Study: Free birth control leads to fewer abortions; Romney wants to cut access.

[koshergrl]

No, I just realize that good schools, good roads, clean water are more important than rich douchebags having dancing horsies...

• Fact: We spend more on education now than any point in US history, and we have worse results (so much for your theory on that - like all of your other inaccurate bullshit theories)
• Fact: We've always had clean water (more JoeB. bullshit)
• Fact: we've always had "good roads" (more JoeB. bullshit)

I just realized, the "B" in JoeB. stands for bullshit. Joe Bullshit. He's FULL of it!

Wow, you've broke the horse-shit-o-meter on that one.

No

Nope, he's right.

 

[P@triot]

No, I just realize that good schools, good roads, clean water are more important than rich douchebags having dancing horsies...

• Fact: We spend more on education now than any point in US history, and we have worse results (so much for your theory on that - like all of your other inaccurate bullshit theories)
  
  
• Fact: We've always had clean water (more JoeB. bullshit)
  
  
• Fact: we've always had "good roads" (more JoeB. bullshit)

I just realized, the "B" in JoeB. stands for bullshit. Joe Bullshit. He's FULL of it!

0-3 on your "facts"

Typical for this poster

100% accurate - which is why you can't dispute it with any facts, data, or other information. We spend more on education now than any point in history.

 

[candycorn]

You're not confused, you're a liar. You've had your nose rubbed in the fact that crime, ignorance, child abuse, abortion numbers and out of wedlock births have increased exponentially since the advent of legalized abortion.

Yet you continue to trot out the lie that abortion reduces these things.

Why is this?

Oh, I know. Because you're an abortion acolyte, committed to a culture of death.

Well, I was speaking about contraception reducing he need for abortion--hence you don't get pregnant and there is no need for abortion. Perhaps you can look up the definitions of abortion and contraception and come on back when you've enhanced your poor education. Also learn to quote whom you are responding to.

 

[candycorn]

• Fact: We spend more on education now than any point in US history, and we have worse results (so much for your theory on that - like all of your other inaccurate bullshit theories)
• Fact: We've always had clean water (more JoeB. bullshit)
• Fact: we've always had "good roads" (more JoeB. bullshit)

I just realized, the "B" in JoeB. stands for bullshit. Joe Bullshit. He's FULL of it!

Wow, you've broke the horse-shit-o-meter on that one.

No

Nope, he's right.

Go the east river and take a drink. Dare you.
Go to the Cleveland River (it caught on fire once) and drink. Double dog dare you.

 

[candycorn]

No, guy, it means you're being stupid.

The Rich aren't your friends, and they don't have the best interest of the country at heart.

Oh, but Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid have you and "the best interest of the country at heart"?!?!

Holy shit are you the dumbest mother fucker ever

Hey everybody - JoeB. here thinks that Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid are his "friends"

Big font alert--he's losing he argument.

 

[candycorn]

Logical fallacy. There is no link between paying for one's own birth control and criminal incidence.

There is a link between poverty and criminal incidence and, to be sure, a link between unwanted/too many pregnancies and poverty. Surely you can think beyond the next link in the chain...right?

The link between unwanted pregnancy and crime is the same, a lack of personal responsibility. It's the idea that human beings are incapable of making rational decisions. They are impelled by something beyond their control. I MUST steal. I MUST have sex. To suggest otherwise is to say that dogs are smarter and more trainable than human beings are.

So you deny there is a link between crime and poverty?

 

[koshergrl]

You're not confused, you're a liar. You've had your nose rubbed in the fact that crime, ignorance, child abuse, abortion numbers and out of wedlock births have increased exponentially since the advent of legalized abortion.

Yet you continue to trot out the lie that abortion reduces these things.

Why is this?

Oh, I know. Because you're an abortion acolyte, committed to a culture of death.

Well, I was speaking about contraception reducing he need for abortion--hence you don't get pregnant and there is no need for abortion. Perhaps you can look up the definitions of abortion and contraception and come on back when you've enhanced your poor education. Also learn to quote whom you are responding to.

I was talking to liewinger.

But it works for contraception as well. The same things have increased lockstep with the availability of free contraception. Including abortion. One isolated little study by people who are motivated by a particular ideology doesn't prove anything worth knowing.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

No, I just realize that good schools, good roads, clean water are more important than rich douchebags having dancing horsies...

• Fact: We spend more on education now than any point in US history, and we have worse results (so much for your theory on that - like all of your other inaccurate bullshit theories)
  
  
• Fact: We've always had clean water (more JoeB. bullshit)
  
  
• Fact: we've always had "good roads" (more JoeB. bullshit)

I just realized, the "B" in JoeB. stands for bullshit. Joe Bullshit. He's FULL of it!

Review the history of 20th Century Louisiana before the New Deal to discover why you're wrong.

 

[P@triot]

Point out a case where someone has become rich without someone helping them...

I just did - his name was Chris Gardner and they made a movie about him. But like all other facts, you are completely ignorant of him, his situation, and the millions of Americans who have accumulated wealth all by themselves.

It happens every single day in America. It happens every single week in America. It happens every single month in America. It happens every single year in America.

You're problem is, your just lazy. And you're a fucking baby throwing a tantrum over what you don't have because you're not willing to earn it.

He was hired by Dean Witter. Dean witter took a chance on him; I believe that was Joe's point.

Actually, they didn't take a "chance" on him. He proved to them BEFORE they hired him that he was worthy through an unpaid intern position which he EARNED through a very rigorous screening process against other very worthy candidates.

Furthermore, every time I prove JoeB. wrong he "moves the goalposts" and/or changes the subject. The entire point is - Gardner did it without government.

If someone in his life helped him or a private company "helped" him, who gives a fuck? That just further proves my point that the private sector and charity can handle all of society's issues. He defeats his own arguments every time he posts something

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You're not confused, you're a liar. You've had your nose rubbed in the fact that crime, ignorance, child abuse, abortion numbers and out of wedlock births have increased exponentially since the advent of legalized abortion.

Yet you continue to trot out the lie that abortion reduces these things.

Why is this?

Oh, I know. Because you're an abortion acolyte, committed to a culture of death.

Which means we as a society have work to do to address those issues; and the solution to those problems is not banning abortion.

 

[P@triot]

No, guy, it means you're being stupid.

The Rich aren't your friends, and they don't have the best interest of the country at heart.

Oh, but Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid have you and "the best interest of the country at heart"?!?!

Holy shit are you the dumbest mother fucker ever

Hey everybody - JoeB. here thinks that Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid are his "friends"

Big font alert--he's losing he argument.

Really? So you think Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid care about you? Seriously?

The big font is just to ensure nobody misses JoeB.'s ultra ignorant comment. It's imperative everyone see what a stupid fuck he is

 

[candycorn]

You're not confused, you're a liar. You've had your nose rubbed in the fact that crime, ignorance, child abuse, abortion numbers and out of wedlock births have increased exponentially since the advent of legalized abortion.

Yet you continue to trot out the lie that abortion reduces these things.

Why is this?

Oh, I know. Because you're an abortion acolyte, committed to a culture of death.

Well, I was speaking about contraception reducing he need for abortion--hence you don't get pregnant and there is no need for abortion. Perhaps you can look up the definitions of abortion and contraception and come on back when you've enhanced your poor education. Also learn to quote whom you are responding to.

I was talking to liewinger.

But it works for contraception as well. The same things have increased lockstep with the availability of free contraception. Including abortion. One isolated little study by people who are motivated by a particular ideology doesn't prove anything worth knowing.

Wonderful things happen when you quote the post you're responding to.

Nine-thousand women in a Red state? Hardly a little study and hardly a guarantee of ideological leanings. But you are right; studies prove nothing--never have never will.

The data suggests that when you do not conceive a baby; you are not spending more money on that baby in the form of formula, medical, diapers, etc... When you're not spending that money, you can pay off debt, pay for education, and elevate out of poverty. And, also, when you're not pregnant, your need to have an abortion drops by an estimated 100%.

 

[candycorn]

Oh, but Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid have you and "the best interest of the country at heart"?!?!

Holy shit are you the dumbest mother fucker ever

Hey everybody - JoeB. here thinks that Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid are his "friends"

Big font alert--he's losing he argument.

Really? So you think Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid care about you? Seriously?

The big font is just to ensure nobody misses JoeB.'s ultra ignorant comment. It's imperative everyone see what a stupid fuck he is

As much as Mitt Romney does. Or Rick Perry; John Kerry, Tom Foley, John McCain, etc... or any federal level politician. Thats for sure. My congressman and I correspond intermittently and he recognized me at a town hall once. I was floored by that.

If you think Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, John Boehner or Mitt Romney care one shit about you, you're delusional in the extreme.

 

[Katzndogz]

You're not confused, you're a liar. You've had your nose rubbed in the fact that crime, ignorance, child abuse, abortion numbers and out of wedlock births have increased exponentially since the advent of legalized abortion.

Yet you continue to trot out the lie that abortion reduces these things.

Why is this?

Oh, I know. Because you're an abortion acolyte, committed to a culture of death.

Well, I was speaking about contraception reducing he need for abortion--hence you don't get pregnant and there is no need for abortion. Perhaps you can look up the definitions of abortion and contraception and come on back when you've enhanced your poor education. Also learn to quote whom you are responding to.

Making sound decisions reduces the need for both birth control and abortions. The alternative is to accept that human beings aren't as smart as the average housepet and start neutering everyone except for a few breeders.

 

[candycorn]

I just did - his name was Chris Gardner and they made a movie about him. But like all other facts, you are completely ignorant of him, his situation, and the millions of Americans who have accumulated wealth all by themselves.

It happens every single day in America. It happens every single week in America. It happens every single month in America. It happens every single year in America.

You're problem is, your just lazy. And you're a fucking baby throwing a tantrum over what you don't have because you're not willing to earn it.

He was hired by Dean Witter. Dean witter took a chance on him; I believe that was Joe's point.

Actually, they didn't take a "chance" on him. He proved to them BEFORE they hired him that he was worthy through an unpaid intern position which he EARNED through a very rigorous screening process against other very worthy candidates.

Furthermore, every time I prove JoeB. wrong he "moves the goalposts" and/or changes the subject. The entire point is - Gardner did it without government.

If someone in his life helped him or a private company "helped" him, who gives a fuck? That just further proves my point that the private sector and charity can handle all of society's issues. He defeats his own arguments every time he posts something

Yes but Joe's point (I think) was that the internship was provided by another entity. All of us are warmed by the fires started by others. You, me, everyone.

 

[candycorn]

You are paying for your birth control if it's on your prescription drug plan and you pay the premiums or if it's part of your benefits package. Right?

Nope.

Ahh, so if are getting amoxicillin or coumadin, lipitor, suprax, via your PDP; you're not paying for them?

Well? Are you paying for them or not?

 

[Katzndogz]

Have you ever been an intern? Interns are not paid. They work for free hoping to prove themselves and get hired.

 

[P@triot]

JoeB. "rationale":

"Republicans are greedy"

"Republicans are stupid because they vote against their own economic interest"

So lets break this down:

If one votes against their "own economic interest" then they are in fact being selfless.

Furthermore, if JoeB. believes it is "stupid" to vote against your own economic interest, then clearly he votes for his own economic interests (after all, why would anyone do something they "know" to be stupid??!). Which means he is one greedy little fuck, voting for his own economic interests while falsely calling others "greedy" (this is what's known as projecting").

This is how dumb one has to be to believe in communism/socialism/marxism like JoeB. does. How profoundly stupid does one have to be to contradict their own argument like this???

 

[candycorn]

You're not confused, you're a liar. You've had your nose rubbed in the fact that crime, ignorance, child abuse, abortion numbers and out of wedlock births have increased exponentially since the advent of legalized abortion.

Yet you continue to trot out the lie that abortion reduces these things.

Why is this?

Oh, I know. Because you're an abortion acolyte, committed to a culture of death.

Well, I was speaking about contraception reducing he need for abortion--hence you don't get pregnant and there is no need for abortion. Perhaps you can look up the definitions of abortion and contraception and come on back when you've enhanced your poor education. Also learn to quote whom you are responding to.

Making sound decisions reduces the need for both birth control and abortions. The alternative is to accept that human beings aren't as smart as the average housepet and start neutering everyone except for a few breeders.

Gee, and if iced tea came out of the faucet and Cardinals tickets grew on trees, the world would be a much better place too wouldn't it?

I'm not certain what you get out of going to the animal comparison....again. But the fact of the matter is that humans do not always make decisions based on rational data. The most repugnant figures are stylized by television and garner the highest ratings. Honey-Boo-Boo had higher ratings (if I recall correctly) than either acceptance speech by the presidential candidates.

Shouting at the rain to stop falling is fine..."make sound choices and that reduces the need for birth control"...duh. But when those choices aren't made; who pays. The taxpayers do. You can pay a little now (eliminating Title X funding as Mitt wants to do will save 300M a year--it costs each citizen a dollar PER YEAR) or pay a lot later in the terms of everything from public assistance to schools and yes, to prisons.

 

[koshergrl]

Big font alert--he's losing he argument.

Really? So you think Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid care about you? Seriously?

The big font is just to ensure nobody misses JoeB.'s ultra ignorant comment. It's imperative everyone see what a stupid fuck he is

As much as Mitt Romney does. Or Rick Perry; John Kerry, Tom Foley, John McCain, etc... or any federal level politician. Thats for sure. My congressman and I correspond intermittently and he recognized me at a town hall once. I was floored by that.

If you think Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, John Boehner or Mitt Romney care one shit about you, you're delusional in the extreme.

Yes, there are various groupies who endorse Obama because he hugged them at fundraisers.

They think this proves he *really cares*.

They're idiots, too.