strollingbones
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as a person who belongs to neither religion....i find both.....oppressive.....again its the lesser of two evils
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A muslim woman is better off going to a Sharia Court than a standard Civil Court.My only concern would be if women were somehow worse off from the Sharia judgement than they would have been that of a standard court - I think that needs to be guarded against.
Because her concerns will be addressed and judged according to Sharia; basically the Quran and Hadith; thus the outcome will be in line with Islam and not some bogus made up Western secular law.
'Among the rulings we find some that advise illegal actions and others that transgress human rights standards as applied by British courts.'
Examples set out in his study include a ruling that no Muslim woman may marry a non-Muslim man unless he converts to Islam and that any children of a woman who does should be taken from her until she marries a Muslim.
Further rulings, according to the report, approve polygamous marriage and enforce a woman's duty to have sex with her husband on his demand.
The report added: 'The fact that so many sharia rulings in Britain relate to cases concerning divorce and custody of children is of particular concern, as women are not equal in sharia law, and sharia contains no specific commitment to the best interests of the child that is fundamental to family law in the UK.
'Under sharia, a male child belongs to the father after the age of seven, regardless of circumstances.'
Read more: Britain has 85 sharia courts: The astonishing spread of the Islamic justice behind closed doors | Mail Online
Pale Rider -
No, I'm not ignorant - I'm just better informed than you are.
I suggest you check how Sharia law is working in the UK, and let me know whay your concerns are then.
In reality there are as many variations as to what Sharia Law means as there are countries which use it, but of the 20 or so countries which do use it, only in 4 does it actually mean the kind of sinsiter, draconian stone age punishments that we would all fight against.
Even in most muslim countries, it is largely used not for ciminal, contract or civil law, but to settle divorces, inheritances etc.
Baloney. Take a look at Britain where 85 Sharia courts are operating.
Among the rulings we find some that advise illegal actions and others that transgress human rights standards as applied by British courts.'
Examples set out in his study include a ruling that no Muslim woman may marry a non-Muslim man unless he converts to Islam and that any children of a woman who does should be taken from her until she marries a Muslim.
Further rulings, according to the report, approve polygamous marriage and enforce a woman's duty to have sex with her husband on his demand.
The report added: 'The fact that so many sharia rulings in Britain relate to cases concerning divorce and custody of children is of particular concern, as women are not equal in sharia law, and sharia contains no specific commitment to the best interests of the child that is fundamental to family law in the UK.
'Under sharia, a male child belongs to the father after the age of seven, regardless of circumstances.'
Read more: Britain has 85 sharia courts: The astonishing spread of the Islamic justice behind closed doors | Mail Online
Is this your version of Equality Sunni Man? How bout you Saigon?
'Among the rulings we find some that advise illegal actions and others that transgress human rights standards as applied by British courts.'
The whole idea of Sharia Courts is to allow muslim people; both men and women, to opt out secular laws and judgements.As I said earlier, it is essential that we maintain our codes of civil rights, and not allow people to opt out of them, even if they choose to.
I think it needs to be clear to everyone working around Sharia courts that womens rights are enshrined within secular law, and Sharia courts need to work within those laws.
The whole idea of Sharia Courts is to allow muslim people; both men and women, to opt out secular laws and judgements.As I said earlier, it is essential that we maintain our codes of civil rights, and not allow people to opt out of them, even if they choose to.
I think it needs to be clear to everyone working around Sharia courts that womens rights are enshrined within secular law, and Sharia courts need to work within those laws.
The whole idea of Sharia Courts is to allow muslim people; both men and women, to opt out secular laws and judgements.As I said earlier, it is essential that we maintain our codes of civil rights, and not allow people to opt out of them, even if they choose to.
I think it needs to be clear to everyone working around Sharia courts that womens rights are enshrined within secular law, and Sharia courts need to work within those laws.
I just love these "my religion is better than yours" threads. Or are we playing the "your religion is worse" game? They are so similar, it's hard to tell...
He's shit out of luck. Just like you are shit out of luck in getting the bible to rule the US.http://www.usmessageboard.com/relig...-when-america-becomes-an-islamic-country.html
We have had this discussion before and been told it just isn't true. That there is no effort by Islam to convert other Countries, that there is no danger that Islam would create a climate where Western Democracies were converted to Sharia law and no longer democratic at all.
I have told you all that Islam preaches that it must take over the planet. That is it's goal. Islam believes that all the world must be Islamic. And they do not believe in separation of Church and State. Islam teaches that Allah must run every thing including the Government.
There are two schools of thought on how to achieve this goal. One is that they must just bide their time and allow their birth rate and monolithic approach to convert those Countries currently not Islamic. The second is that by violence they can achieve more quickly the goal.
Sunni man has admitted to us at last that HIS goal and that of his religion is the overthrow of the democratic Government of the US and replace it with Islamic rule and Sharia law.
I just love these "my religion is better than yours" threads. Or are we playing the "your religion is worse" game? They are so similar, it's hard to tell...
Are you really that ignorant or are you just trolling?
The rights of women are upheld in Sharia Law.That is fine - but disenfranchising women through lousy divorce settlements is not fine.
From my point of view, Sharia courts are welcome here, but only inasmuch as the rights of women are guaranteed to be just as they would in a secular court.
I just love these "my religion is better than yours" threads. Or are we playing the "your religion is worse" game? They are so similar, it's hard to tell...
Are you really that ignorant or are you just trolling?
seems to me....she is simply stating the obvious......
you do realize there are people who adhere to other belief systems that are amazed to watch the pot calling the kettle black