Tea Party is the biggest threat to the GOP

[Redfish]

Gee, sticking up for the right of babies to live. Yeah, real fascism there.
Why don't you go fuck yourself, junior?

A Tea Party that claims to be for fiscal responsibility and yet, spends a lot of time hating on gays and minorities.

BTW, I am pro-life. I don't think abortion is right. But the Tea Party injects itself in things that have nothing to do with fiscal politics at all, so the Tea Party is brazenly lying about it's raison d'etre.

As for your other sentence, I prefer women. Your sexual proclivities, no matter how weird (color me surprised) are not really very interesting to the rest of the world.

Please provide the quote, platform or other means to which you have formed this position concerning the TP. I don't see anything of what you are talking about concerning gays and minorities. I don't blame you for thinking they do because the is the mantra that the left has adopted. But let me remind you of something, the left LIES.

It's called the news, it's called google, it's called youtube.

It's really simple.

Translation: I dont have a single source but that's what everyone else is saying so it must be true.

Yeah, it is that simple.

No, it means that you Right Wing fucks are not worth my time of day to pull up literally HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of examples. I am not your secretary, you disgusting fuckface.

typical libtardian, when defeated by facts, hurl insults.

 

[Redfish]

[A Tea Party that claims to be for fiscal responsibility and yet, spends a lot of time hating on gays and minorities.

The Tea Party had my attention for two or three weeks, literally, when they first started up. I figured they'd be a good influence in terms of challenging our "leaders" to become and remain fiscally responsible, and that's a good thing.

Then the shit hit the fan. The Palin / Bachmann / Beck / Levin types saw opportunity and jumped. That's when the conservatives and the libertarians began melding into one and the TP started talking more about the social issues. Plus, the above opportunists turned the movement into an absolutist nightmare, because they wanted to get their hands on that "base".

Then we started hearing about how half the government should be shut down, and how Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid had to go.

Crazyville.

No thanks.

.

Understand the Tea Party is a lot of different thngs to different people. To some people, it's all about finance. To others, it's social. There are no elected positions and no membership cards. So I can agree with some TP positions and disagree with others and consider myself sympathetic to most of their aims.

I understand that. The problem is that politics is now essentially 100% image driven, and many of the things that Tea Partiers say leave themselves wide open to attacks from the Left. I'd think that, outside of the movement, the "Tea Party" brand is pretty damaged as a result. And you know what happens once a brand is damaged.

My "theory" is that many people who think of themselves as Tea Partiers are relatively new to the political process, and they're just not very good at it yet. They became pissed off and fed up - good for them - and jumped into the political fray without yet knowing how the image game is played.

My guess, anyway.

.

your guess is wrong, very wrong.

Could be. I'm wrong all the freakin' time, just ask my wife.

From what I can tell, the Tea Party thinks that there are enough votes in the GOP to not need independents and moderates.

Is that correct?

.

not even close. independents and moderates decide elections. Thats why the GOP is likely to take the senate next week.

The tea party is not a party, it is a movement toward sane fiscal policy, sane fiscal policy, limited government, individual freedom, and a business-friendly tax policy.

anyone who considers those ideas as radical, is a radical.

 

[rightwinger]

It isn't the Democrats, it's the Tea Party. GOP's been co-opted by stupid people.

It is not just the Tea Party, but the rightwing media that keeps Republicans in check and punishes those who dare to compromise with the left

there is no reason to compromise with traitors. the far left agenda is wrong for american and wrong for americans. There should be no compromise with the lunatic socialist policies of obama and clinton. We tried them, they failed. Time to get back to realistic fiscal, foreign, and domestic policies. Time to get back to individual freedom and responsibility.

Once again demonstrating why the Republicans cannot be maintained as a viable political party

When you characterize anyone who does not agree with you as a "traitor" you limit your ability to seek a common ground. There is a common ground on taxes and spending. Politicians have reached it for centuries. It is only the "no compromise" right that has made reaching that common ground impossible

 

[Mac1958]

The Tea Party had my attention for two or three weeks, literally, when they first started up. I figured they'd be a good influence in terms of challenging our "leaders" to become and remain fiscally responsible, and that's a good thing.

Then the shit hit the fan. The Palin / Bachmann / Beck / Levin types saw opportunity and jumped. That's when the conservatives and the libertarians began melding into one and the TP started talking more about the social issues. Plus, the above opportunists turned the movement into an absolutist nightmare, because they wanted to get their hands on that "base".

Then we started hearing about how half the government should be shut down, and how Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid had to go.

Crazyville.

No thanks.

.

Understand the Tea Party is a lot of different thngs to different people. To some people, it's all about finance. To others, it's social. There are no elected positions and no membership cards. So I can agree with some TP positions and disagree with others and consider myself sympathetic to most of their aims.

I understand that. The problem is that politics is now essentially 100% image driven, and many of the things that Tea Partiers say leave themselves wide open to attacks from the Left. I'd think that, outside of the movement, the "Tea Party" brand is pretty damaged as a result. And you know what happens once a brand is damaged.

My "theory" is that many people who think of themselves as Tea Partiers are relatively new to the political process, and they're just not very good at it yet. They became pissed off and fed up - good for them - and jumped into the political fray without yet knowing how the image game is played.

My guess, anyway.

.

your guess is wrong, very wrong.

Could be. I'm wrong all the freakin' time, just ask my wife.

From what I can tell, the Tea Party thinks that there are enough votes in the GOP to not need independents and moderates.

Is that correct?

.

not even close. independents and moderates decide elections. Thats why the GOP is likely to take the senate next week.

The tea party is not a party, it is a movement toward sane fiscal policy, sane fiscal policy, limited government, individual freedom, and a business-friendly tax policy.

anyone who considers those ideas as radical, is a radical.

Do you mind, then, when someone who supports the Tea Party talks about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid as negatives, when they propose shutting down several government agencies? Do you think that appeals to moderates and independents?

.

 

[Statistikhengst]

[A Tea Party that claims to be for fiscal responsibility and yet, spends a lot of time hating on gays and minorities.

The Tea Party had my attention for two or three weeks, literally, when they first started up. I figured they'd be a good influence in terms of challenging our "leaders" to become and remain fiscally responsible, and that's a good thing.

Then the shit hit the fan. The Palin / Bachmann / Beck / Levin types saw opportunity and jumped. That's when the conservatives and the libertarians began melding into one and the TP started talking more about the social issues. Plus, the above opportunists turned the movement into an absolutist nightmare, because they wanted to get their hands on that "base".

Then we started hearing about how half the government should be shut down, and how Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid had to go.

Crazyville.

No thanks.

.

Understand the Tea Party is a lot of different thngs to different people. To some people, it's all about finance. To others, it's social. There are no elected positions and no membership cards. So I can agree with some TP positions and disagree with others and consider myself sympathetic to most of their aims.

I understand that. The problem is that politics is now essentially 100% image driven, and many of the things that Tea Partiers say leave themselves wide open to attacks from the Left. I'd think that, outside of the movement, the "Tea Party" brand is pretty damaged as a result. And you know what happens once a brand is damaged.

My "theory" is that many people who think of themselves as Tea Partiers are relatively new to the political process, and they're just not very good at it yet. They became pissed off and fed up - good for them - and jumped into the political fray without yet knowing how the image game is played.

My guess, anyway.

.

your guess is wrong, very wrong.

Could be. I'm wrong all the freakin' time, just ask my wife.

From what I can tell, the Tea Party thinks that there are enough votes in the GOP to not need independents and moderates.

Is that correct?

.

Yes, and I thank the Tea Party freaks in this case for their stupidity. Thanks, Teepers!

 

[rightwinger]

Gee, sticking up for the right of babies to live. Yeah, real fascism there.
Why don't you go fuck yourself, junior?

A Tea Party that claims to be for fiscal responsibility and yet, spends a lot of time hating on gays and minorities.

BTW, I am pro-life. I don't think abortion is right. But the Tea Party injects itself in things that have nothing to do with fiscal politics at all, so the Tea Party is brazenly lying about it's raison d'etre.

As for your other sentence, I prefer women. Your sexual proclivities, no matter how weird (color me surprised) are not really very interesting to the rest of the world.

Please provide the quote, platform or other means to which you have formed this position concerning the TP. I don't see anything of what you are talking about concerning gays and minorities. I don't blame you for thinking they do because the is the mantra that the left has adopted. But let me remind you of something, the left LIES.

It's called the news, it's called google, it's called youtube.

It's really simple.

Translation: I dont have a single source but that's what everyone else is saying so it must be true.

Yeah, it is that simple.

the dems and libs are scared shitless of the tea party, so they repeat the lies they have been given by their handlers.

For you dems and libs-------------go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said, talk to the people. LEARN. its not what your leaders have told you.

but you don't really care do you? you would rather parrot the mindless drivel pumped into your heads by idiots like wasserman-shultz and HRC.

Dems and libs like the Tea Party. They make it easy to paint the entire Republican party as out of touch and intractable

It is Republicans who fear the Tea Party. They are the ones facing a primary challenge from their right flank

 

[Statistikhengst]

A Tea Party that claims to be for fiscal responsibility and yet, spends a lot of time hating on gays and minorities.

BTW, I am pro-life. I don't think abortion is right. But the Tea Party injects itself in things that have nothing to do with fiscal politics at all, so the Tea Party is brazenly lying about it's raison d'etre.

As for your other sentence, I prefer women. Your sexual proclivities, no matter how weird (color me surprised) are not really very interesting to the rest of the world.

Please provide the quote, platform or other means to which you have formed this position concerning the TP. I don't see anything of what you are talking about concerning gays and minorities. I don't blame you for thinking they do because the is the mantra that the left has adopted. But let me remind you of something, the left LIES.

It's called the news, it's called google, it's called youtube.

It's really simple.

Translation: I dont have a single source but that's what everyone else is saying so it must be true.

Yeah, it is that simple.

the dems and libs are scared shitless of the tea party, so they repeat the lies they have been given by their handlers.

For you dems and libs-------------go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said, talk to the people. LEARN. its not what your leaders have told you.

but you don't really care do you? you would rather parrot the mindless drivel pumped into your heads by idiots like wasserman-shultz and HRC.

Dems and libs like the Tea Party. They make it easy to paint the entire Republican party as out of touch and intractable

It is Republicans who fear the Tea Party. They are the ones facing a primary challenge from their right flank

Yepp. And although the Tea Party can be found in all 50 states of our great Union, it is also pretty obvious where the ideological base of the Tea Party is: in the South.

 

[Redfish]

Understand the Tea Party is a lot of different thngs to different people. To some people, it's all about finance. To others, it's social. There are no elected positions and no membership cards. So I can agree with some TP positions and disagree with others and consider myself sympathetic to most of their aims.

I understand that. The problem is that politics is now essentially 100% image driven, and many of the things that Tea Partiers say leave themselves wide open to attacks from the Left. I'd think that, outside of the movement, the "Tea Party" brand is pretty damaged as a result. And you know what happens once a brand is damaged.

My "theory" is that many people who think of themselves as Tea Partiers are relatively new to the political process, and they're just not very good at it yet. They became pissed off and fed up - good for them - and jumped into the political fray without yet knowing how the image game is played.

My guess, anyway.

.

your guess is wrong, very wrong.

Could be. I'm wrong all the freakin' time, just ask my wife.

From what I can tell, the Tea Party thinks that there are enough votes in the GOP to not need independents and moderates.

Is that correct?

.

not even close. independents and moderates decide elections. Thats why the GOP is likely to take the senate next week.

The tea party is not a party, it is a movement toward sane fiscal policy, sane fiscal policy, limited government, individual freedom, and a business-friendly tax policy.

anyone who considers those ideas as radical, is a radical.

Do you mind, then, when someone who supports the Tea Party talks about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid as negatives, when they propose shutting down several government agencies? Do you think that appeals to moderates and independents?

.

the tea party has loons like every other group,. The things you mentioned are not tea party policies. Once again you seem to be a victim of media lies and propaganda.

Go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said. Go on the website, look at the policies that are being promoted. its not even close to what the libs are saying. the left is very afraid of a pro-constitution, pro-freedom movement because it will rob the government of some of its control, and rob the dems of much of their financial backing.

 

[Redfish]

A Tea Party that claims to be for fiscal responsibility and yet, spends a lot of time hating on gays and minorities.

BTW, I am pro-life. I don't think abortion is right. But the Tea Party injects itself in things that have nothing to do with fiscal politics at all, so the Tea Party is brazenly lying about it's raison d'etre.

As for your other sentence, I prefer women. Your sexual proclivities, no matter how weird (color me surprised) are not really very interesting to the rest of the world.

Please provide the quote, platform or other means to which you have formed this position concerning the TP. I don't see anything of what you are talking about concerning gays and minorities. I don't blame you for thinking they do because the is the mantra that the left has adopted. But let me remind you of something, the left LIES.

It's called the news, it's called google, it's called youtube.

It's really simple.

Translation: I dont have a single source but that's what everyone else is saying so it must be true.

Yeah, it is that simple.

the dems and libs are scared shitless of the tea party, so they repeat the lies they have been given by their handlers.

For you dems and libs-------------go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said, talk to the people. LEARN. its not what your leaders have told you.

but you don't really care do you? you would rather parrot the mindless drivel pumped into your heads by idiots like wasserman-shultz and HRC.

Dems and libs like the Tea Party. They make it easy to paint the entire Republican party as out of touch and intractable

It is Republicans who fear the Tea Party. They are the ones facing a primary challenge from their right flank

some RINOS fear the teaparty, and thats a good thing. a large majority of americans see what liberalism via obama has done to the country and are fed up with it.

face it RW, obama has destroyed your socialist utopia dreams, its over. Freedom has won.

 

[BluesLegend]

It isn't the Democrats, it's the Tea Party. GOP's been co-opted by stupid people.

A group of average Americans even dumb ones with no political experience could hardly do any worse than the idiot professional politicians in DC. $17 trillion dollars in debt top that, that's how fucking stupid the professional politicians are.

 

[Redfish]

Please provide the quote, platform or other means to which you have formed this position concerning the TP. I don't see anything of what you are talking about concerning gays and minorities. I don't blame you for thinking they do because the is the mantra that the left has adopted. But let me remind you of something, the left LIES.

It's called the news, it's called google, it's called youtube.

It's really simple.

Translation: I dont have a single source but that's what everyone else is saying so it must be true.

Yeah, it is that simple.

the dems and libs are scared shitless of the tea party, so they repeat the lies they have been given by their handlers.

For you dems and libs-------------go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said, talk to the people. LEARN. its not what your leaders have told you.

but you don't really care do you? you would rather parrot the mindless drivel pumped into your heads by idiots like wasserman-shultz and HRC.

Dems and libs like the Tea Party. They make it easy to paint the entire Republican party as out of touch and intractable

It is Republicans who fear the Tea Party. They are the ones facing a primary challenge from their right flank

Yepp. And although the Tea Party can be found in all 50 states of our great Union, it is also pretty obvious where the ideological base of the Tea Party is: in the South.

so in addition to hating anyone who dares disagree with your socialist bullshit, you hate anyone living in a warm, successful state. Were you dropped on your head as an infant?

 

[Statistikhengst]

It's called the news, it's called google, it's called youtube.

It's really simple.

Translation: I dont have a single source but that's what everyone else is saying so it must be true.

Yeah, it is that simple.

the dems and libs are scared shitless of the tea party, so they repeat the lies they have been given by their handlers.

For you dems and libs-------------go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said, talk to the people. LEARN. its not what your leaders have told you.

but you don't really care do you? you would rather parrot the mindless drivel pumped into your heads by idiots like wasserman-shultz and HRC.

Dems and libs like the Tea Party. They make it easy to paint the entire Republican party as out of touch and intractable

It is Republicans who fear the Tea Party. They are the ones facing a primary challenge from their right flank

Yepp. And although the Tea Party can be found in all 50 states of our great Union, it is also pretty obvious where the ideological base of the Tea Party is: in the South.

so in addition to hating anyone who dares disagree with your socialist bullshit, you hate anyone living in a warm, successful state. Were you dropped on your head as an infant?

You poor thing, you. G-d bless your heart. Your extreme emotions will be your undoing.

 

[Freewill]

No matter how much the left wing lies and tries to sterotype the Republican party the right has one thing going for it that they really have to lie about....the state of the country.

Why else does the left attack little old ladies with tea bags in their hats? The left wing has nothing to run on except the promotion of sodomy. Not much of a platform.

And I am getting a little bit suspicious about how ignorant Mac is claiming to be, and he's a financial analyist? Really?

 

[rightwinger]

Please provide the quote, platform or other means to which you have formed this position concerning the TP. I don't see anything of what you are talking about concerning gays and minorities. I don't blame you for thinking they do because the is the mantra that the left has adopted. But let me remind you of something, the left LIES.

It's called the news, it's called google, it's called youtube.

It's really simple.

Translation: I dont have a single source but that's what everyone else is saying so it must be true.

Yeah, it is that simple.

the dems and libs are scared shitless of the tea party, so they repeat the lies they have been given by their handlers.

For you dems and libs-------------go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said, talk to the people. LEARN. its not what your leaders have told you.

but you don't really care do you? you would rather parrot the mindless drivel pumped into your heads by idiots like wasserman-shultz and HRC.

Dems and libs like the Tea Party. They make it easy to paint the entire Republican party as out of touch and intractable

It is Republicans who fear the Tea Party. They are the ones facing a primary challenge from their right flank

Yepp. And although the Tea Party can be found in all 50 states of our great Union, it is also pretty obvious where the ideological base of the Tea Party is: in the South.

It is the same base that used to belong to The John Birch Society. They hold many of the same views. But by being unwilling to work for common ground, to demand strict compliance, the Tea Party makes it easy for Dems to wrap all Republicans up in Tea Party rhetoric and use them as an example of how out of touch Republicans remain

 

[rightwinger]

I understand that. The problem is that politics is now essentially 100% image driven, and many of the things that Tea Partiers say leave themselves wide open to attacks from the Left. I'd think that, outside of the movement, the "Tea Party" brand is pretty damaged as a result. And you know what happens once a brand is damaged.

My "theory" is that many people who think of themselves as Tea Partiers are relatively new to the political process, and they're just not very good at it yet. They became pissed off and fed up - good for them - and jumped into the political fray without yet knowing how the image game is played.

My guess, anyway.

.

your guess is wrong, very wrong.

Could be. I'm wrong all the freakin' time, just ask my wife.

From what I can tell, the Tea Party thinks that there are enough votes in the GOP to not need independents and moderates.

Is that correct?

.

not even close. independents and moderates decide elections. Thats why the GOP is likely to take the senate next week.

The tea party is not a party, it is a movement toward sane fiscal policy, sane fiscal policy, limited government, individual freedom, and a business-friendly tax policy.

anyone who considers those ideas as radical, is a radical.

Do you mind, then, when someone who supports the Tea Party talks about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid as negatives, when they propose shutting down several government agencies? Do you think that appeals to moderates and independents?

.

the tea party has loons like every other group,. The things you mentioned are not tea party policies. Once again you seem to be a victim of media lies and propaganda.

Go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said. Go on the website, look at the policies that are being promoted. its not even close to what the libs are saying. the left is very afraid of a pro-constitution, pro-freedom movement because it will rob the government of some of its control, and rob the dems of much of their financial backing.

Shutting down the government was a Tea Party Policy
Defaulting on our debt is a Tea Party Policy
No compromise is a Tea Party Policy

 

[Redfish]

It's called the news, it's called google, it's called youtube.

It's really simple.

Translation: I dont have a single source but that's what everyone else is saying so it must be true.

Yeah, it is that simple.

the dems and libs are scared shitless of the tea party, so they repeat the lies they have been given by their handlers.

For you dems and libs-------------go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said, talk to the people. LEARN. its not what your leaders have told you.

but you don't really care do you? you would rather parrot the mindless drivel pumped into your heads by idiots like wasserman-shultz and HRC.

Dems and libs like the Tea Party. They make it easy to paint the entire Republican party as out of touch and intractable

It is Republicans who fear the Tea Party. They are the ones facing a primary challenge from their right flank

Yepp. And although the Tea Party can be found in all 50 states of our great Union, it is also pretty obvious where the ideological base of the Tea Party is: in the South.

It is the same base that used to belong to The John Birch Society. They hold many of the same views. But by being unwilling to work for common ground, to demand strict compliance, the Tea Party makes it easy for Dems to wrap all Republicans up in Tea Party rhetoric and use them as an example of how out of touch Republicans remain

expecting the government to adhere to the constitution is not a radical concept. Ignoring the constitutiion as obama has done IS a radical concept.

but we get it, since your socialist kenyan messiah has failed miserably, all you can do is denigrate the competition with lies. We get it, and that also will fail.

 

[CowboyTed]

The Tea Party had my attention for two or three weeks, literally, when they first started up. I figured they'd be a good influence in terms of challenging our "leaders" to become and remain fiscally responsible, and that's a good thing.

Then the shit hit the fan. The Palin / Bachmann / Beck / Levin types saw opportunity and jumped. That's when the conservatives and the libertarians began melding into one and the TP started talking more about the social issues. Plus, the above opportunists turned the movement into an absolutist nightmare, because they wanted to get their hands on that "base".

Then we started hearing about how half the government should be shut down, and how Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid had to go.

Crazyville.

No thanks.

.

Understand the Tea Party is a lot of different thngs to different people. To some people, it's all about finance. To others, it's social. There are no elected positions and no membership cards. So I can agree with some TP positions and disagree with others and consider myself sympathetic to most of their aims.

I understand that. The problem is that politics is now essentially 100% image driven, and many of the things that Tea Partiers say leave themselves wide open to attacks from the Left. I'd think that, outside of the movement, the "Tea Party" brand is pretty damaged as a result. And you know what happens once a brand is damaged.

My "theory" is that many people who think of themselves as Tea Partiers are relatively new to the political process, and they're just not very good at it yet. They became pissed off and fed up - good for them - and jumped into the political fray without yet knowing how the image game is played.

My guess, anyway.

.

your guess is wrong, very wrong.

Could be. I'm wrong all the freakin' time, just ask my wife.

From what I can tell, the Tea Party thinks that there are enough votes in the GOP to not need independents and moderates.

Is that correct?

.

not even close. independents and moderates decide elections. Thats why the GOP is likely to take the senate next week.

The tea party is not a party, it is a movement toward sane fiscal policy, sane fiscal policy, limited government, individual freedom, and a business-friendly tax policy.

anyone who considers those ideas as radical, is a radical.

Actually that was the start of policy... but the main players in the tea party have a very social conservative positions as well..

But why argue, we have just conducted a 4 year study in the great state of Kansas...
The Great Kansas Tea Party Disaster Rolling Stone

So to round up simply, a disaster... Much like communism the tea party agenda looks great on paper but disaster in real life.

Kansas is going to vote for a Democratic Governor... Normally Democrats are used as target practice in Kansas.

 

[Redfish]

your guess is wrong, very wrong.

Could be. I'm wrong all the freakin' time, just ask my wife.

From what I can tell, the Tea Party thinks that there are enough votes in the GOP to not need independents and moderates.

Is that correct?

.

not even close. independents and moderates decide elections. Thats why the GOP is likely to take the senate next week.

The tea party is not a party, it is a movement toward sane fiscal policy, sane fiscal policy, limited government, individual freedom, and a business-friendly tax policy.

anyone who considers those ideas as radical, is a radical.

Do you mind, then, when someone who supports the Tea Party talks about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid as negatives, when they propose shutting down several government agencies? Do you think that appeals to moderates and independents?

.

the tea party has loons like every other group,. The things you mentioned are not tea party policies. Once again you seem to be a victim of media lies and propaganda.

Go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said. Go on the website, look at the policies that are being promoted. its not even close to what the libs are saying. the left is very afraid of a pro-constitution, pro-freedom movement because it will rob the government of some of its control, and rob the dems of much of their financial backing.

Shutting down the government was a Tea Party Policy
Defaulting on our debt is a Tea Party Policy
No compromise is a Tea Party Policy

wrong on all 3

obama shut down the govt, no party or congress has the power to do that
no one has said we should default, just balance the budget and begin to pay off the debt--how radical!
no compromise with failed socialism is the right thing to do. on that topic, where has obama offered to compromise?

 

[Redfish]

Understand the Tea Party is a lot of different thngs to different people. To some people, it's all about finance. To others, it's social. There are no elected positions and no membership cards. So I can agree with some TP positions and disagree with others and consider myself sympathetic to most of their aims.

I understand that. The problem is that politics is now essentially 100% image driven, and many of the things that Tea Partiers say leave themselves wide open to attacks from the Left. I'd think that, outside of the movement, the "Tea Party" brand is pretty damaged as a result. And you know what happens once a brand is damaged.

My "theory" is that many people who think of themselves as Tea Partiers are relatively new to the political process, and they're just not very good at it yet. They became pissed off and fed up - good for them - and jumped into the political fray without yet knowing how the image game is played.

My guess, anyway.

.

your guess is wrong, very wrong.

Could be. I'm wrong all the freakin' time, just ask my wife.

From what I can tell, the Tea Party thinks that there are enough votes in the GOP to not need independents and moderates.

Is that correct?

.

not even close. independents and moderates decide elections. Thats why the GOP is likely to take the senate next week.

The tea party is not a party, it is a movement toward sane fiscal policy, sane fiscal policy, limited government, individual freedom, and a business-friendly tax policy.

anyone who considers those ideas as radical, is a radical.

Actually that was the start of policy... but the main players in the tea party have a very social conservative positions as well..

But why argue, we have just conducted a 4 year study in the great state of Kansas...
The Great Kansas Tea Party Disaster Rolling Stone

So to round up simply, a disaster... Much like communism the tea party agenda looks great on paper but disaster in real life.

Kansas is going to vote for a Democratic Governor... Normally Democrats are used as target practice in Kansas.

the people deserve what they vote for. thats the way it works. obama won twice, the country deserves the mess he created. if your state does the same, it deserves the results.

 

[rightwinger]

Translation: I dont have a single source but that's what everyone else is saying so it must be true.

Yeah, it is that simple.

the dems and libs are scared shitless of the tea party, so they repeat the lies they have been given by their handlers.

For you dems and libs-------------go to a tea party rally, listen to what is being said, talk to the people. LEARN. its not what your leaders have told you.

but you don't really care do you? you would rather parrot the mindless drivel pumped into your heads by idiots like wasserman-shultz and HRC.

Dems and libs like the Tea Party. They make it easy to paint the entire Republican party as out of touch and intractable

It is Republicans who fear the Tea Party. They are the ones facing a primary challenge from their right flank

Yepp. And although the Tea Party can be found in all 50 states of our great Union, it is also pretty obvious where the ideological base of the Tea Party is: in the South.

It is the same base that used to belong to The John Birch Society. They hold many of the same views. But by being unwilling to work for common ground, to demand strict compliance, the Tea Party makes it easy for Dems to wrap all Republicans up in Tea Party rhetoric and use them as an example of how out of touch Republicans remain

expecting the government to adhere to the constitution is not a radical concept. Ignoring the constitutiion as obama has done IS a radical concept.

but we get it, since your socialist kenyan messiah has failed miserably, all you can do is denigrate the competition with lies. We get it, and that also will fail.

Our government adheres to the Constitution. If the Tea Party has a different interpretation of the Constitution, they are welcome to prove it in a court of law

It has been done thousands of times