Tea Party leaders and Republican leaders are some of the most unpatriotic...

[nitroz]

Tea Party leaders and 2001-Current Republican leaders are some of the most unpatriotic Americans who have ever been in office.

There, I said it.




There is alot of claim about obama and dems being unpatriotic, but lets dissect this a bit.

First up, The Patriot Act and it's predasessors.

Combating Terrorism Act of 2001 - Introduced by Republican Senators Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and Jon Kyl (R-AZ) with Democratic Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY)

Next, the Public Safety and Cyber Security Enhancement Act - It was introduced by Republican Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX).

Now the Financial Anti-Terrorism Act - It was introduced by Republican Representative Mike Oxley (R-OH)

History of the Patriot Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bill Summary & Status - 107th Congress (2001 - 2002) - S.AMDT.1562 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Bill Text - 107th Congress (2001-2002) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/107/hr3004



Patriot act Yea's/Nay's for the passing of the house on 24 Oct 2001

Republican: Yeas - 211 Nay's - 3

Democrat: Yeas - 145 Nay's - 62


Senate Passed the bill with an overwhelming 99% approval

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll398.xml

U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote


The bill was signed into Law by Republican George W Bush






Big money and conservative movements

Freedom Partners -

The organization, which has ties with the Koch Brothers,[5] awards grants to advocacy organizations with the goal of raising public awareness about "important societal and economic issues".[3] Freedom Partners gave grants worth a total of $236 million to conservative organizations including Tea Party groups like the Tea Party Patriots and organizations which opposed the Affordable Care Act prior to the 2012 election. A majority of Freedom Partners board is made up of long time employees of the Koch brothers.

Freedom Partners - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/u...nt-at-extent-of-koch-brothers-reach.html?_r=0

Koch Brothers Break New Ground in Dark Money - NationalJournal.com

Koch Brothers Respond To Report On Freedom Partners, Their New Political Organization



Mitt Romney Presidential Campaign -

In July 2012, David H. Koch hosted a $50,000-a-person ($75,000 a couple) fundraising dinner for 2012 Republican Party Presidential candidate Mitt Romney, which was the subject of liberal and progressive protests.[15][67][68][69] Koch Industries cited the protests an example of what they see as liberal hypocrisy regarding fundraising as these same groups don't protest big money donations for Democratic fundraisers.[70] William Koch, the younger brother of Charles and David, gave $1 million to Restore Our Future, a super-PAC backing Romney.[15] During the 2008 presidential race, David Koch donated $2,300 to Romney.[15]

Romney's `Koch Problem:' $3 Million - Bloomberg

Protesters raise cloud of sand as Romney raises $3 million in N.Y. - Los Angeles Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/08/f...n-weekend-in-the-hamptons.html?pagewanted=all

 

[JakeStarkey]

Wow, they sound as organized as the Soros folks on the left.

Extremists at either end of the spectrum are. . . extreme.

 

[blackhawk]

A lot of partisan bull shit there.

 

[Vigilante]

You subversives, of course have absolutely NO IDEA about this, do you, children?


It is well know that the far left has taken full control of the Democrat Party, and now more than every, more Democrat members of Congress are extreme leftists. The Democratic Socialists of America, the Socialist Party in the United States, reports that 69 members of Congress and one senator, Bernie Sander who is an admitted socialist, are members of their organization. Six of the ten members of the Congressional delegation from Massachusetts are on that list.

And those 70 TRAITORS are looking to help destroy America as we knew it!

Sorry to burst your bubble!

 

[The2ndAmendment]

I hear Obama aids, supports, funds and trains Al Qaeda in Syria, is that considered patriotic?

Syrian rebels pledge loyalty to al-Qaeda

As Ted Cruz asked: "Why is the US Al Qaeda's air force?"

 

[Billo_Really]

Wow, they sound as organized as the Soros folks on the left.

Extremists at either end of the spectrum are. . . extreme.

There is no comparison between the left and the right, when it comes to networking and getting your message out.

The right is light years ahead of the left on that one.

 

[Billo_Really]

A lot of partisan bull shit there.

Not from opensecrets.org

Those are raw numbers.

 

[bayoubill]

Tea Party leaders and 2001-Current Republican leaders are some of the most unpatriotic Americans who have ever been in office.

There, I said it.




There is alot of claim about obama and dems being unpatriotic, but lets dissect this a bit.

First up, The Patriot Act and it's predasessors.

Combating Terrorism Act of 2001 - Introduced by Republican Senators Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and Jon Kyl (R-AZ) with Democratic Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY)

Next, the Public Safety and Cyber Security Enhancement Act - It was introduced by Republican Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX).

Now the Financial Anti-Terrorism Act - It was introduced by Republican Representative Mike Oxley (R-OH)

History of the Patriot Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bill Summary & Status - 107th Congress (2001 - 2002) - S.AMDT.1562 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Bill Text - 107th Congress (2001-2002) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/107/hr3004



Patriot act Yea's/Nay's for the passing of the house on 24 Oct 2001

Republican: Yeas - 211 Nay's - 3

Democrat: Yeas - 145 Nay's - 62


Senate Passed the bill with an overwhelming 99% approval

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll398.xml

U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote


The bill was signed into Law by Republican George W Bush






Big money and conservative movements

Freedom Partners -

The organization, which has ties with the Koch Brothers,[5] awards grants to advocacy organizations with the goal of raising public awareness about "important societal and economic issues".[3] Freedom Partners gave grants worth a total of $236 million to conservative organizations including Tea Party groups like the Tea Party Patriots and organizations which opposed the Affordable Care Act prior to the 2012 election. A majority of Freedom Partners board is made up of long time employees of the Koch brothers.

Freedom Partners - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/u...nt-at-extent-of-koch-brothers-reach.html?_r=0

Koch Brothers Break New Ground in Dark Money - NationalJournal.com

Koch Brothers Respond To Report On Freedom Partners, Their New Political Organization



Mitt Romney Presidential Campaign -

In July 2012, David H. Koch hosted a $50,000-a-person ($75,000 a couple) fundraising dinner for 2012 Republican Party Presidential candidate Mitt Romney, which was the subject of liberal and progressive protests.[15][67][68][69] Koch Industries cited the protests an example of what they see as liberal hypocrisy regarding fundraising as these same groups don't protest big money donations for Democratic fundraisers.[70] William Koch, the younger brother of Charles and David, gave $1 million to Restore Our Future, a super-PAC backing Romney.[15] During the 2008 presidential race, David Koch donated $2,300 to Romney.[15]

Romney's `Koch Problem:' $3 Million - Bloomberg

Protesters raise cloud of sand as Romney raises $3 million in N.Y. - Los Angeles Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/08/f...n-weekend-in-the-hamptons.html?pagewanted=all

define "unpatriotic"...

 

[Katzndogz]

The time has come to split. Then no one need be unpatriotic.

Every one is patriotic. They are just patriotic to two different countries.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Wow, they sound as organized as the Soros folks on the left.

Extremists at either end of the spectrum are. . . extreme.

There is no comparison between the left and the right, when it comes to networking and getting your message out.

The right is light years ahead of the left on that one.

The left's message goes out on a daily basis, across every television screen and in practically every major newspaper of note.

Talk about your networking.

 

[blackhawk]

A lot of partisan bull shit there.

Not from opensecrets.org

Those are raw numbers.

Dude the left does the same thing the partisan bull shit is people pretending like they don't.

 

[KNB]

You subversives, of course have absolutely NO IDEA about this, do you, children?


It is well know that the far left has taken full control of the Democrat Party, and now more than every, more Democrat members of Congress are extreme leftists. The Democratic Socialists of America, the Socialist Party in the United States, reports that 69 members of Congress and one senator, Bernie Sander who is an admitted socialist, are members of their organization. Six of the ten members of the Congressional delegation from Massachusetts are on that list.

And those 70 TRAITORS are looking to help destroy America as we knew it!

Sorry to burst your bubble!

You should really change your profile picture because you have no idea what that story was about. V fought against right-wing totalitarianism. Have you never read it?

 

[KNB]

Wow, they sound as organized as the Soros folks on the left.

Extremists at either end of the spectrum are. . . extreme.

There is no comparison between the left and the right, when it comes to networking and getting your message out.

The right is light years ahead of the left on that one.

The left's message goes out on a daily basis, across every television screen and in practically every major newspaper of note.

Talk about your networking.

Those television channels and newspapers are owned by the 1%. If what you're saying is true then the wealthy elite wouldn't be making 95% of the money while everyone else struggles to get by. The liberal media would have brainwashed everyone to vote to have the 1%'s fortunes redistributed to lazy moocher drug users. The idea that there are liberal mass media influencing American politics is a lie created by corporate media to convince dumbasses who listen to corporate media that the liberal media run everything, then the morons ignore the corporate media's lies and vote Republican because they're afraid of the evil liberal media.

Don't compare FOX to MSNBC. They're both designed to misinform their audiences. A truly informed electorate is not in the best interests of the 1%, so they convince idiots to fight against the fictitious might of the liberal media instead of fighting against the real might of the corporate media.

That's real networking. Read The New Media Monopoly by Ben Bagdikian.

 

[Vigilante]

You subversives, of course have absolutely NO IDEA about this, do you, children?


It is well know that the far left has taken full control of the Democrat Party, and now more than every, more Democrat members of Congress are extreme leftists. The Democratic Socialists of America, the Socialist Party in the United States, reports that 69 members of Congress and one senator, Bernie Sander who is an admitted socialist, are members of their organization. Six of the ten members of the Congressional delegation from Massachusetts are on that list.

And those 70 TRAITORS are looking to help destroy America as we knew it!

Sorry to burst your bubble!

You should really change your profile picture because you have no idea what that story was about. V fought against right-wing totalitarianism. Have you never read it?

Is that what you thought......

He was fighting the Fascist LEFT!

 

[KevinWestern]

Tea Party leaders and 2001-Current Republican leaders are some of the most unpatriotic Americans who have ever been in office.

There, I said it.

Instead of reducing the argument down to a simplistic "Republicans are this, Democrats are that" argument, how about we just call out ALL of the Unpatriotic Congresspeople/Presidents and leave the party labels behind.

On 1/1/2012 at 12:00am Barack Obama signed the NDAA 2012 Act (sneaky bastard) which made it legal for him to detain US citizens - who are determined to be "terrorists" - indefinitely. This is blatantly Unconstitutional. He claimed he had "great reservations" about that section but had no choice but to sign to ensure military funding. In June of that year a district judge ruled the indefinite detention clause Unconstitutional (obviously) because as Americans we have a right to a trial by a jury of our peers.

Obama, despite the fact that funding had already been granted by this point, swooped in like a wicked little bird and forced an appeal of the decision. He (basically) said that it is essential that this provision remain in place. I call that about as Unpatriotic as it gets.

Again, lets not try to simplify the argument here; there are many Unpatriotic pieces of sh$t on both sides of the aisle and no one should get a free pass because of some worthless "party" designation. They are meaningless. There are good Republicans just as there are good Democrats.

 

[Avatar4321]

Who knew advocating for the Constitution and fiscal sanity was unpatriotic?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Wow, they sound as organized as the Soros folks on the left.

Extremists at either end of the spectrum are. . . extreme.

There is no comparison between the left and the right, when it comes to networking and getting your message out.

The right is light years ahead of the left on that one.

but Dean says the left is where all the educated people are.....how can a bunch of uneducated morons be light years ahead?.....

 

[FA_Q2]

Tea Party leaders and 2001-Current Republican leaders are some of the most unpatriotic Americans who have ever been in office.

There, I said it.




There is alot of claim about obama and dems being unpatriotic, but lets dissect this a bit.

First up, The Patriot Act and it's predasessors.

Combating Terrorism Act of 2001 - Introduced by Republican Senators Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and Jon Kyl (R-AZ) with Democratic Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY)

Next, the Public Safety and Cyber Security Enhancement Act - It was introduced by Republican Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX).

Now the Financial Anti-Terrorism Act - It was introduced by Republican Representative Mike Oxley (R-OH)

History of the Patriot Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bill Summary & Status - 107th Congress (2001 - 2002) - S.AMDT.1562 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Bill Text - 107th Congress (2001-2002) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/107/hr3004



Patriot act Yea's/Nay's for the passing of the house on 24 Oct 2001

Republican: Yeas - 211 Nay's - 3

Democrat: Yeas - 145 Nay's - 62


Senate Passed the bill with an overwhelming 99% approval

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll398.xml

U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote


The bill was signed into Law by Republican George W Bush






Big money and conservative movements

Freedom Partners -

The organization, which has ties with the Koch Brothers,[5] awards grants to advocacy organizations with the goal of raising public awareness about "important societal and economic issues".[3] Freedom Partners gave grants worth a total of $236 million to conservative organizations including Tea Party groups like the Tea Party Patriots and organizations which opposed the Affordable Care Act prior to the 2012 election. A majority of Freedom Partners board is made up of long time employees of the Koch brothers.

Freedom Partners - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/u...nt-at-extent-of-koch-brothers-reach.html?_r=0

Koch Brothers Break New Ground in Dark Money - NationalJournal.com

Koch Brothers Respond To Report On Freedom Partners, Their New Political Organization



Mitt Romney Presidential Campaign -

In July 2012, David H. Koch hosted a $50,000-a-person ($75,000 a couple) fundraising dinner for 2012 Republican Party Presidential candidate Mitt Romney, which was the subject of liberal and progressive protests.[15][67][68][69] Koch Industries cited the protests an example of what they see as liberal hypocrisy regarding fundraising as these same groups don't protest big money donations for Democratic fundraisers.[70] William Koch, the younger brother of Charles and David, gave $1 million to Restore Our Future, a super-PAC backing Romney.[15] During the 2008 presidential race, David Koch donated $2,300 to Romney.[15]

Romney's `Koch Problem:' $3 Million - Bloomberg

Protesters raise cloud of sand as Romney raises $3 million in N.Y. - Los Angeles Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/08/f...n-weekend-in-the-hamptons.html?pagewanted=all

How incredibly partisan of you. Why does your Op not include the half dozen times that the PA has be reauthorized? Some happening when the dems had control over the legislator and the presidency. I wonder why that would be….

 

[Billo_Really]

but Dean says the left is where all the educated people are.....how can a bunch of uneducated morons be light years ahead?.....

They invest in right-wing media infrastructure, the left does not.

The right completely dominates in every form of media...

- from the O'Reilly Factor and Fox on cable TV
- to Pumpkin-head and Savage on radio
- to Little Green Footballs on the internet​

...the right gets their message out 24/7 on a constant basis.

The left is no where near that. Just look what happened to Air America.

This is one of the things the right could teach the left.

 

[FA_Q2]

but Dean says the left is where all the educated people are.....how can a bunch of uneducated morons be light years ahead?.....

They invest in right-wing media infrastructure, the left does not.

The right completely dominates in every form of media...

- from the O'Reilly Factor and Fox on cable TV
- to Pumpkin-head and Savage on radio
- to Little Green Footballs on the internet​

...the right gets their message out 24/7 on a constant basis.

The left is no where near that. Just look what happened to Air America.

This is one of the things the right could teach the left.

The pathetic part is that you actually believe that tripe. Only recently has fox managed to climb to the top of the ratings charts. Previously, liberal thought was king in virtually ALL of televisions messaging. Now, you only lack a liberal slant over a single channel and you are complaining. You know why fox gets such good ratings? Because there is no competition. They are the SOLE conservative view out there. Radio the conservatives have though liberals are also represented on the radio to a lesser degree than conservatives. Print media is firmly in the liberal’s court and the internet – don’t make me laugh. Liberals have a huge advantage there and always have. The democrats are far better and faster at integrating new tech into their messaging. It likely has something to do with the age disparity that liberals tend to draw – the younger crowd is more liberal than conservative.