in Florida). They make about $45K per year or so.Their salaries has to be compared to others who have their credentials (college graduates). This is well below what the median income for college grads is here. So the benefits they receive (that they pay into-just as much as anybody else does), are more incentive to get better public workers.

    The less money/benefits we give to public sector workers like firefighters, police officers, teachers-the more that ones who's more qualified are going to seek employment else where.
     
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    Because they pay dues which are in turn funneled into Democrat coffers, and in return your tax dollars are used to reward them with generous benefits to ensure said taxdollars keep flowing into Democrat coffers.
     
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    governments are broke because of the Wall street shenanigans and crash which has caused the recession...to blame the workers is a bit of an over reach....and some jealousy in there too, i suppose....

    Sure, I believe that there needs to be reform in some of their benefits due to the crisis we are in and due to the fact that many of these benefits that they got from negotiations years ago, they got because the gvt needed to keep up with the benefits of the private sector...but the private sector for the most part, got rid of those benefits little by little, like retirement pensions, a good 20 years ago... and moved on to the 401k/company match....the private sector also had moved on to making the worker contribute more and more for their own health insurance.....many of those benefits that gvt workers have gotten and kept, are disintegrating in the private sector....

    I agree Reform is needed, like having them contribute a higher percentage towards their benefits, comparable to the private sector....but to abolish negotiating with the union, is not necessary, imo
     
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    Public sector workers give up the opportunity to share in the growth of a company. For most public sector workers, new job positions are rarely created. So to advance one may have to wait many years for a higher level position to open up. As a government worker, you'll never get a bonus because you or your organization did well or stock options or profit sharing.

    In order to keep employees, government offers stable employment and often better healthcare and retirement benefits as compared to private industry. Without these benefits, there is little reason to work for the government.
     
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    Graphically represented:

    Taxpayer $$$ -> Government $$ -> Public Sector Employees $$-> Union $$-> Democrats/Government $$ -> Public Sector Employees.
     
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