Tea Party is the biggest threat to the GOP

[bigrebnc1775]

The moderate vs conservative war in the Republican Party has been going on since Teddy Roosevelt's presidency. It went ballistic when they had to choose between Rockefeller and Goldwater. Now, the conservative wing is on warp drive. The two sides would not even be able to decide where to have lunch, much less agree on a platform. Since the moderates have always been about compromise and pragmatism, it is the Conservatives who leave their fingerprints on policy and platform of the republicans. Trying to get the majority of Americans to agree to their extremism is a hopeless task. So far the republicans have been able to get away with letting the conservatives pick the election agenda, and then the moderates only give lib service to the same after the election (Reagan was a master at doing that). The Tea Party is getting wise to that, and are starting to hold the moderates accountable after elections. This is where the real fun begins....

conservatism is not extreme. the founders were fically conservative, the constitution is a conservative document. freedom is a conservative belief. the problem is that it is very hard to remove people from the government teat once they are attached.

The founders had no money. We were deeply in debt

They had no choice but to be fiscallyconservative

The FF didn't want a big Fed Govt. They wanted the States to have the power.

They were conservative because thats the way folks were back then. They didn't expect anyone to give them money or take care of them. They took care of themselves.

Hell. They'd turn over in their graves if they could see the Fed Govt of today and the people with their hands out for other peoples money. Doubt they would like what they see at all.

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

 

[rightwinger]

The moderate vs conservative war in the Republican Party has been going on since Teddy Roosevelt's presidency. It went ballistic when they had to choose between Rockefeller and Goldwater. Now, the conservative wing is on warp drive. The two sides would not even be able to decide where to have lunch, much less agree on a platform. Since the moderates have always been about compromise and pragmatism, it is the Conservatives who leave their fingerprints on policy and platform of the republicans. Trying to get the majority of Americans to agree to their extremism is a hopeless task. So far the republicans have been able to get away with letting the conservatives pick the election agenda, and then the moderates only give lib service to the same after the election (Reagan was a master at doing that). The Tea Party is getting wise to that, and are starting to hold the moderates accountable after elections. This is where the real fun begins....

conservatism is not extreme. the founders were fically conservative, the constitution is a conservative document. freedom is a conservative belief. the problem is that it is very hard to remove people from the government teat once they are attached.

The founders had no money. We were deeply in debt

They had no choice but to be fiscallyconservative

The FF didn't want a big Fed Govt. They wanted the States to have the power.

They were conservative because thats the way folks were back then. They didn't expect anyone to give them money or take care of them. They took care of themselves.

Hell. They'd turn over in their graves if they could see the Fed Govt of today and the people with their hands out for other peoples money. Doubt they would like what they see at all.

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

 

[The Rabbi]

conservatism is not extreme. the founders were fically conservative, the constitution is a conservative document. freedom is a conservative belief. the problem is that it is very hard to remove people from the government teat once they are attached.

The founders had no money. We were deeply in debt

They had no choice but to be fiscallyconservative

The FF didn't want a big Fed Govt. They wanted the States to have the power.

They were conservative because thats the way folks were back then. They didn't expect anyone to give them money or take care of them. They took care of themselves.

Hell. They'd turn over in their graves if they could see the Fed Govt of today and the people with their hands out for other peoples money. Doubt they would like what they see at all.

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Aha. So that's why libs don't support individual rights, freedom of choice, or business policies that cause an increase in wealth.

 

[rightwinger]

The founders had no money. We were deeply in debt

They had no choice but to be fiscallyconservative

The FF didn't want a big Fed Govt. They wanted the States to have the power.

They were conservative because thats the way folks were back then. They didn't expect anyone to give them money or take care of them. They took care of themselves.

Hell. They'd turn over in their graves if they could see the Fed Govt of today and the people with their hands out for other peoples money. Doubt they would like what they see at all.

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Aha. So that's why libs don't support individual rights, freedom of choice, or business policies that cause an increase in wealth.

Reading is fundamental

 

[BluesLegend]

You keep spreading this lie Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

Benedict Arnold?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

conservatism is not extreme. the founders were fically conservative, the constitution is a conservative document. freedom is a conservative belief. the problem is that it is very hard to remove people from the government teat once they are attached.

The founders had no money. We were deeply in debt

They had no choice but to be fiscallyconservative

The FF didn't want a big Fed Govt. They wanted the States to have the power.

They were conservative because thats the way folks were back then. They didn't expect anyone to give them money or take care of them. They took care of themselves.

Hell. They'd turn over in their graves if they could see the Fed Govt of today and the people with their hands out for other peoples money. Doubt they would like what they see at all.

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Name one modern day liberal agenda they would have supported?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You keep spreading this lie Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

Benedict Arnold?

Was he a founding father? Don't recall seeing his signature only any documents that were the foundations of our Constitution

 

[The Rabbi]

The FF didn't want a big Fed Govt. They wanted the States to have the power.

They were conservative because thats the way folks were back then. They didn't expect anyone to give them money or take care of them. They took care of themselves.

Hell. They'd turn over in their graves if they could see the Fed Govt of today and the people with their hands out for other peoples money. Doubt they would like what they see at all.

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Aha. So that's why libs don't support individual rights, freedom of choice, or business policies that cause an increase in wealth.

Reading is fundamental

Ironic post is ironic

 

[rightwinger]

The founders had no money. We were deeply in debt

They had no choice but to be fiscallyconservative

The FF didn't want a big Fed Govt. They wanted the States to have the power.

They were conservative because thats the way folks were back then. They didn't expect anyone to give them money or take care of them. They took care of themselves.

Hell. They'd turn over in their graves if they could see the Fed Govt of today and the people with their hands out for other peoples money. Doubt they would like what they see at all.

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Name one modern day liberal agenda they would have supported?

Obamacare

 

[rightwinger]

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Aha. So that's why libs don't support individual rights, freedom of choice, or business policies that cause an increase in wealth.

Reading is fundamental

Ironic post is ironic

Clueless is still clueless

 

[The Rabbi]

The FF didn't want a big Fed Govt. They wanted the States to have the power.

They were conservative because thats the way folks were back then. They didn't expect anyone to give them money or take care of them. They took care of themselves.

Hell. They'd turn over in their graves if they could see the Fed Govt of today and the people with their hands out for other peoples money. Doubt they would like what they see at all.

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Name one modern day liberal agenda they would have supported?

Obamacare

ROFLMFAO!

Obamacare is exactly the kind of legislation they didnt want.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The founders would not have supported the creation of the 16 amendment the 17th amendment
the creation of the federal reserve
They would not support the department of education
They would not have supported obamacare
They would not have supported a standing army
They would not have supported the IRS
They would not have supported the NSA
Assassinating American citizens
Just to name a few

 

[The Rabbi]

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Aha. So that's why libs don't support individual rights, freedom of choice, or business policies that cause an increase in wealth.

Reading is fundamental

Ironic post is ironic

Clueless is still clueless

You just proved that with the previous post.

 

[bendog]

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Name one modern day liberal agenda they would have supported?

Obamacare

ROFLMFAO!

Obamacare is exactly the kind of legislation they didnt want.

Exactly, and a supermajority voted for govt to affect the market for uninsured Americans. So teaparty on to irrelevance, or get the fck in the game and pass progressive legislation that doesn't make the fed govt the "decider."

 

[The Rabbi]

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Name one modern day liberal agenda they would have supported?

Obamacare

ROFLMFAO!

Obamacare is exactly the kind of legislation they didnt want.

Exactly, and a supermajority voted for govt to affect the market for uninsured Americans. So teaparty on to irrelevance, or get the fck in the game and pass progressive legislation that doesn't make the fed govt the "decider."

Huh?
It wasnt a supermajority. The Democrats used every dirty trick to impose this from above. The legislation gets worse and worse the more of it gets implemented. It becomes more and more unpopular as time goes on.
The Dems will be irrelevant by 2016.

 

[rightwinger]

The Founding Fathers were the biggest liberals of their day. All men are created equal and all that. The conservatives supported the crown
They were unable to have a strong federal government. Communications and transportation took weeks. Delegating down to the states was the only option at the time. It wasn't so much they dod not want.....but couldn't do

Our founding Fathers would be very proud of our society. It offers more freedom than their society did

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Name one modern day liberal agenda they would have supported?

Obamacare

ROFLMFAO!

Obamacare is exactly the kind of legislation they didnt want.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

American ideals

 

[rightwinger]

The founders would not have supported the creation of the 16 amendment the 17th amendment
the creation of the federal reserve
They would not support the department of education
They would not have supported obamacare
They would not have supported a standing army
They would not have supported the IRS
They would not have supported the NSA
Assassinating American citizens
Just to name a few

Why not?

 

[The Rabbi]

You keep spreading this lie
Name one of the founders that would support the liberal agenda of today?

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Name one modern day liberal agenda they would have supported?

Obamacare

ROFLMFAO!

Obamacare is exactly the kind of legislation they didnt want.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

American ideals

Death Panels
No choice of doctors, hospitals, or plans
Higher taxes and higher insurance rates.
If you wanted an example of a program that eliminated life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness you couldn't find a better one than Obamacare.

 

[rightwinger]

They wouldn't support the Internet, airplanes or television either

They can't support that which they don't understand

They did support individual rights and self determination of the electorate. That is what we have today

Name one modern day liberal agenda they would have supported?

Obamacare

ROFLMFAO!

Obamacare is exactly the kind of legislation they didnt want.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

American ideals

Death Panels
No choice of doctors, hospitals, or plans
Higher taxes and higher insurance rates.
If you wanted an example of a program that eliminated life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness you couldn't find a better one than Obamacare.

You think Colonial America had healthcare choices?

Our founders could not have envisioned a healthcare network that could save your life. If they did, they would want all citizens to have access to it

 

[The Rabbi]

Name one modern day liberal agenda they would have supported?

Obamacare

ROFLMFAO!

Obamacare is exactly the kind of legislation they didnt want.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

American ideals

Death Panels
No choice of doctors, hospitals, or plans
Higher taxes and higher insurance rates.
If you wanted an example of a program that eliminated life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness you couldn't find a better one than Obamacare.

You think Colonial America had healthcare choices?

Our founders could not have envisioned a healthcare network that could save your life. If they did, they would want all citizens to have access to it

You think there were no doctors in Colonial America?

Our Founders would piss on your posts and have you tarred and feathered.