"Tallying Trump's tab": The liberals suddenly care about excessive spending

[Toddsterpatriot]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

 

[edthecynic]

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

Actually the GOP National Debt was $11.9 trillion at the end of Bush's last fiscal year. That $11.9 trillion has cost us over $2 trillion in interest since then so therefore the total GOP National Debt is $14+ trillion.

Obama wrote the budget for what you're calling "Bush's last fiscal year." So he owns it.

No banana, charlie.

Nope, Obama's budget began Oct 1 2009.

So Bush's budget started October 1, 2001?

Correct.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

I hate to remind Obama voters but they have consistently told us that deficit spending is good for the economy because the more government spends the more consumption occurs. I can't think of a better way to rejuvenate the economy than with massive deportation. Think of all the trucks we will use to vacate people from this country. That will be good for auto unions since it will keep auto companies in business.

Wait a minute...if the first stimulus worked so well then why do we need to rejuvenate the economy? It does not compute....

 

[edthecynic]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

Wrong. You can't blame Obama for the $2 trillion in interest on the $12 trillion GOP National Debt he inherited.

 

[bripat9643]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

Actually the GOP National Debt was $11.9 trillion at the end of Bush's last fiscal year. That $11.9 trillion has cost us over $2 trillion in interest since then so therefore the total GOP National Debt is $14+ trillion.

Obama wrote the budget for what you're calling "Bush's last fiscal year." So he owns it.

No banana, charlie.

Nope, Obama's budget began Oct 1 2009.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, a US stimulus package enacted by the 111th United States Congress in February 2009 and signed into law on February 17, 2009

That's the day Obama became responsible for the budget. That was his budget.

 

[bripat9643]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

Wrong. You can't blame Obama for the $2 trillion in interest on the $12 trillion GOP National Debt he inherited.

Sure you can. You blame Bush for all the interest on the debt spent during his administration, don't you?

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Why not terminate the EPA? I bet that cost at least 138 billion a year to keep open. How about we compare the cost of deportation to the cost of other programs. I. Et they are about the same.

 

[bripat9643]

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

Actually the GOP National Debt was $11.9 trillion at the end of Bush's last fiscal year. That $11.9 trillion has cost us over $2 trillion in interest since then so therefore the total GOP National Debt is $14+ trillion.

Obama wrote the budget for what you're calling "Bush's last fiscal year." So he owns it.

No banana, charlie.

Nope, Obama's budget began Oct 1 2009.

So Bush's budget started October 1, 2001? Nine months after Clinton's recession started?

The date is set by law specifically The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974.

The stimulus was passed in February. That's effectively when Obama took command of the budget. What you're trying to do is blame Bush for spending that occurred as a result of the stimulus. That may fool the knuckleheads, but anyone with a brain understands the facts.

 

[bripat9643]

I care simply because I don't know where the fuck the trillions of bucks are going. As of this moment spending on infrastructure, science and education is at the lowest level since 1990.

This is unacceptable....

Of course, you rightwing assholes don't care. And don't blame me for attacking trump because I think it would be a great thing if we deported most of the illegals, which would drive up wages for the rest of America.

It's going to pay for illegal aliens, dolt.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

OP- Thanks for the usual BS about big spending Dems- ACTUALLY, the debt goes up under Pubs, except when Dems have to blow 5-6 trillion bailing out a Pub world depression and its victims. STILL 4-500billion /year in UE, Welfare etc...Reagan tripled the debt, W doubled it in supposedly good times- actually corrupt bubbles- Great job, shytteheads.

Have to love liberal logic:

The debt tripled under Reagan, it was his fault.
The debt doubled under Bush, that was his fault.
The debt doubled under Obama, that was the Republicans fault.

LOL!!!!!!!

yep, they are well trained. Obama and his party does the same thing. it's pathetic

Yet, you don't even look at the facts and care to realize that taking a axe to everything is a shitty idea. Obama's debt doubled because of 1. bail-outs, 2. wars of nation building and 3. Our healthcare system was sucking us dry...

Obama's debt doubled because of 1. bail-outs,

Which of Obama's bailouts increased the debt?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Griffin is an idiot.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

Wrong. You can't blame Obama for the $2 trillion in interest on the $12 trillion GOP National Debt he inherited.

He could have cut spending. He didn't.
He gets blamed for the increase in the debt, even though he's black.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

Where did it go?? It sure as fuck hasn't gone into infrastructure, science, or education. Yet, those seem to be the three things you want to cut the most.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

Wrong. You can't blame Obama for the $2 trillion in interest on the $12 trillion GOP National Debt he inherited.

He could have cut spending. He didn't.
He gets blamed for the increase in the debt, even though he's black.

He could of cut the bail-outs, wars and want to nationalized healthcare. That would of done it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

Where did it go?? It sure as fuck hasn't gone into infrastructure, science, or education. Yet, those seem to be the three things you want to cut the most.

Yet, those seem to be the three things you want to cut the most.

Where did I say that? Are you drunk again?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

Wrong. You can't blame Obama for the $2 trillion in interest on the $12 trillion GOP National Debt he inherited.

He could have cut spending. He didn't.
He gets blamed for the increase in the debt, even though he's black.

He could of cut the bail-outs, wars and want to nationalized healthcare. That would of done it.

He could of cut the bail-outs

Which ones?

and want to nationalized healthcare

Yeah, that would have added a few trillion more to the deficit.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

Wrong. You can't blame Obama for the $2 trillion in interest on the $12 trillion GOP National Debt he inherited.

What about the next President and the debt interest he is going to be responsible for because of Obama?

If you want to stop paying interest, start paying off your debt. You can't do that with Cash for Clunkers and free college. You have to start paying off the debt. Right now, we don't even have a balanced budget yet.

 

[edthecynic]

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

Actually the GOP National Debt was $11.9 trillion at the end of Bush's last fiscal year. That $11.9 trillion has cost us over $2 trillion in interest since then so therefore the total GOP National Debt is $14+ trillion.

Obama wrote the budget for what you're calling "Bush's last fiscal year." So he owns it.

No banana, charlie.

Nope, Obama's budget began Oct 1 2009.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, a US stimulus package enacted by the 111th United States Congress in February 2009 and signed into law on February 17, 2009

That's the day Obama became responsible for the budget. That was his budget.

But very little of the spending took place in 2009, which is why the Right kept saying throughout 2009 that it should be repealed to pay down the GOP National Debt.

The government wouldn’t be able to spend at least one-fourth of a proposed $825 billion economic stimulus plan until after 2010, according to a preliminary report by the Congressional Business Office that suggests it may take longer than expected to boost the economy. The government would spend about $26 billion of the money in 2009 and $110 billion more next year, the report said. About $103 billion would be spent in 2011, while $53 billion would be spent in 2012 and $63 billion between 2013 and 2019.

 

[edthecynic]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

Wrong. You can't blame Obama for the $2 trillion in interest on the $12 trillion GOP National Debt he inherited.

Sure you can. You blame Bush for all the interest on the debt spent during his administration, don't you?

LIAR!
I said the interest on the $12 trillion GOP National Debt Obama inherited, which is about $2 trillion.

 

[edthecynic]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Obama's deficit spending has added $7.5 Trillion to the debt....so far.

Wrong. You can't blame Obama for the $2 trillion in interest on the $12 trillion GOP National Debt he inherited.

What about the next President and the debt interest he is going to be responsible for because of Obama?

That would be the interest on the debt over and above the $12 trillion GOP National Debt and 8 years of interest on that $12 trillion which will will be about $3 trillion. So if the debt on Sept 30, 2016 is $20 trillion, the interest on the $5 trillion above the $15 trillion belongs to Obama.