Taxing just the rich is a futile effort.

Yep, the mendacious and willfully ignorant will never get it. Simply keep repeating the talking point like the parrots they are ("hate others for what they have") is one of many bullshit phrases invented by the propaganda machine.

Where as tax the rich and pay their for share is what if not a B.S. propaganda phrase?

You don't see a distinction? Wow. The former is bullshit, the latter is a call for action.

The wow is you think bullshit talking points is a call to action. Your call to action does nothing to fix or even address the problem in a realistic manner it's like charging into battle with a unloaded weapon it might look and sound good but the results will be a disaster.
 
It's unfortunate the self defined conservatives, aka the echo chamber, are so ignorant. Of course there is a cure for simple ignorance; sadly the echo chamber's ignorance is willful (in some cases based on a lack of intellectual ability) and no amount of information can cure their malady.

and yet you've failed to respond to my post regarding how these taxes provide disincentives to the wealthy, day-to-day. Explanation by the former economics writer for The Atlantic or the anecdotal example.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-the-rich-is-a-futile-effort.html#post6398766
 
These folks, the leftwing "little people" simply parrot what they've been told by their "leaders".

You could seize the wealth of ALL the "roch people" and not make a dent in the debt.

We have all that debt for no other reason than we as a people want to have our cake and eat it too. We want to have wars and cool weapons and not have starving people looting the supermarket and our homes AND low taxes. The government has been solely run for the benefit of rich and the MIC for thirty years who saw no penalty whatsoever for failing to protect a single American job and now they whine that all the jobless poor people they made might have a grudge against them, well they earned it along with all that cash they made from shipping our industrial base to China.
 
It would barely raise enough money to get FEMA out of its deficit. If they want to raise taxes I say let all the cuts expire. Fair is fair

Yeah, but is sure sounds great to the folks that hate others for what they have.

"Tax the rich" works when your ideology breeds poverty and racism.

Yep, the mendacious and willfully ignorant will never get it. Simply keep repeating the talking point like the parrots they are ("hate others for what they have") is one of many bullshit phrases invented by the propaganda machine.
Oh, you mean like "Tax the rich!!"?
 
Taxing the rich will accomplish little to nothing fiscally but it will make the self indulged feel good.

Bullshit, there is no more self-indulged and government pampered person on the face of this earth than a wealthy American.
 
It's unfortunate the self defined conservatives, aka the echo chamber, are so ignorant. Of course there is a cure for simple ignorance; sadly the echo chamber's ignorance is willful (in some cases based on a lack of intellectual ability) and no amount of information can cure their malady.
Soooo...you got busted passing off leftist bumper-sticker slogans as rational, independent thought -- and it's OUR fault.
 
Yep, the mendacious and willfully ignorant will never get it. Simply keep repeating the talking point like the parrots they are ("hate others for what they have") is one of many bullshit phrases invented by the propaganda machine.

Where as tax the rich and pay their for share is what if not a B.S. propaganda phrase?

You don't see a distinction? Wow. The former is bullshit, the latter is a call for action.
A useless and meaningless action.
 
Taxing the rich will accomplish little to nothing fiscally but it will make the self indulged feel good.

Bullshit, there is no more self-indulged and government pampered person on the face of this earth than a wealthy American.

Yeah, like Obama, George Soros, David Axelrod, or Jay-Z and Beyonce.
 
The top 5% already pay 40% of all taxes.

Examiner Editorial: If top 5% paid 40% of taxes, what is their 'fair' share? | WashingtonExaminer.com

Millionaires pay 4 times as much in taxes as the middle class.

The Millionaires Who Pay the Highest Tax Rate - U.S. Business News - CNBC

It is still not enough. It will never be enough even if it was 100%. Greed and envy don't have any boundaries. Even if the rich were completely impoverished, left with nothing. They will still possess the kind of thinking that makes wealth. The talented will still be talented. The innovators will still be able to innovate and shortly become rich UNLESS there is an end put to talent and innovation.
 
Taxing the rich will accomplish little to nothing fiscally but it will make the self indulged feel good.

Bullshit, there is no more self-indulged and government pampered person on the face of this earth than a wealthy American.

Yeah, like Obama, George Soros, David Axelrod, or Jay-Z and Beyonce.

Nice you name the people who want to change it and not the host of people who just contributed a billion plus to Romney to keep the plutocratic socialism right where it is.
 
We have all that debt for no other reason than we as a people want to have our cake and eat it too.

One must always be creful of these all inclusive statements. They are false on their face,not EVERYONE is as you say.

We want to have wars and cool weapons and not have starving people looting the supermarket and our homes AND low taxes.

No regular american "wants" war, patently silly.
Fact is we can have all of those "cool" weapons and not worry about people "looting" supermarkets.
We CAN have low taxes AND our homes.

The government has been solely run for the benefit of rich and the MIC for thirty years who saw no penalty whatsoever for failing to protect a single American job and now they whine that all the jobless poor people they made might have a grudge against them, well they earned it along with all that cash they made from shipping our industrial base to China.

In this you have a point.
 
Every job shipped to a grateful employee in China is one denied to an ungrateful, whiner and complainer like the average degenerate and drug addicted American.
 
I see no reason to raise taxes on anybody until the gov't first makes a serious effort to use our tax dollars more effectively and efficiently. It is the heighth of stupidity to give more money to these fuckups so they can gain more political support. THEN we should reform the tax code make it fair and balanced so that some do not get special breaks. THEN we need to have a serious conversation over what the gov't should and should not do. ONLY AFTER THAT should we consider raising the rates as necessary.
 
Every job shipped to a grateful employee in China is one denied to an ungrateful, whiner and complainer like the average degenerate and drug addicted American.

Why do conservatives see the wealthy making more,more,more money by any means at their disposal as good but if their employees merely want their incomes to keep pace with inflation they are greedy whiners?
 
Fix the IRS, if you only realized how many people cheat the tax system we have you would quit worrying about the so called rich people at $250K...

I am amazed at the number of tax returns I see with $6k to $12k in refunds that have fraudulent write offs...
 
Bullshit, there is no more self-indulged and government pampered person on the face of this earth than a wealthy American.

Yeah, like Obama, George Soros, David Axelrod, or Jay-Z and Beyonce.

Nice you name the people who want to change it and not the host of people who just contributed a billion plus to Romney to keep the plutocratic socialism right where it is.

Obama, George Soros, David Axelrod, or Jay-Z and Beyonce

Now I am laughing at you, unless of course you desire World Socialism......man up and admit you do.
 
Yeah, like Obama, George Soros, David Axelrod, or Jay-Z and Beyonce.

Nice you name the people who want to change it and not the host of people who just contributed a billion plus to Romney to keep the plutocratic socialism right where it is.

Obama, George Soros, David Axelrod, or Jay-Z and Beyonce

Now I am laughing at you, unless of course you desire World Socialism......man up and admit you do.

Allowing tax rates to finally return to Clinton levels is hardly socialism, hyperbole is funny.
 
I agree, let them all expire and also look at spending cuts too.

A balanced approach.

let them all expire, let everyone pay a tax, no exemptions, no exceptions. no excuses. Everyone must have some skin in the game. let all the takers become makers. Make it happen.
 

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