Supreme Ct. Justice Scalia predicts New Internment Camps

[bendog]

I'm sorry, I just can't read her. Imo, a case of ritalan gone bad. If you can link me to a skinny, with topic sentences and connectors, such as "thus, rationally, therefore, furthermore," I'd be more than willing to give it a shot.

 

[Sawbriars]

Iran threatened America 2 days ago>>>>>https://www.google.com/url?q=http://resistancejournals.blogspot.com/2014/02/iran

 

[Sawbriars]

The above link did not work..............try this one on Iran Targets America>>>>>https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2014%2F02%2F01%2Firanian-commander-we-have-targets-within-america%2F&ei=SXDxUqGgM8Tb2QXFn4CQDg&usg=AFQjCNEXnXA7GByTG7ovZYjWCZMpKzeBFg&bvm=bv.60799247,d.b2I

 

[emilynghiem]

For those who have no idea what the OP is talking about: Justice Antonin Scalia says World War II-style internment camps could happen again | WashingtonExaminer.com

Yes and no. Not literally, but perhaps figuratively to a lighter degree but on a public scale.

There already have been detainments and excessive harsh treatment suspected terrorists without Constitutional due process normally afforded citizens, since many of these people were not US citizens or were already assumed to be enemy combatants against the state.

From complaints against Gitmo to a student in Colorado who was jailed for failing to meet the requirement that foreign students enroll in a minimum number of classes.

This has already been happening on a MILD level. Whole Mosques were targeted in Tennessee POLITICALLY by candidates competing for the far right Conservative votes.

Not necessarily detained in camps, but bullied and stifled by political and legal abuses,
using those venues as WEAPONS.

And the whole issue of the Patriot Act and the NSA spying on Americans
is more on an ABSTRACT level.

Targeting political opponents by abusing the IRS; selectively abusing the Judicial branch to push for or against certain political agenda as constitutional or not constitutional is another way to handicap political opposition as enemies, even if you are not jailing them physically.

 

[Sawbriars]

For those who have no idea what the OP is talking about: Justice Antonin Scalia says World War II-style internment camps could happen again | WashingtonExaminer.com

Yes and no. Not literally, but perhaps figuratively to a lighter degree but on a public scale.

There already have been detainments and excessive harsh treatment suspected terrorists without Constitutional due process normally afforded citizens, since many of these people were not US citizens or were already assumed to be enemy combatants against the state.

From complaints against Gitmo to a student in Colorado who was jailed for failing to meet the requirement that foreign students enroll in a minimum number of classes.

This has already been happening on a MILD level. Whole Mosques were targeted in Tennessee POLITICALLY by candidates competing for the far right Conservative votes.

Not necessarily detained in camps, but bullied and stifled by political and legal abuses,
using those venues as WEAPONS.

And the whole issue of the Patriot Act and the NSA spying on Americans
is more on an ABSTRACT level.

Targeting political opponents by abusing the IRS; selectively abusing the Judicial branch to push for or against certain political agenda as constitutional or not constitutional is another way to handicap political opposition as enemies, even if you are not jailing them physically.

This is the sort of thinking we have seen liberals engage in from the beginning of time..........they may not be interested in your welfare and safety nor the welfare and safety of your children...perhaps not even concerned about their own welfare and safety....but they definitely will pursue their agenda until the moment America is destroyed.

In a nutshell these types are extremely arrogant....simply do not believe that America could be destroyed....and they are incapable of being taught....no matter how many Pearl Harbor attacks or World Trade Centere type attacks we might endure....they will never cease from promoting their stupid and ridiculous agenda.

Sad to say...not all people who think like the above poster are democrats.....way toooo many politically correct republicans also think that way....hence the reason they keep losing to the democrats..........a million plus real conservatives stayed home rather than vote for a liberal politically correct republican.

 

[Sawbriars]

I'm sorry, I just can't read her. Imo, a case of ritalan gone bad. If you can link me to a skinny, with topic sentences and connectors, such as "thus, rationally, therefore, furthermore," I'd be more than willing to give it a shot.

You might find this ineresting>>>>>[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Intelligence-Evacuation-Japanese-Residents/dp/0960273611]Magic: The Untold Story of U.S. Intelligence and the Evacuation of Japanese Residents from the West Coast During Ww II: David D. Lowman: 9780960273614: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]

 

[Sawbriars]

In reference to the above post about 'Magic'...................In late 1940 members of the U.S. Army Signal Intelligence Service broke Japan's highest level diplomatic code and then constructed a machine that was an analog of the one used by the Japanese. This allowed the U.S. to read Japan's diplomatic traffic from then until after the end of the war. Intelligence thus gained was cover named MAGIC because it seemed that only magicians could have produced it.
Among the decoded messages of 1941 were a number detailing espionage planning and operations involving Japanese-Americans along the West Coast. In February 1942 President Roosevelt authorized the evacuation of all persons of Japanese ancestry.

In 1983 a congressional commission, ignoring available declassified intelligence and ignorant of MAGIC revelations, concluded the President's action was the result of racism, war hysteria and lack of political will.

Now for the first time David D. Lowman, using MAGIC messages and declassified Army, Navy and FBI reports, presents the real reasons for the evacuation. As a former high level officer in the National Security Agency and a witness before congressional committees dealing with the evacuation he was uniquely qualified to tell this story. Those who could never quite believe the base motives attributed to our wartime leaders and our country will find Lowman's story compelling.

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[Sawbriars]

Japanese Evacuation from the West Coast.....1942

HyperWar: Final Report--Japanese Evacuation from the West Coast

 

[Sawbriars]

More on the evacuation of the Japanese from the West Coast>>>>>>Relocation of Japanese Americans - War Relocation Authority - 1943

 

[westwall]

Not sure....but if you are implying i was saying that it could not happen again....that was not the message I intended to send.

My primary message was that Roosevelt was right and to add to it.....we should open internment camps for radical wannabe terrorists

We have a camp for terrorists. It's called Camp Delta.

The modern day parallel to what FDR did would be to lock up Muslims for being Muslims. And you are an unmitigated asshole if you think that is a good idea.

There was a Senate Bill proposed a few years back that would have given the government the power to put suspected drug users in camps. Give the government the foot in the door and eventually they will figure out a way to open it all the way. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

 

[Unkotare]

In this Scalia refers to Roosevelt's wartime policy of internment as being wrong...

FD-fucking-R's concentration camps weren't just "wrong," they were immoral, unconstitutional, and un-American. The courts at all levels have long recognized this, and the government formally admitted to and apologized for it.

 

[Unkotare]

My primary message was that Roosevelt was right ...

FDR was a piece of shit and so are you.

 

[hazlnut]

This story illustrates the stupidity of allowing these guys to stay on the court until they die.....what happens is that they get old and senile....not even to mention some of them are not even qualified when appointed.

In this Scalia refers to Roosevelt's wartime policy of internment as being wrong....thus showing that even Supreme Ct. Justices are susceptible to politically correct propaganda.

Now for the truth>>>>>>>>>>>>>Michelle Malkin | » IN DEFENSE OF INTERNMENT

Time to hang up the robe, buddy.

 

[Sawbriars]

Everything you've been taught about the World War II "internment camps" in America is wrong: - They were not created primarily because of racism or wartime hysteria

- They did not target only those of Japanese descent

- They were not Nazi-style death camps

In her latest investigative tour-de-force, New York Times best-selling author Michelle Malkin sets the historical record straight-and debunks radical ethnic alarmists who distort history to undermine common-sense, national security profiling.

The need for this myth-shattering book is vital.

President Bush's opponents have attacked every homeland defense policy as tantamount to the "racist" and "unjustified" World War II internment. Bush's own transportation secretary, Norm Mineta, continues to milk his childhood experience at a relocation camp as an excuse to ban profiling at airports.

Misguided guilt about the past continues to hamper our ability to prevent future terrorist attacks.

In Defense of Internment shows that the detention of enemy aliens, and the mass evacuation and relocation of ethnic Japanese from the West Coast were not the result of irrational hatred or conspiratorial bigotry.

This document-packed book highlights the vast amount of intelligence, including top-secret "MAGIC" messages, which revealed the Japanese espionage threat on the West Coast. Malkin also tells the truth about:

- who resided in enemy alien internment camps (nearly half were of European ancestry)

- what the West Coast relocation centers were really like (tens of thousands of ethnic Japanese were allowed to leave; hundreds voluntarily chose to move in)
- why the $1.65 billion federal reparations law for Japanese internees and evacuees
was a bipartisan disaster
- and how both Japanese American and Arab/Muslim American leaders have united

to undermine America's safety. With trademark fearlessness, Malkin adds desperately needed perspective to the ongoing debate about the balance between civil liberties and national security. In Defense of Internment will outrage, enlighten, and radically change the way you view the past-and the present.

About the Author
Michelle Malkin is author of the New York Times best-seller, Invasion, which ignited debate on immigration and national security in the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks on America. Her nationally syndicated newspaper column, celebrating its fifth year with Creators Syndicate, is published in nearly 200 newspapers across the country. Malkin is a FOX News Channel contributor and former editorial writer and columnist for the Seattle Times and the Los Angeles Daily News. Malkin lives with her husband and children in Maryland.
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Michelle Malkin
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Michelle Malkin is a New York Times best-selling author, nationally syndicated newspaper columnist, and FOX News Channel contributor. Malkin lives with her husband and children in Maryland.

She has never cried over an election, marched naked in Berkeley, thrown a pie, or tackled a liberal heckler. Yet.

 

[Unkotare]

I have read that the reason FDR did what he did was because he wanted to remove Japanese spies from the coast. So instead of filtering out the spies they sent all Japanese to interment camps. Don't absolutely know if that is true or not.

It's bullshit, because they didn't round up every person of Japanese descent on Hawaii where any such spying would have been much more likely (not to mention the fact that relatively few - though far too many if even 1 - German or Italian Americans were rounded up on the East coast). The fact is that no Japanese-American was ever convicted of espionage or sabotage throughout WWII. Instead, they made up the large part of the most decorated unit in US military history. There were some boys from Texas who could attest to that.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I have read that the reason FDR did what he did was because he wanted to remove Japanese spies from the coast. So instead of filtering out the spies they sent all Japanese to interment camps. Don't absolutely know if that is true or not.

It's bullshit, because they didn't round up every person of Japanese descent on Hawaii where any such spying would have been much more likely (not to mention the fact that relatively few - though far too many if even 1 - German or Italian Americans were rounded up on the East coast). The fact is that no Japanese-American was ever convicted of espionage or sabotage throughout WWII. Instead, they made up the large part of the most decorated unit in US military history. There were some boys from Texas who could attest to that.

FDR, under pressure from military and civilian leadership, particularly, in CA gave in and ordered the relocation camps.

Since the Japanese Americans in Hawaii made up a huge number of the work force, guess what?

 

[Sawbriars]

Obama Forbids the FBI to monitor mosques......just another gift for the libtards and one more reason America would be better off without him.


Obama Forbids FBI from Monitoring Mosques - Columbia Public Policy | Examiner.com

 

[Unkotare]

Obama Forbids the FBI to monitor mosques......just another gift for the libtards and one more reason America would be better off without him.

We'd be better off with someone more capable as President for sure, but the country would be much better off without YOU at all. If you really care about the country, get the fuck out and don't come back.

 

[Sawbriars]

I have read that the reason FDR did what he did was because he wanted to remove Japanese spies from the coast. So instead of filtering out the spies they sent all Japanese to interment camps. Don't absolutely know if that is true or not.

It's bullshit, because they didn't round up every person of Japanese descent on Hawaii where any such spying would have been much more likely (not to mention the fact that relatively few - though far too many if even 1 - German or Italian Americans were rounded up on the East coast). The fact is that no Japanese-American was ever convicted of espionage or sabotage throughout WWII. Instead, they made up the large part of the most decorated unit in US military history. There were some boys from Texas who could attest to that.

Hawaii was basically a military camp.....the Japanese there were heavily monitored and over 2000 were place in confinement.

At the start of World War II, under the authority of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, the United States government detained and interned over 11,000 German enemy aliens, as well as a small number of German-American citizens, either naturalized or native-born. Their ranks included immigrants to the U.S. as well as visitors stranded in the U.S. by hostilities. In many cases, the families of the internees were allowed to remain together at internment camps in the U.S. In other cases, families were separated. Limited due process was allowed for those arrested and detained.
The population of German citizens in the United States – not to mention American citizens of German birth – was far too large for a general policy of internment comparable to that used in the case of the Japanese in America.[23] Instead, German citizens were detained and evicted from coastal areas on an individual basis. The War Department considered mass expulsions from coastal areas for reasons of military security, but never executed such plans.[24]
A total of 11,507 Germans and German-Americans were interned during the war, accounting for 36% of the total internments under the Justice Department's Enemy Alien Control Program, but far less than the 110,000 Japanese-Americans interned.[25] Such internments began with the detention of 1,260 Germans shortly after the attack on Pearl Harbor.[26] Of the 254 persons evicted from coastal areas, the majority were German.[27]
In addition, over 4,500 ethnic Germans were brought to the U.S. from Latin America and similarly detained. The Federal Bureau of Investigation drafted a list of Germans in fifteen Latin American countries whom it suspected of subversive activities and, following the attack on Pearl Harbor, demanded their eviction to the U.S. for detention.[28] The countries that responded expelled 4,058 people.[29] Some 10% to 15% were Nazi party members, including approximately a dozen who were recruiters for the NSDAP/AO, roughly the overseas arm of the Nazi party. Just eight were people suspected of espionage.[30] Also transferred were some 81 Jewish Germans who had recently fled persecution in Nazi Germany.[30] Many had been residents of Latin America for years, some for decades.[30] In some instances, corrupt Latin American officials took the opportunity to seize their property. Sometimes financial rewards paid by American intelligence led to someone's identification and expulsion.[30] Several countries did not participate in the program, while others operated their own detention facilities.[30][31]
The U.S. internment camps to which Germans from Latin America were directed included:[30]
Texas
Crystal City
Kenedy
Seagoville
Florida
Camp Blanding
Oklahoma
Stringtown
North Dakota
Fort Lincoln
Tennessee
Camp Forrest

 

[Darkwind]

Not sure....but if you are implying i was saying that it could not happen again....that was not the message I intended to send.

My primary message was that Roosevelt was right and to add to it.....we should open internment camps for radical wannabe terrorists....in this time of weapons of mass destruction aka suitcase nukes etc. and lest we forget the warning issued by Iran just a couple of days of ago of claiming to have agents in place in America with targest and that they are primed to attack these targets in America if America sides with Israel and launches a pre-emptive strike on Iran....thus I think it entirely prudent that we launch a new program of internment using a wide net to snatch up these would be terrorists before they can launch an attack on America from within.

You do understand the concept of 'presumed innocent', right?