Ernie S.
Diamond Member
MIGHT be?
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They climbed right up robmoneys ass the second they were told to
Money has nothing to do with anything. You don't mind wealthy people like Kennedy or Kerry or Pelosi, etc.
Dear idiot.
its not money that is evil.
its that some people care more about money than other human beings.
those rich fucks belong to your party
How else to explain the many middle-class and lower people who are wholeheartedly supporting lower taxes for the wealthy?
Are you saying Tea Party members are "middle-class and lower" and that they support "lower taxes for the wealthy"? What evidence to you have of this? TP members tend to be middle and upper middle class and TEA stands for Tax Enough Already, which is not necessarily a call for lower taxes, just not more taxes.
More importantly, how does supporting the idea of lowering personal income taxes mean a person "conflates crony capitalism with free enterprise, and free enterprise with personal liberty"? Every TP member I've spoken with supports a flatter, fairer tax scheme. How is that the same thing is cronyism and confusing the meaning of liberty?
They do? I mean - teabaggers keep SAYING they do but I've yet to see any actual graphs to prove that allegation.
How else to explain the many middle-class and lower people who are wholeheartedly supporting lower taxes for the wealthy?
Are you saying Tea Party members are "middle-class and lower" and that they support "lower taxes for the wealthy"? What evidence to you have of this? TP members tend to be middle and upper middle class and TEA stands for Tax Enough Already, which is not necessarily a call for lower taxes, just not more taxes.
More importantly, how does supporting the idea of lowering personal income taxes mean a person "conflates crony capitalism with free enterprise, and free enterprise with personal liberty"? Every TP member I've spoken with supports a flatter, fairer tax scheme. How is that the same thing is cronyism and confusing the meaning of liberty?
They do? I mean - teabaggers keep SAYING they do but I've yet to see any actual graphs to prove that allegation.
Rick Santelli’s Planted Rant ? | The Big Picture
I read this article a very long time ago. For whatever reason, Playboy pulled it. Ya gotta love the internet.
Excerpt:
What is Playboy’s evidence of this?“How did a minor-league TV figure, whose contract with CNBC is due this summer, get so quickly launched into a nationwide rightwing blog sensation? Why were there so many sites and organizations online and live within minutes or hours after his rant, leading to a nationwide protest just a week after his rant?
What hasn’t been reported until now is evidence linking Santelli’s “tea party” rant with some very familiar names in the Republican rightwing machine, from PR operatives who specialize in imitation-grassroots PR campaigns (called “astroturfing” to bigwig politicians and notorious billionaire funders. As veteran Russia reporters, both of us spent years watching the Kremlin use fake grassroots movements to influence and control the political landscape. To us, the uncanny speed and direction the movement took and the players involved in promoting it had a strangely forced quality to it. If it seemed scripted, that’s because it was.
What we discovered is that Santelli’s “rant” was not at all spontaneous as his alleged fans claim, but rather it was a carefully-planned trigger for the anti-Obama campaign. In PR terms, his February 19th call for a “Chicago Tea Party” was the launch event of a carefully organized and sophisticated PR campaign, one in which Santelli served as a frontman, using the CNBC airwaves for publicity, for the some of the craziest and sleaziest rightwing oligarch clans this country has ever produced. Namely, the Koch family, the multibilllionaire owners of the largest private corporation in America, and funders of scores of rightwing thinktanks and advocacy groups, from the Cato Institute and Reason Magazine to FreedomWorks. The scion of the Koch family, Fred Koch, was a co-founder of the notorious extremist-rightwing John Birch Society.”
“Within hours of Santelli’s rant, a website called ChicagoTeaParty.com sprang to life. Essentially inactive until that day, it now featured a YouTube video of Santelli’s “tea party” rant and billed itself as the official home of the Chicago Tea Party. The domain was registered in August, 2008 by Zack Christenson, a dweeby Twitter Republican and producer for a popular Chicago rightwing radio host Milt Rosenberg—a familiar name to Obama campaign people. Last August, Rosenberg, who looks like Martin Short’s Irving Cohen character, caused an outcry when he interviewed Stanley Kurtz, the conservative writer who first “exposed” a personal link between Obama and former Weather Undergound leader Bill Ayers. As a result of Rosenberg’s radio interview, the Ayers story was given a major push through the Republican media echo chamber, culminating in Sarah Palin’s accusation that Obama was “palling around with terrorists.” That Rosenberg’s producer owns the “chicagoteaparty.com” site is already weird—but what’s even stranger is that he first bought the domain last August, right around the time of Rosenburg’s launch of the “Obama is a terrorist” campaign. It’s as if they held this “Chicago tea party” campaign in reserve, like a sleeper-site. Which is exactly what it was.
Are you saying Tea Party members are "middle-class and lower" and that they support "lower taxes for the wealthy"? What evidence to you have of this? TP members tend to be middle and upper middle class and TEA stands for Tax Enough Already, which is not necessarily a call for lower taxes, just not more taxes.
More importantly, how does supporting the idea of lowering personal income taxes mean a person "conflates crony capitalism with free enterprise, and free enterprise with personal liberty"? Every TP member I've spoken with supports a flatter, fairer tax scheme. How is that the same thing is cronyism and confusing the meaning of liberty?
They do? I mean - teabaggers keep SAYING they do but I've yet to see any actual graphs to prove that allegation.
The TP has been kicking democrat butts since Nov 2010.
MIGHT be?
Let's face it. The left would be happy if the Tea Party people would just go away. The left has run out of ideas and the momentum is swinging away. All the left has is mud slinging.
Let's face it. The left would be happy if the Tea Party people would just go away. The left has run out of ideas and the momentum is swinging away. All the left has is mud slinging.
Let's face it. The left would be happy if the Tea Party people would just go away. The left has run out of ideas and the momentum is swinging away. All the left has is mud slinging.
I suspect you're correct here as well. I just don't understand how someone can make a bold, blanket statement that covers literally hundreds of thousands of people with the same broad brush but can't muster a single fact, logic or reason in support of that statement!
It would be like me saying: "Progressive central planning Democrats kill and eat babies and are mean to old people". Why? Because I say so! That's insane...
They do? I mean - teabaggers keep SAYING they do but I've yet to see any actual graphs to prove that allegation.
The TP has been kicking democrat butts since Nov 2010.
This is certainly true, but the OP claims Tea Partiers "conflate crony capitalism with free enterprise, and free enterprise with personal liberty", yet offers nothing in support of this assessment. Her response on tax rates and the socioeconomic status of TP members was not only incorrect, it had NOTHING to do with the original claim. Is she always this poorly prepared to support her own argument?
I checked the mailbox when I got back from Taos and the Koch Brother check wasn't there. It's over 2 years now
When exactly do we get paid off?
Anyone?
Bueller?
The TP has been kicking democrat butts since Nov 2010.
This is certainly true, but the OP claims Tea Partiers "conflate crony capitalism with free enterprise, and free enterprise with personal liberty", yet offers nothing in support of this assessment. Her response on tax rates and the socioeconomic status of TP members was not only incorrect, it had NOTHING to do with the original claim. Is she always this poorly prepared to support her own argument?
The short answer to that is "Who died and made you my 10th grade civics teacher?"
"Personal liberty" is the Pavlov dog whistle that the Koch's are blowing to get the support they need from the rest of the party. Same for 'free enterprise.' Too bad they don't actually mean it. And crony capitalism is the truth of the whole thing, but we're not supposed to notice that.
The TP has been kicking democrat butts since Nov 2010.
This is certainly true, but the OP claims Tea Partiers "conflate crony capitalism with free enterprise, and free enterprise with personal liberty", yet offers nothing in support of this assessment. Her response on tax rates and the socioeconomic status of TP members was not only incorrect, it had NOTHING to do with the original claim. Is she always this poorly prepared to support her own argument?
The short answer to that is "Who died and made you my 10th grade civics teacher?"
"Personal liberty" is the Pavlov dog whistle that the Koch's are blowing to get the support they need from the rest of the party. Same for 'free enterprise.' Too bad they don't actually mean it. And crony capitalism is the truth of the whole thing, but we're not supposed to notice that.
This is certainly true, but the OP claims Tea Partiers "conflate crony capitalism with free enterprise, and free enterprise with personal liberty", yet offers nothing in support of this assessment. Her response on tax rates and the socioeconomic status of TP members was not only incorrect, it had NOTHING to do with the original claim. Is she always this poorly prepared to support her own argument?
The short answer to that is "Who died and made you my 10th grade civics teacher?"
"Personal liberty" is the Pavlov dog whistle that the Koch's are blowing to get the support they need from the rest of the party. Same for 'free enterprise.' Too bad they don't actually mean it. And crony capitalism is the truth of the whole thing, but we're not supposed to notice that.
Oh yes, we're all sitting here waiting for the Koch's to tell us what move to make next. We're all mindless robots who can't think for ourselves and see what's happening. Oh yes.
Your team failed and your leader is failing. Blaming everyone on the winning team because your team failed is kinda childish.