Take it down!

[Clementine]

If you think about it, we did have though police a few years ago. Anyone remember AttackWatch? That was Obama's Soviet-style website where sheep were encouraged to snitch on people who were bad mouthing Obamacare. I was told by an idiot poster that he/she reported me for claiming that Obama was lying about some promises made before Obamacare was shoved through. While I didn't get a visit from the PC police, I was probably put on some list. Of course, now we know that the secret enemy list contains names of people who saw through the bullshit and knew he was lying.

And those who openly spoke out against liberal policies found themselves being audited by the IRS and denied tax-exempt status. Many Republican donors have been audited. That is worse than some cops showing up to ASK you to withdraw your comments. Having corrupt government bureaucrats come after you means no fair treatment and no recourse for the victim after they've been screwed.

I'd say we are being told to shut up in a very underhanded way. They can't stop free speech, something Obama lamented about during a speech to

, but they can and do make life hell for those who speak out against them.

Facebook takes down posts that they find offensive. Companies are being pressured to fire people who don't toe the line. How many people have lost their jobs for having the "wrong" opinion? Companies could very well fear reprisals if they don't make an example out of people who speak out against the current regime. Anything anti-liberal, anti-amnesty, anti-Muslim or anti-gay is viewed as hate speech and they do take action.

Some countries are more open about their policies regarding dissention. Our government is doing the same, only being secretive about it.

I blame islam....Without conspiracy your posts would drop to about one a day.

edit: Whoops didnt see you already covered your bigotry for Muslims. good times

If you were better at reading comprehension, you might get the point. The things I mentioned happened. Do I really need to google how many people have lost jobs for saying the wrong things? Have you really never heard of AttackWatch? Did you miss the IRS scandal? I pointed out that certain opinions are not tolerated these days. It doesn't matter whether you agree with them or not. The point is that people should have a right to speak their mind without being punished. While private companies can and should decide what type of people they hire, it's not right for the companies to be bullied by the politically correct thugs. We've seen how the state controlled media handle stories of people who insulted liberals. We've seen how the same media totally ignored other stories when they were about liberals.

There is evidence that officials in Washington were behind the IRS scandal. Don't think for a moment that this administration is innocent in all the scandals surrounding it. It was enemies of liberals that were targeted by government. Think about that.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This thread is yet another tedious and failed attempt by the partisan right to contrive a ‘controversy’ where none exists.

 

[Plasmaball]

If you think about it, we did have though police a few years ago. Anyone remember AttackWatch? That was Obama's Soviet-style website where sheep were encouraged to snitch on people who were bad mouthing Obamacare. I was told by an idiot poster that he/she reported me for claiming that Obama was lying about some promises made before Obamacare was shoved through. While I didn't get a visit from the PC police, I was probably put on some list. Of course, now we know that the secret enemy list contains names of people who saw through the bullshit and knew he was lying.

And those who openly spoke out against liberal policies found themselves being audited by the IRS and denied tax-exempt status. Many Republican donors have been audited. That is worse than some cops showing up to ASK you to withdraw your comments. Having corrupt government bureaucrats come after you means no fair treatment and no recourse for the victim after they've been screwed.

I'd say we are being told to shut up in a very underhanded way. They can't stop free speech, something Obama lamented about during a speech to

, but they can and do make life hell for those who speak out against them.

Facebook takes down posts that they find offensive. Companies are being pressured to fire people who don't toe the line. How many people have lost their jobs for having the "wrong" opinion? Companies could very well fear reprisals if they don't make an example out of people who speak out against the current regime. Anything anti-liberal, anti-amnesty, anti-Muslim or anti-gay is viewed as hate speech and they do take action.

Some countries are more open about their policies regarding dissention. Our government is doing the same, only being secretive about it.

I blame islam....Without conspiracy your posts would drop to about one a day.

edit: Whoops didnt see you already covered your bigotry for Muslims. good times

If you were better at reading comprehension, you might get the point. The things I mentioned happened. Do I really need to google how many people have lost jobs for saying the wrong things? Have you really never heard of AttackWatch? Did you miss the IRS scandal? I pointed out that certain opinions are not tolerated these days. It doesn't matter whether you agree with them or not. The point is that people should have a right to speak their mind without being punished. While private companies can and should decide what type of people they hire, it's not right for the companies to be bullied by the politically correct thugs. We've seen how the state controlled media handle stories of people who insulted liberals. We've seen how the same media totally ignored other stories when they were about liberals.

There is evidence that officials in Washington were behind the IRS scandal. Don't think for a moment that this administration is innocent in all the scandals surrounding it. It was enemies of liberals that were targeted by government. Think about that.

ooo the thug word.....nice of you to abuse that word so it now has zero meaning period. A thug punches you in the face and takes your purse. I know, i know you think something along those lines happened and thus you are somehow justified in your use of the word thug.Then again you are a crazy old nutjob who will soon be put out for her long walk hopefully.

IRS isnt a scandal.

Yeah certain opinions are not accepted these days. Welcome to culture in 2014 you stupid fuck. You see all through human history society has deemed by public opinion what is acceptable and what is not. At one point it was not acceptable to date someone outside your race. At one point a woman wear pants. At one point children could work from a young age. At one point saying jerk on tv was shocking.

The issue is culture is passing you by like it should be, and you dont like it. You are a dinosaur and that giant meteor is on the horizon.

See you can say whatever you damn please in public. No law enforcement is going to stop you( less you are screaming like a loon)But you can say you hate Muslims all day long. The problem you an other people like you seem to have is this. You don't like the consequences of your actions. So when people say " hey you shouldn't be saying that" you cry and whine and scream persecution. Its typical of people like you. Zero personal responsibility but scream others should be. ( see abortion or kids etc)

That about sums up people like you.

 

[Iceweasel]

A black helo just landed in my back yard. Am I in trouble?

 

[KNB]

What do UK police and a blogger have to do with Obama or socialism? What is wrong with you people? "The Kenyan is taking us in that direction! Fuckin' DURRR!" When is Obama going to implement socialism? On his last day in office? He's had six years so far and the richest 1% have made 95% of the financial gains since 2009. That sure sounds like Obama is taking billions from the rich to give to the poor as food stamps.

So when's he going to get around to all of that Liberal Marxist Maoist socialism? Or is that just something that retarded right-wing white trash American Taliban Teabagger Republicans keep telling themselves so that they don't have to admit that they just hate Obama because he's black?

 

[HenryBHough]

He's had six years so far and the richest 1% have made 95% of the financial gains since 2009. That sure sounds like Obama is taking billions from the rich to give to the poor as food stamps.

So when's he going to get around to all of that Liberal Marxist Maoist socialism? Or is that just something that retarded right-wing white trash American Taliban Teabagger Republicans keep telling themselves so that they don't have to admit that they just hate Obama because he's black?

1. Please do not project your own lack of job skills and financial ineptitude onto the rest of us.

2. What is it about you liberals that make you couch everything in obscenity? Is it some genetic fascination with various forms of sexual depravity?

3. Have you anything left other than crying "racism"?

Anything at all?

 

[KNB]

He's had six years so far and the richest 1% have made 95% of the financial gains since 2009. That sure sounds like Obama is taking billions from the rich to give to the poor as food stamps.

So when's he going to get around to all of that Liberal Marxist Maoist socialism? Or is that just something that retarded right-wing white trash American Taliban Teabagger Republicans keep telling themselves so that they don't have to admit that they just hate Obama because he's black?

1. Please do not project your own lack of job skills and financial ineptitude onto the rest of us.

2. What is it about you liberals that make you couch everything in obscenity? Is it some genetic fascination with various forms of sexual depravity?

3. Have you anything left other than crying "racism"?

Anything at all?

1) The richest 1% have made 95% of the financial gains since 2009. Pllease explain, professor, how that is "socialism"?
https://www.google.com/search?q=95%25+financial+gains+1%25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

2) Oh, I'm sorry to offend your good Christian senses with my profanity, you fucking little monkey. Your god-damned country has been killing civilians across two continents for ten straight years in a war that the CIA specifically designed to never end, so excuse me if the word "fuck" doesn't even register on my moral scale when compared to the bodycount in America's beloved torture war of terror.

3) Yes, I do.

Americans owe their freedom to pot growers.

 

[Amelia]

Damn, isn't that what they said in Germany? It can't happen here.

During the 2010 election run-up, liberals in Wisconsin used LEO's to keep conservatives from holding up their own signs or being in the first five rows of a public event. The officers held conservatives at the main entrance and forced them to relinquish their signs while ushering approved attendees to a special entrance so they could pick up preapproved liberal signs and fill the front rows.

during the 04 election both Kerry and Bush had demonstration zones about 5 miles away from the actual events, All fenced in....

guess what they used to keep people in line? LEO's...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Oh and this was pointed out to people on a mainly rightwing board at the time. They ignored it.

So please save the fakerage.

Even excusing whatever hyperbole your claim may involve, that's completely different from the case I described.

LEO's shielding candidates from demonstrators is completely different from LEO's helping to stack a public event so that one party gets the good coverage and is allowed to hold up placards so that their positions show on camera while the other party is shunted to the back of the room and not allowed to hold up signs.

 

[HenryBHough]

2) Oh, I'm sorry to offend your good Christian senses with my profanity, you fucking little monkey. Your god-damned country has been killing civilians across two continents for ten straight years in a war that the CIA specifically designed to never end, so excuse me if the word "fuck" doesn't even register on my moral scale when compared to the bodycount in America's beloved torture war of terror.

If enough of us go about it just right we can provoke this foul-mouth Marxist into an actual paroxysm that leads to a massive stroke. Seems we're pretty close already......

 

[kaz]

.

This is obviously where we're headed.

While the idea of such an authoritarian environment is repulsive to many us, the Left feels it would somehow make us a more civilized society. Good little scared subjects who are literally afraid to say things that run counter to "acceptable" speech, as it is deemed by the central authority.

It's chilling, but they're all for it.

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Liberals have the right to express their views free from criticism you know. And when people hear non-liberal views, it just confuses them, so that needs to be prevented. Only by hearing unchallenged liberal views are we free to express our views. Don't ya think?

 

[kaz]

Another fine kook victimhood conspiracy thread.

Wrong, there's no conspiracy. You're doing it in the open.

 

[AVG-JOE]

We feel safe expressing ourselves on USMB. No problem with listing reasons to do or not to do some things. No issue over mocking political opponents.

For now.

But remember, Our Kenyan President is enamoured of European socialism and want to make it yours.

Europe has already a sheaf of laws that make open expression difficult. Their libel and slander laws are much different that those we now have. It's not very hard to suppress something you don't like just by mentioning the possibility of an expensive lawsuit.

But to have your door knocked on by police telling you to remove a post from this or some other website/social interaction medium?

Can't happen here!

Not yet.

But in England it's already happened:

Police ask blogger to remove tweet about Ukip | Politics | theguardian.com

Notice, the police did ASK, not demand and told the subject he had done nothing against the law. Yet the visit was enough to cause him to remove the "offensive" post though it had been re-Tweeted hundreds of times and was long out of his control. But will he dare "offend" again and risk another visit? Perhaps a less friendly one?

What would you do?


No, let me rephrase that to reflect the trend in Obamerica:

What WILL you do?

This is WAY bigger than Obama! And we need not wait for it to happen here.

I heard that the Miami Dolphins disciplined a player for tweeting a negative comment about the NFL's first openly gay player.

I understand that there's more at stake than just a dude speaking his mind, he's a well paid member of the NFL with a certain notoriety; and I honestly don't know how my employer would feel about a similar tweet under similar circumstances - I can't relate to being in the NFL - I think he's being paranoid for all the wrong reasons, but I support his right to open his mouth and prove himself a fool, NFL or not.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Truth be told, if there is any fear of retribution over me speaking my mind it's fear of a whack-job with a gun, not the police.

I guess it's in the realm of possibilities, but I'm not going to lose any sleep.

 

[hortysir]

We feel safe expressing ourselves on USMB. No problem with listing reasons to do or not to do some things. No issue over mocking political opponents.

For now.

But remember, Our Kenyan President is enamoured of European socialism and want to make it yours.

Europe has already a sheaf of laws that make open expression difficult. Their libel and slander laws are much different that those we now have. It's not very hard to suppress something you don't like just by mentioning the possibility of an expensive lawsuit.

But to have your door knocked on by police telling you to remove a post from this or some other website/social interaction medium?

Can't happen here!

Not yet.

But in England it's already happened:

Police ask blogger to remove tweet about Ukip | Politics | theguardian.com

Notice, the police did ASK, not demand and told the subject he had done nothing against the law. Yet the visit was enough to cause him to remove the "offensive" post though it had been re-Tweeted hundreds of times and was long out of his control. But will he dare "offend" again and risk another visit? Perhaps a less friendly one?

What would you do?


No, let me rephrase that to reflect the trend in Obamerica:

What WILL you do?

This is ignorant hyperbolic nonsense and partisan demagoguery; it's not going to "happen here."

"OMG"

"Horrible"


just a couple recent examples

 

[Plasmaball]

We feel safe expressing ourselves on USMB. No problem with listing reasons to do or not to do some things. No issue over mocking political opponents.

For now.

But remember, Our Kenyan President is enamoured of European socialism and want to make it yours.

Europe has already a sheaf of laws that make open expression difficult. Their libel and slander laws are much different that those we now have. It's not very hard to suppress something you don't like just by mentioning the possibility of an expensive lawsuit.

But to have your door knocked on by police telling you to remove a post from this or some other website/social interaction medium?

Can't happen here!

Not yet.

But in England it's already happened:

Police ask blogger to remove tweet about Ukip | Politics | theguardian.com

Notice, the police did ASK, not demand and told the subject he had done nothing against the law. Yet the visit was enough to cause him to remove the "offensive" post though it had been re-Tweeted hundreds of times and was long out of his control. But will he dare "offend" again and risk another visit? Perhaps a less friendly one?

What would you do?


No, let me rephrase that to reflect the trend in Obamerica:

What WILL you do?

This is ignorant hyperbolic nonsense and partisan demagoguery; it's not going to "happen here."

"OMG"

"Horrible"


just a couple recent examples

timing and context matters, and also the NFL has always been PC about things. They are a family oriented cover all bases business about making money.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Our Kenyan President is stupid, and HBH is not sane.

 

[mamooth]

Thread conclusion: No conservative male on this thread possesses testicles. Based on the evidence of this thread, only squealing eunuchs who live in a constant state of self-induced hysteria are allowed in the GOP.

Now boys ... or girls, it's hard to tell with conservatives ... tell us some more with those shrill lisping voices of yours, about how the liberals are out to get you everywhere. I'll even fetch some more tissue for you, so your makeup doesn't run.

 

[hortysir]

Thread conclusion: No conservative male on this thread possesses testicles. Based on the evidence of this thread, only squealing eunuchs who live in a constant state of self-induced hysteria are allowed in the GOP.

Now boys ... or girls, it's hard to tell with conservatives ... tell us some more with those shrill lisping voices of yours, about how the liberals are out to get you everywhere. I'll even fetch some more tissue for you, so your makeup doesn't run.

Not just liberals.

Our uber-pc crowd and super-sensitive censorship has been growing since, I'd say probably, Bush Sr's CIA.
Orwell wasn't off by as many years as some think.

Check my sig-line....not just transactions, though, also their motives.

Any government, when granted as much power as ours has, will stifle opposing voices.
see: Lincoln

 

[The Rabbi]

Damn, isn't that what they said in Germany? It can't happen here.

During the 2010 election run-up, liberals in Wisconsin used LEO's to keep conservatives from holding up their own signs or being in the first five rows of a public event. The officers held conservatives at the main entrance and forced them to relinquish their signs while ushering approved attendees to a special entrance so they could pick up preapproved liberal signs and fill the front rows.

during the 04 election both Kerry and Bush had demonstration zones about 5 miles away from the actual events, All fenced in....

guess what they used to keep people in line? LEO's...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Oh and this was pointed out to people on a mainly rightwing board at the time. They ignored it.

So please save the fakerage.

So that makles it OK? I'm confused here. WHy are you pointing out something sort of similar but not really at all comparable that happened 10 years ago?

 

[The Rabbi]

We can just ask, How many of us would like our posts forwarded on to our bosses at work? What would you do if a liberal (or conservative for that matter, although conservatives dont generally go for that sort of thing) threatened to send your posts to your superiors at work?