Starting to lean left

[Ravi]

I have decided I like the lefty ideology. I just turned in my 2 weeks notice at work. Decided it would be easier if I just sat on my ass and make just as much if not more in benifits. "Share the wealth" has started getting my juices going. Just because they are successfull does not mean they shouldnt pay more in taxes, right? Just because we are spending ourselves into oblivion does not mean we should stop spending right? Fuck spending cuts! Thats for the birds!

You are nothing short of a complete idiot and an idiological RW hack. The poor and middle class did not put us into the economic hole we are just crawling out of. The poor and middle class did not take our military into two full blown fighting wars accoss the globe. The poor and middle class did not game the entire investment sectors of almost every viable country in the free world with our poisonous time bomb "derivatives". The poor and middle class did not send our best manufacturing jobs overseas.

Screw you.

Hey, if you can't blame the poor you have to blame the Latins or the Negroes. This is Republicanism trying to be PC.

 

[Ravi]

With all that edumacation, it's a shame you didn't learn 8th grade punctuation and syntax.

You can get tried second at the grammar Nazi Nuremberg. Harley is up first. I have the FREEDOM to post any way I damn well please...you ain't my Momma.

Regards from Rosie

Uh-huh...It's always those who claim to be the most edumacated that exhibit it the least....Wonder why that is.

Oh, and it pleases me to no end that a nitwit like you isn't my momma...Might not have ever learned the difference between real rain and someone pissing on my foot.

You never do pretend to be edumacated, I'll give you that.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Because we are concerned with the respect of our peers and not that of those who are inferior. See Sallow's reply above.

Regards from Rosie

Who the fuck is inferior to del?

Seriously?

The Dingo wants to know!

 

[Sallow]

Much as you'd like to not admit so, that's demanding things for yourself.

Altruism is a lie.

Altruism is a "lie" for conservatives, Ayn Rand Acolytes and Anarchists.

Everyone else knows it exists.

Only if you're ignorant to values hierarchies...Which you obviously are.

You guys keep trying to convince yourselves that selfishness and unbridled greed is the norm.

It ain't.

Societies filled with people that just think of "number one" do not last for very long.

 

[Oddball]

Altruism is a "lie" for conservatives, Ayn Rand Acolytes and Anarchists.

Everyone else knows it exists.

Only if you're ignorant to values hierarchies...Which you obviously are.

You guys keep trying to convince yourselves that selfishness and unbridled greed is the norm.

It ain't.

Societies filled with people that just think of "number one" do not last for very long.

Neither I nor Rand said unbridled selfishness and greed would be the norm...You just made that straw man up out of your paranoid little mind.

Sorry to have to break it to you, but everybody thinks of number one first...That's how values systems and hierarchies work.

 

[Koios]

Only if you're ignorant to values hierarchies...Which you obviously are.

You guys keep trying to convince yourselves that selfishness and unbridled greed is the norm.

It ain't.

Societies filled with people that just think of "number one" do not last for very long.

Neither I nor Rand said unbridled selfishness and greed would be the norm...You just made that straw man up out of your paranoid little mind.

Sorry to have to break it to you, but everybody thinks of number one first...That's how values systems and hierarchies work.

Jesus. Niether misquoting, incorrectly attributing, nor misinterpretting is a "strawman," the righties' new fave retort, which makes me think it popular on Fox News or the Limbaugh radio show. I merely speculate.

Strawman is making up the person, from thin air. Ergo, made of straw, metaphorically speaking. Example:

Some say (no one did, actually) Motherhood, Baseball, Hotdogs and Apple Pie are totally Communist!!! But they (folks made of straw, since they don't really exist) are wrong, and I'm here to tell you they're as American as me!!!

 

[RosieS]

Only if you're ignorant to values hierarchies...Which you obviously are.

You guys keep trying to convince yourselves that selfishness and unbridled greed is the norm.

It ain't.

Societies filled with people that just think of "number one" do not last for very long.

Neither I nor Rand said unbridled selfishness and greed would be the norm...You just made that straw man up out of your paranoid little mind.

Sorry to have to break it to you, but everybody thinks of number one first...That's how values systems and hierarchies work.

Well guess what. Occupy Wall Street was all about defying your value systems and tearing
down your hierarchies. Guess there is a semi-organized disproof of your
overgeneralization.

Regards from Rosie

 

[Oddball]

You guys keep trying to convince yourselves that selfishness and unbridled greed is the norm.

It ain't.

Societies filled with people that just think of "number one" do not last for very long.

Neither I nor Rand said unbridled selfishness and greed would be the norm...You just made that straw man up out of your paranoid little mind.

Sorry to have to break it to you, but everybody thinks of number one first...That's how values systems and hierarchies work.

Well guess what. Occupy Wall Street was all about defying your value systems and tearing
down your hierarchies. Guess there is a semmii-organized disproof of your
overgeneralization.

Regards from Rosie

No, OWS was about a bunch of envious, covetous, loutish little know-nothing children, staging a months-long squat-in on private property....Doesn't get more self-indulgent and me-first than that.

 

[Dreamy]

Fascism and capitalism are inseparable. Fascism promotes the division of people often using race, gender and religion. Throw in Alinsky ethics especially concerning power and the domestic implosion here is right on track.

Actually, it doesn't. Further, fascism and capitalism are competing systems.

Mussolini had very little to say about race. He sought to salvage the mess of socialism from the hands of Lenin and Marx. By offering the profit motive in a centrally planned economy, production incentives could be maintained - something Lenin failed at. Fascism is a form of socialism, not capitalism. It is a centrally planned economy where the state controls the means of production. As with all socialism, fascism requires an authoritarian state.

You are correct that Obama is in full swing implementing fascism, though.

Fascism is built on the back of capitalism and only rises from capitalism gone awry. That is their link. The ruling class of the wealthy in power over the working poor.

 

[KissMy]

Pretty shitty job you got there if you can make more in government freebies than working.

He probably works for a US taxpayer subsidized Chinese importer like Walmart.

 

[courseofhistory]

The wealthy can and should pay a little more in taxes because they don't make their wealth in a vacuum. Little people below them help them in that endeavor by making goods and providing services they use in their companies and rise to the top. Without the minimum wage worker making the circuit board for wealthy business persons' computers as one example, the business wouldn't get too far.

 

[RosieS]

Neither I nor Rand said unbridled selfishness and greed would be the norm...You just made that straw man up out of your paranoid little mind.

Sorry to have to break it to you, but everybody thinks of number one first...That's how values systems and hierarchies work.

Well guess what. Occupy Wall Street was all about defying your value systems and tearing
down your hierarchies. Guess there is a semmii-organized disproof of your
overgeneralization.

Regards from Rosie

No, OWS was about a bunch of envious, covetous, loutish little know-nothing children, staging a months-long squat-in on private property....Doesn't get more self-indulgent and me-first than that.

Exactly wrong. Youth like that don't stand up to armed government opposition like OWS Oakland did. Remember the cops injured an Iraq War veteran protester.

It is being this far wrong about young people today which was a major cause of only retaining a gerrymandered House. Everywhere people were in large numbers your systems and hierarchies lost.

Regards from Rosie

 

[Ravi]

If Dudball wasn't such a hypocrite, he'd embrace his own notion of altruism.

Fact, not opinion.

 

[Oddball]

Well guess what. Occupy Wall Street was all about defying your value systems and tearing
down your hierarchies. Guess there is a semmii-organized disproof of your
overgeneralization.

Regards from Rosie

No, OWS was about a bunch of envious, covetous, loutish little know-nothing children, staging a months-long squat-in on private property....Doesn't get more self-indulgent and me-first than that.

Exactly wrong. Youth like that don't stand up to armed government opposition like OWS Oakland did. Remember the cops injured an Iraq War veteran protester.

It is being this far wrong about young people today which was a major cause of only retaining a gerrymandered House. Everywhere people were in large numbers your systems and hierarchies lost.

Regards from Rosie

No, it's exactly right.

All those OWS nincompoops did was embrace their highest levels if ignorance, covetousness and sheer selfishness to the hilt....It was never about anyone else but themselves.

 

[Ravi]

Thanks, Rosie.

 

[Vast LWC]

Jesus. Niether misquoting, incorrectly attributing, nor misinterpretting is a "strawman," the righties' new fave retort, which makes me think it popular on Fox News or the Limbaugh radio show. I merely speculate.

Strawman is making up the person, from thin air. Ergo, made of straw, metaphorically speaking. Example:

Some say (no one did, actually) Motherhood, Baseball, Hotdogs and Apple Pie are totally Communist!!! But they (folks made of straw, since they don't really exist) are wrong, and I'm here to tell you they're as American as me!!!

While I would agree with your general argument that the word "Strawman" is being overly used in the media these days...

In this particular post, wouldn't the "Strawman" be the imaginary person who made the statement that was referred to? I'd say his use of the word, in this case, was correct.

 

[RosieS]

No, OWS was about a bunch of envious, covetous, loutish little know-nothing children, staging a months-long squat-in on private property....Doesn't get more self-indulgent and me-first than that.

Exactly wrong. Youth like that don't stand up to armed government opposition like OWS Oakland did. Remember the cops injured an Iraq War veteran protester.

It is being this far wrong about young people today which was a major cause of only retaining a gerrymandered House. Everywhere people were in large numbers your systems and hierarchies lost.

Regards from Rosie

No, it's exactly right.

All those OWS nincompoops did was embrace their highest levels if ignorance, covetousness and sheer selfishness to the hilt....It was never about anyone else but themselves.

Your repetition does not make it so. If you were many-degreed you would already have understood that thru your higher edumacation.

The 99% won. The 1% were left to their Rovian hissy-fits. The support by OWS in many urban areas helped this come to pass. You all looked like fascist monsters to young people with your values systems and hierarchies.

If there is anywhere altruism is to be found it is among the under 30's.

Regards from Rosie

 

[Oddball]

I don't need many degrees, like you claim to have but cannot demonstrate in the least, to understand how values hierarchies work.

They're foundational in the fields of NLP, neuro-semantics and hypnosis....Areas in which I'm highly trained.

Peoples values, each and every one of them (your values too), begin and end in with what's in it for them....Period.

Altruism is a myth.

 

[del]

Only if you're ignorant to values hierarchies...Which you obviously are.

You guys keep trying to convince yourselves that selfishness and unbridled greed is the norm.

It ain't.

Societies filled with people that just think of "number one" do not last for very long.

Neither I nor Rand said unbridled selfishness and greed would be the norm...You just made that straw man up out of your paranoid little mind.

Sorry to have to break it to you, but everybody thinks of number one first...That's how values systems and hierarchies work.

thinking and acting are two different things, my fraudulent librarian.

that's how life works

 

[del]

No, OWS was about a bunch of envious, covetous, loutish little know-nothing children, staging a months-long squat-in on private property....Doesn't get more self-indulgent and me-first than that.

Exactly wrong. Youth like that don't stand up to armed government opposition like OWS Oakland did. Remember the cops injured an Iraq War veteran protester.

It is being this far wrong about young people today which was a major cause of only retaining a gerrymandered House. Everywhere people were in large numbers your systems and hierarchies lost.

Regards from Rosie

No, it's exactly right.

All those OWS nincompoops did was embrace their highest levels if ignorance, covetousness and sheer selfishness to the hilt....It was never about anyone else but themselves.

you're raising projection to an art form, ayn.

kudos