Sugar=Cancer=Heart Disease

[gipper]

And who is doing that?
People have every right to choose what they want to do, as long as that choice does not negatively effect other people. Especially large scale.
Despite your correct assumption that insurance/big pharma collusion with the government is a force in our healthcare cost, extremely poor eating habits dwarfs that factor.
Extremely poor eating habits has a dramatic effect on everyone's healthcare premiums.

So you want to do what? Force people to eat they way you think they should eat?

I have a sense that you think using government force is behind this effort to reduce sugar consumption. Is that right?

You're the one who says the government does nothing about it not me.

You aren't paying attention.

Government is doing much worse than nothing. They are colluding...they are running a racketeering operation the likes of which the Mafia can only dream of.

You didn't leave it at that you said the government wasn't doing anything about it. Don't try to deny it

True government is not doing anything. My point my poor deluded con friend, is we have a HUGE uncontrolled omnipresent central government, who should be looking out for the best interests of the American people. They clearly are not.

Why is it that so many on the right think everything is a conspiracy to promote socialism? WTF!

 

[Skull Pilot]

You have absolutely no right to dictate to anyone what they eat, drink, smoke snort etc

And who is doing that?
People have every right to choose what they want to do, as long as that choice does not negatively effect other people. Especially large scale.
Despite your correct assumption that insurance/big pharma collusion with the government is a force in our healthcare cost, extremely poor eating habits dwarfs that factor.
Extremely poor eating habits has a dramatic effect on everyone's healthcare premiums.

So you want to do what? Force people to eat they way you think they should eat?

Nope.
Never said that.
They should pay more for that food to offset the cost to society for that choice.

You should pay whatever the market decides is the price.

If you don't want to eat it then don't eat it.

If you don't want to pay insurance premiums based on the pool then don't buy insurance and pay your own bills.

The individual always always always trumps society.

 

[Skull Pilot]

So you want to do what? Force people to eat they way you think they should eat?

I have a sense that you think using government force is behind this effort to reduce sugar consumption. Is that right?

You're the one who says the government does nothing about it not me.

You aren't paying attention.

Government is doing much worse than nothing. They are colluding...they are running a racketeering operation the likes of which the Mafia can only dream of.

You didn't leave it at that you said the government wasn't doing anything about it. Don't try to deny it

True government is not doing anything. My point my poor deluded con friend, is we have a HUGE uncontrolled omnipresent central government, who should be looking out for the best interests of the American people. They clearly are not.

Why is it that so many on the right think everything is a conspiracy to promote socialism? WTF!

So you do want the government to tell people what to eat as long as it's the way YOU want people to eat.

It is not the government's job to tell people what to eat.

 

[Bonzi]

I have a sense that you think using government force is behind this effort to reduce sugar consumption. Is that right?

You're the one who says the government does nothing about it not me.

You aren't paying attention.

Government is doing much worse than nothing. They are colluding...they are running a racketeering operation the likes of which the Mafia can only dream of.

You didn't leave it at that you said the government wasn't doing anything about it. Don't try to deny it

True government is not doing anything. My point my poor deluded con friend, is we have a HUGE uncontrolled omnipresent central government, who should be looking out for the best interests of the American people. They clearly are not.

Why is it that so many on the right think everything is a conspiracy to promote socialism? WTF!

So you do want the government to tell people what to eat as long as it's the way YOU want people to eat.

It is not the government's job to tell people what to eat.

No but they can make them pay a price

 

[Skull Pilot]

You're the one who says the government does nothing about it not me.

You aren't paying attention.

Government is doing much worse than nothing. They are colluding...they are running a racketeering operation the likes of which the Mafia can only dream of.

You didn't leave it at that you said the government wasn't doing anything about it. Don't try to deny it

True government is not doing anything. My point my poor deluded con friend, is we have a HUGE uncontrolled omnipresent central government, who should be looking out for the best interests of the American people. They clearly are not.

Why is it that so many on the right think everything is a conspiracy to promote socialism? WTF!

So you do want the government to tell people what to eat as long as it's the way YOU want people to eat.

It is not the government's job to tell people what to eat.

No but they can make them pay a price

Why do you want the government to micromanage the lives of the people?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

You have absolutely no right to dictate to anyone what they eat, drink, smoke snort etc

And who is doing that?
People have every right to choose what they want to do, as long as that choice does not negatively effect other people. Especially large scale.
Despite your correct assumption that insurance/big pharma collusion with the government is a force in our healthcare cost, extremely poor eating habits dwarfs that factor.
Extremely poor eating habits has a dramatic effect on everyone's healthcare premiums.

So you want to do what? Force people to eat they way you think they should eat?

Nope.
Never said that.
They should pay more for that food to offset the cost to society for that choice.

You should pay whatever the market decides is the price.

If you don't want to eat it then don't eat it.

If you don't want to pay insurance premiums based on the pool then don't buy insurance and pay your own bills.

The individual always always always trumps society.

Ahh...you could have saved us a lot of time if you would have just said you were a libertarian from the get go. All I have to say is that "Libertarian'ism" doesn't belong in a modern society because a modern society cannot exist if living by libertarian rule. We would still be living in a 3rd world country.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You have absolutely no right to dictate to anyone what they eat, drink, smoke snort etc

And who is doing that?
People have every right to choose what they want to do, as long as that choice does not negatively effect other people. Especially large scale.
Despite your correct assumption that insurance/big pharma collusion with the government is a force in our healthcare cost, extremely poor eating habits dwarfs that factor.
Extremely poor eating habits has a dramatic effect on everyone's healthcare premiums.

So you want to do what? Force people to eat they way you think they should eat?

Nope.
Never said that.
They should pay more for that food to offset the cost to society for that choice.

You should pay whatever the market decides is the price.

If you don't want to eat it then don't eat it.

If you don't want to pay insurance premiums based on the pool then don't buy insurance and pay your own bills.

The individual always always always trumps society.

Ahh...you could have saved us a lot of time if you would have just said you were a libertarian from the get go. All I have to say is that "Libertarian'ism" doesn't belong in a modern society because a modern society cannot exist if living by libertarian rule. We would still be living in a 3rd world country.

I'm not a libertarian at all.

I belong to no political party nor do I subscribe to any political dogma.

What other people eat, drink, smoke snort or shove up their asses is in no way any of your business.

You people like to use "society" as an excuse for your pathological need to control other people.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

And who is doing that?
People have every right to choose what they want to do, as long as that choice does not negatively effect other people. Especially large scale.
Despite your correct assumption that insurance/big pharma collusion with the government is a force in our healthcare cost, extremely poor eating habits dwarfs that factor.
Extremely poor eating habits has a dramatic effect on everyone's healthcare premiums.

So you want to do what? Force people to eat they way you think they should eat?

Nope.
Never said that.
They should pay more for that food to offset the cost to society for that choice.

You should pay whatever the market decides is the price.

If you don't want to eat it then don't eat it.

If you don't want to pay insurance premiums based on the pool then don't buy insurance and pay your own bills.

The individual always always always trumps society.

Ahh...you could have saved us a lot of time if you would have just said you were a libertarian from the get go. All I have to say is that "Libertarian'ism" doesn't belong in a modern society because a modern society cannot exist if living by libertarian rule. We would still be living in a 3rd world country.

I'm not a libertarian at all.

I belong to no political party nor do I subscribe to any political dogma.

What other people eat, drink, smoke snort or shove up their asses is in no way any of your business.

You people like to use "society" as an excuse for your pathological need to control other people.

Haha...not quite. I have no need to control anyone. I only want people to have to pay for the choices they make. They can choose whatever they want, let them smoke and snort and eat two cups of sugar a day if that is what they want - but do not expect "society" to have to help you pay for your bad choices.
I read an article a few years ago, and saw the same cost percentage in a documentary that stated that 67% of ALL healthcare cost are related to poor eating habits. Now...do you want EVERYONE to pay for those cost, even those who make wise choices??
Not me.

 

[Skull Pilot]

So you want to do what? Force people to eat they way you think they should eat?

Nope.
Never said that.
They should pay more for that food to offset the cost to society for that choice.

You should pay whatever the market decides is the price.

If you don't want to eat it then don't eat it.

If you don't want to pay insurance premiums based on the pool then don't buy insurance and pay your own bills.

The individual always always always trumps society.

Ahh...you could have saved us a lot of time if you would have just said you were a libertarian from the get go. All I have to say is that "Libertarian'ism" doesn't belong in a modern society because a modern society cannot exist if living by libertarian rule. We would still be living in a 3rd world country.

I'm not a libertarian at all.

I belong to no political party nor do I subscribe to any political dogma.

What other people eat, drink, smoke snort or shove up their asses is in no way any of your business.

You people like to use "society" as an excuse for your pathological need to control other people.

Haha...not quite. I have no need to control anyone. I only want people to have to pay for the choices they make. They can choose whatever they want, let them smoke and snort and eat two cups of sugar a day if that is what they want - but do not expect "society" to have to help you pay for your bad choices.
I read an article a few years ago, and saw the same cost percentage in a documentary that stated that 67% of ALL healthcare cost are related to poor eating habits. Now...do you want EVERYONE to pay for those cost, even those who make wise choices??
Not me.

Get rid of the mandate to buy health insurance. That's what is making your costs rise.

Force the medical industry to be transparent with the costs of medical care. The removal of health care from market forces costs you far more than any fat guy.

And I'll wager that the whole preexisting condition waivers cost you plenty more a well.

You think that health care is to be provided by society. I don't.

So no I will never agree that you have the right to tell other people what personal choices to make regardless of the perceived cost to "society" just like I will never agree that it's the government's job to force people to buy any product or to penalize people with taxes for buying any product or to reward certain purchases with tax breaks.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Nope.
Never said that.
They should pay more for that food to offset the cost to society for that choice.

You should pay whatever the market decides is the price.

If you don't want to eat it then don't eat it.

If you don't want to pay insurance premiums based on the pool then don't buy insurance and pay your own bills.

The individual always always always trumps society.

Ahh...you could have saved us a lot of time if you would have just said you were a libertarian from the get go. All I have to say is that "Libertarian'ism" doesn't belong in a modern society because a modern society cannot exist if living by libertarian rule. We would still be living in a 3rd world country.

I'm not a libertarian at all.

I belong to no political party nor do I subscribe to any political dogma.

What other people eat, drink, smoke snort or shove up their asses is in no way any of your business.

You people like to use "society" as an excuse for your pathological need to control other people.

Haha...not quite. I have no need to control anyone. I only want people to have to pay for the choices they make. They can choose whatever they want, let them smoke and snort and eat two cups of sugar a day if that is what they want - but do not expect "society" to have to help you pay for your bad choices.
I read an article a few years ago, and saw the same cost percentage in a documentary that stated that 67% of ALL healthcare cost are related to poor eating habits. Now...do you want EVERYONE to pay for those cost, even those who make wise choices??
Not me.

Get rid of the mandate to buy health insurance. That's what is making your costs rise.

Force the medical industry to be transparent with the costs of medical care. The removal of health care from market forces costs you far more than any fat guy.

And I'll wager that the whole preexisting condition waivers cost you plenty more a well.

You think that health care is to be provided by society. I don't.

So no I will never agree that you have the right to tell other people what personal choices to make regardless of the perceived cost to "society" just like I will never agree that it's the government's job to force people to buy any product or to penalize people with taxes for buying any product or to reward certain purchases with tax breaks.

I am going to agree to disagree. We are not going to change each others minds.
Only thing I say, is that I do not want the government to mandate choices...however I want people who make bad choices, in many areas of life, to not expect everyone else to cover the cost of those choices.
The government cannot force you to get a job. But if you chose not to work, then don't expect the government (read society) to finance your life.
Same thing.

 

[Montrovant]

switch to honey

tastes better and good for you

I don't think so. You might try Stevia.

(2) Increases Blood Sugar Level In Our Body
Honey is not so good for people suffering from diabetics because of the high amount of sugar present in it. Honey doesn’t contain any fiber which means Consuming honey can increase the blood sugar level of a person because the sugar present in honey get absorbed by our blood more quickly in comparison to sugar with fiber. So, if you have diabetes or if you are suffering from low blood sugar condition then you should be cautious while eating honey because the sweetness and chemical composition of honey are same as table sugar which means one should follow the same precaution while consuming honey as if he is consuming regular sugar. The maximum recommended dosage of all sugars ( whether it is from sugar, honey or processed foods) is ten tablespoons per day which mean you should watch your sugar and make sure that you are not getting more than ten tablespoons of sugar per day ( from all sources combined).
10 Risks And Side Effects Of Eating Too Much Honey - Good Health All

stevia is a chemical and if you are a diabetic, you already know what to be careful with.

Why does it matter if Stevia is a chemical?

 

[Montrovant]

switch to honey

tastes better and good for you

I don't think so. You might try Stevia.

(2) Increases Blood Sugar Level In Our Body
Honey is not so good for people suffering from diabetics because of the high amount of sugar present in it. Honey doesn’t contain any fiber which means Consuming honey can increase the blood sugar level of a person because the sugar present in honey get absorbed by our blood more quickly in comparison to sugar with fiber. So, if you have diabetes or if you are suffering from low blood sugar condition then you should be cautious while eating honey because the sweetness and chemical composition of honey are same as table sugar which means one should follow the same precaution while consuming honey as if he is consuming regular sugar. The maximum recommended dosage of all sugars ( whether it is from sugar, honey or processed foods) is ten tablespoons per day which mean you should watch your sugar and make sure that you are not getting more than ten tablespoons of sugar per day ( from all sources combined).
10 Risks And Side Effects Of Eating Too Much Honey - Good Health All

stevia is a chemical and if you are a diabetic, you already know what to be careful with.

No Stevia is not a chemical. It is a natural substance.

Chemicals can be natural. There are natural and man-made chemicals.

 

[gipper]

switch to honey

tastes better and good for you

I don't think so. You might try Stevia.

(2) Increases Blood Sugar Level In Our Body
Honey is not so good for people suffering from diabetics because of the high amount of sugar present in it. Honey doesn’t contain any fiber which means Consuming honey can increase the blood sugar level of a person because the sugar present in honey get absorbed by our blood more quickly in comparison to sugar with fiber. So, if you have diabetes or if you are suffering from low blood sugar condition then you should be cautious while eating honey because the sweetness and chemical composition of honey are same as table sugar which means one should follow the same precaution while consuming honey as if he is consuming regular sugar. The maximum recommended dosage of all sugars ( whether it is from sugar, honey or processed foods) is ten tablespoons per day which mean you should watch your sugar and make sure that you are not getting more than ten tablespoons of sugar per day ( from all sources combined).
10 Risks And Side Effects Of Eating Too Much Honey - Good Health All

stevia is a chemical and if you are a diabetic, you already know what to be careful with.

No Stevia is not a chemical. It is a natural substance.

Chemicals can be natural. There are natural and man-made chemicals.

So?

 

[Two Thumbs]

switch to honey

tastes better and good for you

I don't think so. You might try Stevia.

(2) Increases Blood Sugar Level In Our Body
Honey is not so good for people suffering from diabetics because of the high amount of sugar present in it. Honey doesn’t contain any fiber which means Consuming honey can increase the blood sugar level of a person because the sugar present in honey get absorbed by our blood more quickly in comparison to sugar with fiber. So, if you have diabetes or if you are suffering from low blood sugar condition then you should be cautious while eating honey because the sweetness and chemical composition of honey are same as table sugar which means one should follow the same precaution while consuming honey as if he is consuming regular sugar. The maximum recommended dosage of all sugars ( whether it is from sugar, honey or processed foods) is ten tablespoons per day which mean you should watch your sugar and make sure that you are not getting more than ten tablespoons of sugar per day ( from all sources combined).
10 Risks And Side Effects Of Eating Too Much Honey - Good Health All

stevia is a chemical and if you are a diabetic, you already know what to be careful with.

Why does it matter if Stevia is a chemical?

chemicals tend to not be recognized as food and can't be properly processed in the body.

 

[Montrovant]

switch to honey

tastes better and good for you

I don't think so. You might try Stevia.

(2) Increases Blood Sugar Level In Our Body
Honey is not so good for people suffering from diabetics because of the high amount of sugar present in it. Honey doesn’t contain any fiber which means Consuming honey can increase the blood sugar level of a person because the sugar present in honey get absorbed by our blood more quickly in comparison to sugar with fiber. So, if you have diabetes or if you are suffering from low blood sugar condition then you should be cautious while eating honey because the sweetness and chemical composition of honey are same as table sugar which means one should follow the same precaution while consuming honey as if he is consuming regular sugar. The maximum recommended dosage of all sugars ( whether it is from sugar, honey or processed foods) is ten tablespoons per day which mean you should watch your sugar and make sure that you are not getting more than ten tablespoons of sugar per day ( from all sources combined).
10 Risks And Side Effects Of Eating Too Much Honey - Good Health All

stevia is a chemical and if you are a diabetic, you already know what to be careful with.

No Stevia is not a chemical. It is a natural substance.

Chemicals can be natural. There are natural and man-made chemicals.

So?

So you indicated that Stevia being a natural substance meant it was not a chemical. I'm just pointing out that being natural doesn't mean it is not a chemical.

 

[gipper]

I don't think so. You might try Stevia.

(2) Increases Blood Sugar Level In Our Body
Honey is not so good for people suffering from diabetics because of the high amount of sugar present in it. Honey doesn’t contain any fiber which means Consuming honey can increase the blood sugar level of a person because the sugar present in honey get absorbed by our blood more quickly in comparison to sugar with fiber. So, if you have diabetes or if you are suffering from low blood sugar condition then you should be cautious while eating honey because the sweetness and chemical composition of honey are same as table sugar which means one should follow the same precaution while consuming honey as if he is consuming regular sugar. The maximum recommended dosage of all sugars ( whether it is from sugar, honey or processed foods) is ten tablespoons per day which mean you should watch your sugar and make sure that you are not getting more than ten tablespoons of sugar per day ( from all sources combined).
10 Risks And Side Effects Of Eating Too Much Honey - Good Health All

stevia is a chemical and if you are a diabetic, you already know what to be careful with.

No Stevia is not a chemical. It is a natural substance.

Chemicals can be natural. There are natural and man-made chemicals.

So?

So you indicated that Stevia being a natural substance meant it was not a chemical. I'm just pointing out that being natural doesn't mean it is not a chemical.

True enough. Stevia is not a man-made chemical.

 

[Montrovant]

switch to honey

tastes better and good for you

I don't think so. You might try Stevia.

(2) Increases Blood Sugar Level In Our Body
Honey is not so good for people suffering from diabetics because of the high amount of sugar present in it. Honey doesn’t contain any fiber which means Consuming honey can increase the blood sugar level of a person because the sugar present in honey get absorbed by our blood more quickly in comparison to sugar with fiber. So, if you have diabetes or if you are suffering from low blood sugar condition then you should be cautious while eating honey because the sweetness and chemical composition of honey are same as table sugar which means one should follow the same precaution while consuming honey as if he is consuming regular sugar. The maximum recommended dosage of all sugars ( whether it is from sugar, honey or processed foods) is ten tablespoons per day which mean you should watch your sugar and make sure that you are not getting more than ten tablespoons of sugar per day ( from all sources combined).
10 Risks And Side Effects Of Eating Too Much Honey - Good Health All

stevia is a chemical and if you are a diabetic, you already know what to be careful with.

Why does it matter if Stevia is a chemical?

chemicals tend to not be recognized as food and can't be properly processed in the body.

Chemicals can't be properly processed in the body? What gives you that idea?

I can only guess that you mean to say that man-made chemicals cannot be properly processed in the body. Even that is untrue, but at least it would leave out those chemicals which are part of and required by the body.

Technically, any matter is made up of chemicals.