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Eight House Republican freshmen and three inaugural members of the Tea Party Caucus voted against a proposed extension of three Patriot Act provisions Tuesday night, blocking the measure from passage under fast-track rules. The House clearly backed the measure, voting 277 to 148 to extend the provisions, and most Republicans stuck by their leadership and supported the extension. But enough defected, joined by most Democrats, to keep the measure seven votes shy of the two-thirds majority required for passage under the fast-track procedure.
The House is likely to bring the extensions back up before the end of the month under regular procedures, when a simple majority would suffice to send it to the Senate.
Attention immediately swung to whether House members sympathetic to the tea party had decided the matter, especially after Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio) said Monday that the vote would be "the tea party's first test."
The Republicans who voted no Tuesday night included Roscoe G. Bartlett (Md.), Paul Broun (Ga.) and Walter B. Jones (N.C.), all of whom were original members of the House Tea Party Caucus when it was founded last summer.
I am impressed.
Eight House Republican freshmen and three inaugural members of the Tea Party Caucus voted against a proposed extension of three Patriot Act provisions Tuesday night, blocking the measure from passage under fast-track rules. The House clearly backed the measure, voting 277 to 148 to extend the provisions, and most Republicans stuck by their leadership and supported the extension. But enough defected, joined by most Democrats, to keep the measure seven votes shy of the two-thirds majority required for passage under the fast-track procedure.
The House is likely to bring the extensions back up before the end of the month under regular procedures, when a simple majority would suffice to send it to the Senate.
Attention immediately swung to whether House members sympathetic to the tea party had decided the matter, especially after Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio) said Monday that the vote would be "the tea party's first test."
The Republicans who voted no Tuesday night included Roscoe G. Bartlett (Md.), Paul Broun (Ga.) and Walter B. Jones (N.C.), all of whom were original members of the House Tea Party Caucus when it was founded last summer.
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Not an end to it, but a sign that things are changing.
I find this worrisome, Quantum Windbag. I am not sure why the provisions they voted down were not approved. If it is some free-floating "anti-Big Government" attitude, I will feel less safe if they proceed to strip away all the extraordinary powers of the Patriot Act.
But then you knew I wouldn't approve, didn't you?
See the Op, RGS. T'aint just Democrats.
See the Op, RGS. T'aint just Democrats.
148 voted no dear and only 24 were Republicans and of those only 8 were Teaparty. The remain 124 were Democrats that 2 years ago overwhelmingly voted FOR those exact same provisions.
See the Op, RGS. T'aint just Democrats.
148 voted no dear and only 24 were Republicans and of those only 8 were Teaparty. The remain 124 were Democrats that 2 years ago overwhelmingly voted FOR those exact same provisions.
I disapprove of partisan bullshit, RGS. If it was a sound idea 2 years ago, it should still be unless experience has changed their minds.
Shame on them.
I am impressed.
Eight House Republican freshmen and three inaugural members of the Tea Party Caucus voted against a proposed extension of three Patriot Act provisions Tuesday night, blocking the measure from passage under fast-track rules. The House clearly backed the measure, voting 277 to 148 to extend the provisions, and most Republicans stuck by their leadership and supported the extension. But enough defected, joined by most Democrats, to keep the measure seven votes shy of the two-thirds majority required for passage under the fast-track procedure.
The House is likely to bring the extensions back up before the end of the month under regular procedures, when a simple majority would suffice to send it to the Senate.
Attention immediately swung to whether House members sympathetic to the tea party had decided the matter, especially after Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio) said Monday that the vote would be "the tea party's first test."
The Republicans who voted no Tuesday night included Roscoe G. Bartlett (Md.), Paul Broun (Ga.) and Walter B. Jones (N.C.), all of whom were original members of the House Tea Party Caucus when it was founded last summer.
44 - GOP freshmen help derail Patriot Act extension
Not an end to it, but a sign that things are changing.
No it isn't only 148 voted no. This will easily pass when they bring it up again.
By the way Walter B. Jones is my rep, he is NOT a real tea party member. He is a Democrat that could not run as a Democrat because of the good old boy system. He did not have the time put in for the Party to support him. SO he changed party's and ran as a Republican back in the 90's/ Won the seat and has steadily been going back to the democrats on most crucial votes. The Republican party of NC does not like him much but can not find anyone to win yet against him.
This last election the primary had a challenger and he got 40 percent of the vote. I specifically voted against Walter B. Jones in the regular election and against him in the primaries. His father held the seat for a long time as a Democrat as well.
I specifically tell the Republican party NOT to send any of my contributions to him.
I find this worrisome, Quantum Windbag. I am not sure why the provisions they voted down were not approved. If it is some free-floating "anti-Big Government" attitude, I will feel less safe if they proceed to strip away all the extraordinary powers of the Patriot Act.
But then you knew I wouldn't approve, didn't you?
Don't get your hopes up, it will be back on the books by next Friday.
They'll strip away the amendments, and it will pass easily.
in my lifetime.
I'm not holding my breath about it staying out of government but if the most unconstitutional piece of legislation in US history stays off the books I'll sign up to become a democrat this year.
in my lifetime.
I'm not holding my breath about it staying out of government but if the most unconstitutional piece of legislation in US history stays off the books I'll sign up to become a democrat this year.
I don't find it to be THE MOST unconstitutional piece of legislation, but it is a GREAT thing that this was blocked, even temporarily.
Battle lines were drawn today.
in my lifetime.
I'm not holding my breath about it staying out of government but if the most unconstitutional piece of legislation in US history stays off the books I'll sign up to become a democrat this year.
in my lifetime.
I'm not holding my breath about it staying out of government but if the most unconstitutional piece of legislation in US history stays off the books I'll sign up to become a democrat this year.
Its about time too. I've been wanting this thing to go away since the day after it was introduced.
"Patriot" act meh.
If it wasn't for those tea party republicans this thing would have passed again.
in my lifetime.
I'm not holding my breath about it staying out of government but if the most unconstitutional piece of legislation in US history stays off the books I'll sign up to become a democrat this year.
Its about time too. I've been wanting this thing to go away since the day after it was introduced.
"Patriot" act meh.
If it wasn't for those tea party republicans this thing would have passed again.
It takes a lot of faith in government bureacrats to think they won't abuse the powers given to them in the Patriot Act.
