Super Tuesday Gut Check Time

[teapartysamurai]

LMAO. YOu've been had. The tea party started with ron paul supporters in 2007 and it spread and was then hijacked.

SANTORUM, was pro-choice before he became a pro-life advocate. Not that I care.

I think we see who's been had. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF of Rick Santorum being pro-choice. Still waiting.

 

[teapartysamurai]

It's just funny how fucking stupid people are and don't even know their own movements history.

Dude, your an idiot. Did you hear what they were protesting?

How many tea partiers want to get rid of the Patriot Act or wanted to end the Iraq war without victory? Answer DAMN FEW!

That's was Crazy Ron Paul and his pathetic supporters, not the NATIONAL MOVEMENT that protested Obamacare or the Obama Stimulus, or Obama's socialism.

Hell, I bet Ron Paul LOVES Obama's foreign policy. The only difference between the two is Obama hasn't cut off Israel's aid and Ron Paul would.



NOT EVEN CLOSE.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Is it ron paul or rick santorum you want?? Which is it? Because you don't obviously have a fucking clue about what you think you stand for.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

It's just funny how fucking stupid people are and don't even know their own movements history.

Dude, your an idiot. Did you hear what they were protesting?

How many tea partiers want to get rid of the Patriot Act or wanted to end the Iraq war without victory? Answer DAMN FEW!

That's was Crazy Ron Paul and his pathetic supporters, not the NATIONAL MOVEMENT that protested Obamacare or the Obama Stimulus, or Obama's socialism.

Hell, I bet Ron Paul LOVES Obama's foreign policy. The only difference between the two is Obama hasn't cut off Israel's aid and Ron Paul would.



NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Changing the goal posts. The tea party was hijacked by neocons, as I already stated. Funded by the Koch bros. and those ranting morans you linked to.

I care not. But rest assured, I'm no idiot and I KNOW where that movement started because I was part of it until I saw what was happening.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Is it ron paul or rick santorum you want?? Which is it? Because you don't obviously have a fucking clue about what you think you stand for.

When someone is LOSING THE DEBATE, they try to change the subject and make it ABOUT YOU.

Now I have to justify my vote to you? Oh hell no!

You are the one claiming Rick Santorum was pro-abortion at one time. STILL WAITING FOR THAT PROOF, LIAR.

And then YOU trying to equate that PATHETIC protest of BUSH POLICIES as the origin for the NATIONAL TEA PARTY MOVEMENT AGAINST OBAMA policy which is equally hilarious.

I guess you can see both are crumbling, so now you have to change the subject and make it about me. Nice try, but I've seen that one before.

 

[teapartysamurai]

It's just funny how fucking stupid people are and don't even know their own movements history.

Dude, your an idiot. Did you hear what they were protesting?

How many tea partiers want to get rid of the Patriot Act or wanted to end the Iraq war without victory? Answer DAMN FEW!

That's was Crazy Ron Paul and his pathetic supporters, not the NATIONAL MOVEMENT that protested Obamacare or the Obama Stimulus, or Obama's socialism.

Hell, I bet Ron Paul LOVES Obama's foreign policy. The only difference between the two is Obama hasn't cut off Israel's aid and Ron Paul would.



NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Changing the goal posts. The tea party was hijacked by neocons, as I already stated. Funded by the Koch bros. and those ranting morans you linked to.

I care not. But rest assured, I'm no idiot and I KNOW where that movement started because I was part of it until I saw what was happening.

This is TYPICAL of a Ron Paulbot.

They claim they "founded" and thus "own" the Tea Party, but when they are confronted with how RADICALLY DIFFERENT the views of the Tea Party are to Crazy Ron Paul.

Well, OF COURSE, the answer is, it's a NEO-CON CONSPIRACY!!!!!!

Who's moving the bar? I think you might want to leave the bar and sober up before posting any more.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Ron Paul supporters founded the tea party. They were de-centralized. Morans moved in.

Exhibit (A)

The intellectuals left, along with all the ron paul supporters (after a disastrous muck) and there you have it. Idiots controlled by corporatist idiots.

You smell like that frothy mix of lube and fecal matter.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Is TPS actually pretending Santorum is more conservative than Paul? Is he practicing some comedy bit?

Ron Paul: Santorum is ‘very liberal’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

"He voted to double the size of the Department of Education," Rand Paul said. "He voted to expand Medicare and add free drugs for senior citizens and he has voted for foreign aid. Those are not conservative principles. Seventy-seven percent of the American people are opposed to foreign aid and Rick Santorum has voted for it every time it's come down."

I also think it's cute how he's attacking Paul on earmarks that even TPS admits he didn't vote for, Santorum outspokenly disagrees with TPS and will happily defend earmarks.

Rick Santorum Defends Earmarks | Video - ABC News

Rick Santorum: How Conservative Is He?

The highest score Santorum earned in a two-year congressional term was 73 percent, and his lowest score was 44 percent (in his last two years as Senator). His “Conservative Index” scores indicate that, on the whole, his voting record is not nearly as conservative as his campaign rhetoric suggests, and not as conservative as many voters perceive him to be.

While in Congress, Santorum also supported the GOP “team” by consistently voting in favor of big appropriations bills backed by his party leadership, even when those spending bills contained huge increases in federal welfare spending and increased deficits. Santorum was definitely a Republican team player, even when the team was pushing for deficit spending. This team effort also included five votes by Santorum to increase the national debt limit to accommodate new borrowing during his tenure in Congress.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Is TPS actually pretending Santorum is more conservative than Paul? Is he practicing some comedy bit?

Ron Paul: Santorum is ‘very liberal’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

"He voted to double the size of the Department of Education," Rand Paul said. "He voted to expand Medicare and add free drugs for senior citizens and he has voted for foreign aid. Those are not conservative principles. Seventy-seven percent of the American people are opposed to foreign aid and Rick Santorum has voted for it every time it's come down."

I also think it's cute how he's attacking Paul on earmarks that even TPS admits he didn't vote for, Santorum outspokenly disagrees with TPS and will happily defend earmarks.

Rick Santorum Defends Earmarks | Video - ABC News

Rick Santorum: How Conservative Is He?

The highest score Santorum earned in a two-year congressional term was 73 percent, and his lowest score was 44 percent (in his last two years as Senator). His “Conservative Index” scores indicate that, on the whole, his voting record is not nearly as conservative as his campaign rhetoric suggests, and not as conservative as many voters perceive him to be.

While in Congress, Santorum also supported the GOP “team” by consistently voting in favor of big appropriations bills backed by his party leadership, even when those spending bills contained huge increases in federal welfare spending and increased deficits. Santorum was definitely a Republican team player, even when the team was pushing for deficit spending. This team effort also included five votes by Santorum to increase the national debt limit to accommodate new borrowing during his tenure in Congress.

Romney supported Obamacare light, gay marriage, and global warming as Gov of Taxachusetts.

NOW he tells us he doesn't believe in those things?

Santorum isn't perfect. No question about it.

But between an Obamalite flip flopper like Romney;

And a womanizing, ego bloated, narcissist like Newt Gingrich;

Santorum is our best candidate to win in November.

I stand by that view.

 

[GuyPinestra]

You should be willing to admit that the Tea Party was started by Paulites, too. It was.

I was with them in 2007 in Arizona.

No, I don't have any video...

 

[Dr.Drock]

Is TPS actually pretending Santorum is more conservative than Paul? Is he practicing some comedy bit?

Ron Paul: Santorum is ‘very liberal’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

"He voted to double the size of the Department of Education," Rand Paul said. "He voted to expand Medicare and add free drugs for senior citizens and he has voted for foreign aid. Those are not conservative principles. Seventy-seven percent of the American people are opposed to foreign aid and Rick Santorum has voted for it every time it's come down."

I also think it's cute how he's attacking Paul on earmarks that even TPS admits he didn't vote for, Santorum outspokenly disagrees with TPS and will happily defend earmarks.

Rick Santorum Defends Earmarks | Video - ABC News

Rick Santorum: How Conservative Is He?

The highest score Santorum earned in a two-year congressional term was 73 percent, and his lowest score was 44 percent (in his last two years as Senator). His “Conservative Index” scores indicate that, on the whole, his voting record is not nearly as conservative as his campaign rhetoric suggests, and not as conservative as many voters perceive him to be.

While in Congress, Santorum also supported the GOP “team” by consistently voting in favor of big appropriations bills backed by his party leadership, even when those spending bills contained huge increases in federal welfare spending and increased deficits. Santorum was definitely a Republican team player, even when the team was pushing for deficit spending. This team effort also included five votes by Santorum to increase the national debt limit to accommodate new borrowing during his tenure in Congress.

Romney supported Obamacare light, gay marriage, and global warming as Gov of Taxachusetts.

NOW he tells us he doesn't believe in those things?

Santorum isn't perfect. No question about it.

But between an Obamalite flip flopper like Romney;

And a womanizing, ego bloated, narcissist like Newt Gingrich;

Santorum is our best candidate to win in November.

I stand by that view.

Well I'll give you credit, you didn't deny all the liberal aspects of Santorum's voting record as most would. I was just surprised to see you attack Paul on earmarks and support Santorum when he has no problem with them and votes in favor of them.

Your views on Romney and Gingrich I agree with.

 

[Gadawg73]

Romney is the nominee. Time to unite.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Romney is the nominee. Time to unite.

The father of Obamacare vs the man who stole the idea from him, I want nothing to do with that allegiance.

 

[Gadawg73]

Romney is the nominee. Time to unite.

The father of Obamacare vs the man who stole the idea from him, I want nothing to do with that allegiance.

Drock, let me appeal to your reason and common sense which I know you have both.
Take a look at what the Mass. Legislature passed and what Romney gave them.
Like night and day.
What the Legislature passed up there is in now way indicative and in no way resembles the bill he proposed and gave them.
And how many times did Romney have the votes to veto that legislatures legislation? 700 something.
But he did not have them on that one.
Media myths. He had nothing much to do with the net result of that bill.

 

[kwc57]

In other words, you know Im right. So you aren't a conservative either. you're, like Ricky boy, a fucking poser. Did you get the Ricky hat and shirt for the occasion?

She got a sweater vest.

Better a sweater vest than a Ron Paul tin foil hat!

Negative, Ron Paul passes out Constitutions. He should have handed them out to all of his running mates at the debates so they could have a quick reference to unfamiliar material.

 

[kwc57]

It is called the Tea Party movement and it was started on December 16, 2007…by Ron Paul supporters.

Widely unrecognized in Republican enclaves as the founding event of the movement, the Ron Paul candidacy is inarguably the precursor to the current Tea Party species. Following the trail of its origin provides a fascinating illustration of how a movement, and hence culture, evolves. And it is within these roots that one can find the promise, and impending dilemma, of this young movement as it grows and changes the political landscape.



Read more: The Tea Party and its impending dilemma | The Daily Caller

“We have a lot of time to close in the polls,” Benton said, and he asserted traditional polls “underestimate … Paul’s real support.”


That’s partly because they attempt to query folks who have voted Republican, and Benton asserted that Paul’s base draws heavily from those who have shied away from the party or were not previously politically active.


For instance, he said 24,940 new donors contributed during the Dec. 16 haul.


It was timed for the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, a day meant to resonant with the libertarian sensibilities of his supporters.

Ron Paul becomes $6 million man - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO.com


On December 16, 2007, on the two-hundred-and-thirty-fourth anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, Ron Paul, congressman and Presidential candidate, presided over a nationwide fund-raiser. This was a new tea party, with a new slogan: “Liberty is brewing.” In Boston, hundreds of Paul’s supporters marched to Faneuil Hall. Paul himself appeared in Freeport, Texas, where organizers had prepared barrels for him to dump into the Brazos River. One barrel read “United Nations”; another read “I.R.S.” The campaign raised more than six million dollars in one day, which was a record, and the event prefigured the protests that became common as the Tea Party movement coalesced, in 2009. The movement, with its focus on economic liberty and small government, sometimes seemed like a continuation of Paul’s campaign for the Republican nomination, during which he won a great deal of attention and a modest number of votes. It’s not much of a stretch to call him the “Godfather of the Tea Party,” as his campaign literature does, quoting Fox News. Ron Paul was ahead of his time.

Read more Ron Paul’s Libertarian Roots : The New Yorker

One way to measure the surprising rightward political lurch of the past two years and rise of the Tea Party is to chart the relative position of Ron Paul, who has never flinched from his beliefs. He’s not alone anymore.

To address these grievances, Paul was ready and waiting. He is not the Tea Party’s founder (there isn’t one), or its culturally resonant figure (that’s Sarah Palin), but something more like its brain, its Marx or Madison. He has become its intellectual godfather—and its actual father, in the case of its brightest rising star, his son Rand Paul, Kentucky’s GOP Senate nominee. The Tea Party has overrun the Republican Party everywhere from Alaska to Kentucky to Maine, and a version of Paul’s bill to audit the Federal Reserve just passed the Senate unanimously en route to becoming law. Today, on matters of economic politics, Paul is at least as significant as any of the Republicans he shared the stage with in the 2007 South Carolina debate. And has anyone noticed that he’s a fixture on Fox News?

In February, Paul startled the Republican establishment by handily winning the presidential straw poll at the annual meeting of the Conservative Political Action Conference, a big event for party insiders. As the Republican Party swings into line behind him, it has upended the consensus that has prevailed around fiscal and monetary policy since the Great Depression, pressuring the Fed and blocking any additional stimulus. With the Tea Party gathering force, Paul is at last where he has always wanted to be: in the vanguard of a national movement.

The Tea Party’s Brain - Magazine - The Atlantic

 

[GuyPinestra]

It is called the Tea Party movement and it was started on December 16, 2007…by Ron Paul supporters.

Widely unrecognized in Republican enclaves as the founding event of the movement, the Ron Paul candidacy is inarguably the precursor to the current Tea Party species. Following the trail of its origin provides a fascinating illustration of how a movement, and hence culture, evolves. And it is within these roots that one can find the promise, and impending dilemma, of this young movement as it grows and changes the political landscape.



Read more: The Tea Party and its impending dilemma | The Daily Caller

“We have a lot of time to close in the polls,” Benton said, and he asserted traditional polls “underestimate … Paul’s real support.”


That’s partly because they attempt to query folks who have voted Republican, and Benton asserted that Paul’s base draws heavily from those who have shied away from the party or were not previously politically active.


For instance, he said 24,940 new donors contributed during the Dec. 16 haul.


It was timed for the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, a day meant to resonant with the libertarian sensibilities of his supporters.

Ron Paul becomes $6 million man - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO.com


On December 16, 2007, on the two-hundred-and-thirty-fourth anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, Ron Paul, congressman and Presidential candidate, presided over a nationwide fund-raiser. This was a new tea party, with a new slogan: “Liberty is brewing.” In Boston, hundreds of Paul’s supporters marched to Faneuil Hall. Paul himself appeared in Freeport, Texas, where organizers had prepared barrels for him to dump into the Brazos River. One barrel read “United Nations”; another read “I.R.S.” The campaign raised more than six million dollars in one day, which was a record, and the event prefigured the protests that became common as the Tea Party movement coalesced, in 2009. The movement, with its focus on economic liberty and small government, sometimes seemed like a continuation of Paul’s campaign for the Republican nomination, during which he won a great deal of attention and a modest number of votes. It’s not much of a stretch to call him the “Godfather of the Tea Party,” as his campaign literature does, quoting Fox News. Ron Paul was ahead of his time.

Read more Ron Paul’s Libertarian Roots : The New Yorker

One way to measure the surprising rightward political lurch of the past two years and rise of the Tea Party is to chart the relative position of Ron Paul, who has never flinched from his beliefs. He’s not alone anymore.

To address these grievances, Paul was ready and waiting. He is not the Tea Party’s founder (there isn’t one), or its culturally resonant figure (that’s Sarah Palin), but something more like its brain, its Marx or Madison. He has become its intellectual godfather—and its actual father, in the case of its brightest rising star, his son Rand Paul, Kentucky’s GOP Senate nominee. The Tea Party has overrun the Republican Party everywhere from Alaska to Kentucky to Maine, and a version of Paul’s bill to audit the Federal Reserve just passed the Senate unanimously en route to becoming law. Today, on matters of economic politics, Paul is at least as significant as any of the Republicans he shared the stage with in the 2007 South Carolina debate. And has anyone noticed that he’s a fixture on Fox News?

In February, Paul startled the Republican establishment by handily winning the presidential straw poll at the annual meeting of the Conservative Political Action Conference, a big event for party insiders. As the Republican Party swings into line behind him, it has upended the consensus that has prevailed around fiscal and monetary policy since the Great Depression, pressuring the Fed and blocking any additional stimulus. With the Tea Party gathering force, Paul is at last where he has always wanted to be: in the vanguard of a national movement.

The Tea Party’s Brain - Magazine - The Atlantic

Don't expect teapartysamurai to admit she was wrong, it's very hard for her, you know...

 

[peach174]

Santorum would violate the constitution by bringing the Church into government. He has already stated that he doesnt believe in having a separation between the church and state.

Rick Santorum rejects absolute separation of church and state - Los Angeles Times
Santorum: Separation of Church and State Makes Me "Throw Up" - The Ballot 2012 (usnews.com)

how can you vote for a guy like that?

Never mind that we have Chaplain's that open with prayer, before the business of congress everyday, and have had them since the beginning of our Constitution.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

All right people. It's Gut check time! If you are in a Super Tuesday State like
"pivotal" Ohio (my home state) let us know how you voted.

I voted Rick Santorum
(for Sen) Steve Stivers
(for Congress) Chris Long

And I CAN'T BELIEVE they changed my district. Pat Tiberi has been my Congressman for YEARS. No longer. I guess I got redistricted.

And I wanted to vote in that race too. Burn!

Your area got redistricted and you hadn't a clue until you went to vote?

get off the internet you fuckin' troll!!! spend some time in the real world


and you have the nerve to pretend you know what you are talking about with politics and government?

your are a disgrace to the civil engagement ideals of American democracy

 

[The T]

Santorum would violate the constitution by bringing the Church into government. He has already stated that he doesnt believe in having a separation between the church and state.

Rick Santorum rejects absolute separation of church and state - Los Angeles Times
Santorum: Separation of Church and State Makes Me "Throw Up" - The Ballot 2012 (usnews.com)

how can you vote for a guy like that?

Never mind that we have Chaplain's that open with prayer, before the business of congress everyday, and have had them since the beginning of our Constitution.

Indeed. Shows the argument of 'Separation' as used by the left is bogus.