Success with stem cells

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    There have been numerous medical success's using adult stem cells for treatment.
    Can anybody provide a link to show successful medical treatments that used embryonic or fetal stem cells?
    I'm starting to think science should focus on what works.
     
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    Science, like anything else, should pay its own freight.

    If stem cells, embryonic or otherwise, are the supposed miracle cure for anything and everything, then investors who smell a profit will provide the proper capitalization for research.
     
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    these are universitet that d o stem cell researc h for diabetes and othre disease.

    Center for Stem Cell & Regenerative Medicine

    CSCRM - Center for Stem Cell & Regenerative Medicine

    universitet o f Toronto as Lopetta she quote

    Toronto Stem Cell Initiative- Home

    fro m m y thread an USMB

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/health-and-lifestyle/66327-type-1-diabetes.html

     
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    Thanks, but none of those links show specific medical treatment success's involving fetal or embryonic stem cells.
     
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    i g o to clevelend clinic few years befojr with m y family.we speak with Dr Jansen and Dr Penn abaout this research.Lopetta she know the person i n Universitet o f Toronto s o i will ask her.
     
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    Okay ... laughable at best. Adult or embryonic isn't the issue, a stem cell is still a stem cell, the difference is the quantity they can gain. Making stem cells from adults is very costly and extremely difficult, but a fetus has a lot that are already grown. Honestly, if they already died why waste their non-lives and just toss them in the garbage when you can at least make it mean something? Even pro-lifers should be for this since it give some meaning to the wasted life.
     
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    You can always tell where the REAL potential is by where the private venture capital is. If a line of research MUST have government funding to even exist, it's a waste of time.
     
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    That's a fairly standard fallacy of perfect competition. As I have mentioned time and time again, even orthodox economists reject the premise of perfect competition, as evidenced by the development of monopsony theory. Unsurprisingly, the potential for utility maximization lies apart from the potential for profit maximization.
     
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    No competition is ever perfect and perfection is not even an option.

    Unless, of course, if you're politicians and bureaucrats, who thrive on contrived and needless division and waste, and need the illusion of "perfection" to keep your phony baloney job.
     
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    ...Hence no market is ever legitimately free. But why do I doubt that you will reach this conclusion with me?
     

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