South Sudan

[High_Gravity]

To be honest Ropey I see a war with Sudan in their future before they can start making any real progress, the Sudanese troops keep raiding villages in South Sudan and making air strikes on them, and than denying it to the media. That shit has to stop.

I am afraid you may be right. It will be difficult for South Sudan to emerge as a viable state.

Thats because the North doesn't want them to.

 

[Artevelde]

To be honest Ropey I see a war with Sudan in their future before they can start making any real progress, the Sudanese troops keep raiding villages in South Sudan and making air strikes on them, and than denying it to the media. That shit has to stop.

I am afraid you may be right. It will be difficult for South Sudan to emerge as a viable state.

Thats because the North doesn't want them to.

That is certainly part of the problem. But I believe that South Sudan has a lot of internal problems too.

 

[High_Gravity]

I am afraid you may be right. It will be difficult for South Sudan to emerge as a viable state.

Thats because the North doesn't want them to.

That is certainly part of the problem. But I believe that South Sudan has a lot of internal problems too.

Oh of course, there is alot of internal strife with the tribes there, however South Sudan has the oil and can be quite successful but I think that will take some time, because of their resources they will draw international investment and they won't be ignored like poor African countries like Mali and Chad for example.

 

[High_Gravity]

Clashes Raise Global Worries Over Sudan and South Sudan

KHARTOUM, Sudan — After a brief, halting step toward reconciliation, military clashes along the long, disputed border between Sudan and newly independent South Sudan have stirred fears of a renewed conflict between the two sides.

“Recent cross-border attacks and continued aerial bombing represent a dangerous escalation of an already tense situation,” a statement from the office of the European Union’s foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton, said on Wednesday. The statement followed similar expressions of concern this week by the United States, the United Nations and the African Union.

On Tuesday, South Sudanese officials accused Sudan of carrying out airstrikes over their territory. Barnaba Benjamin, South Sudan’s minister of information, said, “Sudanese planes flew 100 kilometers into our airspace and bombed oil fields in Unity State.”

In a counterattack, South Sudanese forces claimed control of the oil-producing town of Heglig in Sudan, which the South says is a disputed territory. Sudanese forces, however, said they had retaken Heglig.

“Our armed forces were able to repel the aggressors and prevent them from achieving their goal of occupying the area of Heglig,” said a statement read by a Sudanese Army spokesman, Al-Sawarmi Khalid, who rejected the South’s assertion that Heglig was among the disputed areas.

The back-and-forth came one day after both sides exchanged allegations of carrying out attacks on each other’s territory.

In July, South Sudan seceded from Sudan, taking with it nearly 75 percent of the country’s oil production. But the facilities to process, refine and export the oil are north in Sudan. Both sides have failed to agree on oil production fees, or on issues like the demarcation of borders and the status of their citizens living on the other side. Both governments also accuse each other of supporting rebel groups on their soil.

There appeared to be a breakthrough last week when South Sudan’s president, Salva Kiir Mayardit, sent a delegation to Khartoum to invite Sudan’s president, Omar Hassan al-Bashir, to South Sudan’s capital, Juba, for a summit meeting next Tuesday. But the military clashes prompted Sudan to call off the meeting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/w...h-sudan-clashes-raise-concern.html?ref=africa

 

[High_Gravity]

S. Sudan Troops Move into Oil-Rich Town

(JUBA, South Sudan) — Troops from South Sudan moved into an oil-rich border town claimed by Sudan as fighting intensified between the countries over who controls the area, officials said Wednesday. A South Sudan official said the fighting is "spreading all over."

The two sides fought a civil war that lasted decades, and any increase in sporadic border clashes raises the risk of a return to all-out war.

Sudanese army spokesman Col. Sawarmy Khaled told the official Radio Omdurman that the South's army attacked the border oil town of Heglig twice in the past 24 hours. Heglig is located about 60 miles to the east of the disputed region of Abyei, whose fate was left unresolved when South Sudan split last year from Sudan.

South Sudan officials would not confirm whether their troops are in control of the oil fields. "Fierce battles are still going on and the situation has not yet been resolved," said Khaled, promising the Sudanese people their side will be victorious.

Hostilities between Sudan and South Sudan have grown in recent months, even as the south has said it is trying to avoid a return to war. The two sides never reached a deal to share the oil resources in the region or the exact location of the border, adding to the tensions.

South Sudan's army — the SPLA — said it moved into Heglig on Tuesday after repelling an attack launched by Sudanese Armed Forces against an SPLA position near the border town of Teshwin.

SPLA spokesman Col. Philip Aguer said several Sudanese MiG-29 fighter jets bombed the area on Monday and Tuesday. Aguer said several SPLA soldiers were injured in the attack but would not say how many. "The war is widened," said South Sudan Information Minister Barnaba Marial Benjamin. "The battle is raging. It is spreading all over."

Heglig lies along the ill-defined border between the countries and has been the focal point of nearly two weeks of clashes between the armies. The region is home to oil facilities that account for around half of Sudan's oil production, a critical source of income for the country's flagging economy.

Read more: S. Sudan Troops Move into Oil-Rich Town - TIME

 

[JStone]

S. Sudan Troops Move into Oil-Rich Town

(JUBA, South Sudan) — Troops from South Sudan moved into an oil-rich border town claimed by Sudan as fighting intensified between the countries over who controls the area, officials said Wednesday. A South Sudan official said the fighting is "spreading all over."

The two sides fought a civil war that lasted decades, and any increase in sporadic border clashes raises the risk of a return to all-out war.

Sudanese army spokesman Col. Sawarmy Khaled told the official Radio Omdurman that the South's army attacked the border oil town of Heglig twice in the past 24 hours. Heglig is located about 60 miles to the east of the disputed region of Abyei, whose fate was left unresolved when South Sudan split last year from Sudan.

South Sudan officials would not confirm whether their troops are in control of the oil fields. "Fierce battles are still going on and the situation has not yet been resolved," said Khaled, promising the Sudanese people their side will be victorious.

Hostilities between Sudan and South Sudan have grown in recent months, even as the south has said it is trying to avoid a return to war. The two sides never reached a deal to share the oil resources in the region or the exact location of the border, adding to the tensions.

South Sudan's army — the SPLA — said it moved into Heglig on Tuesday after repelling an attack launched by Sudanese Armed Forces against an SPLA position near the border town of Teshwin.

SPLA spokesman Col. Philip Aguer said several Sudanese MiG-29 fighter jets bombed the area on Monday and Tuesday. Aguer said several SPLA soldiers were injured in the attack but would not say how many. "The war is widened," said South Sudan Information Minister Barnaba Marial Benjamin. "The battle is raging. It is spreading all over."

Heglig lies along the ill-defined border between the countries and has been the focal point of nearly two weeks of clashes between the armies. The region is home to oil facilities that account for around half of Sudan's oil production, a critical source of income for the country's flagging economy.

Read more: S. Sudan Troops Move into Oil-Rich Town - TIME

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxAKFlpdcfc]Applause - YouTube[/ame]

 

[High_Gravity]

South Sudan-Sudan Clashes Spreading, Officials Say

KAMPALA, Uganda — Sudan shelled a disputed border town seized by South Sudan, a southern military official said Monday, as clashes spread near the border separating the two nations.

U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice, the current president of the Security Council, said a bombardment in South Sudan also hit a U.N. facility but that no U.N. personnel are thought to be hurt.

Two Sudanese warplanes dropped "many bombs" Monday on the oil-rich city of Heglig, as long-range artillery targeted southern army positions in the disputed town, said southern army spokesman Col. Philip Aguer. He did not give a casualty figure. He also said Monday that Sudan's air force killed five civilians in aerial attacks Sunday over Heglig.

Aguer also said that the town of Bentiu in South Sudan's Unity State was hit and that the conflict has spread to several southern states bordering Sudan, including Western Bahr el Ghazal.

He said the rival armies had not yet engaged in physical fighting this week.

"Today they bombed our positions in Heglig and the oil installations in Heglig," he said Monday. "We are waiting for them in the killing zone and they are not coming."

But he said the north's army is now 23 kilometers (some 14 miles) from Heglig, which is claimed by Sudan but was seized last week by South Sudanese forces in fierce fighting that southern officials say killed at least 240 Sudanese soldiers and 19 South Sudanese troops.

"We know that Sudanese troops are advancing toward Heglig," he said.

Sudanese officials also claimed Monday to have seized an area sympathetic to South Sudan.

Aguer said the clashes are a "terrible escalation" of the border conflict that stretches back before South Sudan broke away from Sudan last year.

Fighting along the north-south border has been near constant over the past two weeks.

U.S. ambassador Rice, speaking to reporters on Monday, condemned the recent strikes.

"The fact of today's bombardment, which was deep into South Sudan and hit a U.N. facility, is particularly condemnable and deplorable," she said. "We understand from press reports that there may be a number of casualties surrounding the area."

South Sudan-Sudan Clashes Spreading, Officials Say

 

[High_Gravity]

Sudan-South Sudan War: Heglig, Disputed Town, Full Of Dead Bodies, Circling Antonovs

HEGLIG, Sudan — The road to Heglig, an oil town that South Sudan and Sudan are fighting over, is lined with discarded furniture, destroyed buses and tanks, and clusters of dead Sudanese soldiers.

South Sudan's army, known as the SPLA, moved north into Heglig earlier this month, sparking the bloodiest fighting since South Sudan broke off from Sudan last July and became the world's newest nation. A top SPLA official said the south plans to keep moving north, taking territory the south believes it owns. The crisis threatens to widen into all-out war.

An Associated Press reporter was among the first foreign journalists to reach the disputed border since fighting began two weeks ago.

As 2nd Lt. Abram Manjil Kony sped north from the South Sudan military base at the Unity State oil field, he pointed out clusters of fallen Sudanese soldiers. Birds stalked the corpses.

"Jalaba, jalaba," Kony said, meaning "Arab" and, by extension, people from Sudan, which is predominantly Arab while the south is predominantly black.

The area around Heglig produces about half of Sudan's oil, but the south lays claim to it and says its ownership is in dispute.

South Sudan army spokesman Col. Philip Aguer said that Sudan's military bombed an oil well outside Heglig on Monday and that it continued to burn Tuesday. He said Sudan forces are trying to open other fronts along the border and that southern forces are on high alert in Western Baah el Ghazal state.

"The border is still fragile. Tension is very high. The Sudan Armed Forces continue to bomb indiscriminately most of the areas north of Unity State. This is on a daily basis, more than twice a day," Aguer said.

SPLA soldiers occupy deserted oil facilities and a Sudanese Army base in Heglig that bears signs of a hasty retreat: Military uniforms, blankets and boots litter the ground.

Sudan-South Sudan War: Heglig, Disputed Town, Full Of Dead Bodies, Circling Antonovs

 

[Katzndogz]

Another islamic conflict!

 

[High_Gravity]

Another islamic conflict!

Well not everyone in South Sudan is Muslim.

Religions followed by the South Sudanese include traditional indigenous religions, Christianity and Islam.[77] The last census to mention the religion of southerners dates back to 1956 where a majority followed traditional beliefs while the rest were classified as either Christian or Muslim.[78] Scholarly[79][80][81] and U.S. Department of State sources[18] state that a majority of southern Sudanese maintain traditional indigenous (sometimes referred to as Animist) beliefs with those following Christianity in a minority (albeit an influential one), making South Sudan one of the very few countries in the world where most people follow traditional indigenous religion.

South Sudan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ScienceRocks]

Another islamic conflict!

Well, maybe, but more likely another negro conflict. They love to kill, destroy and cause pain on their own populations. Sicking. Down right evil, I'd say.

 

[High_Gravity]

The War Between the Sudans: No Longer Any Pretense of Peace

The road to Heglig has no sign or post marking the border between northern and southern Sudan, where Sudan's new war began on Saturday. Instead, there is a sudden trail of rotting corpses leading steadily north. At its head stands a northern Sudanese military base, now captured and looted by the South. Inside, South Sudan's generals plan their next offensive, marking troop positions and movements in the sand with a curtain rod. Outside, South South Sudanese soldiers mix freely with their allies — officially denied, but now in open view — from the Darfuri rebel group, the Justice and Equality Movement (JEM). The men are wary. They glance at the sky to check for approaching northern warplanes, and dig shallow foxholes for protection against bombs. Suddenly a Sudanese jet screams overhead. The dry desert air erupts with the thud of an aerial bombardment. "We are under attack," yells Maj. Gen. Mangar Buong, the South Sudanese commander. And the soldiers scatter for cover.

Sudan, once again, is back at war. Whether the conflict lasts for days, weeks or years is unknowable. What is clear is that the pretense of peace can no longer be maintained. Sudan's northern regime in Khartoum fought the South for more than half a century in a conflict that cost 2 million lives. The pair have been officially at peace since a 2005 agreement that led, last year, to the separation of north and south into two separate countries. But the border between the two remains disputed at several places and the two sides have fought sporadic skirmishes along their frontier for years.

In recent months, the most deadly of these have centered in and around Heglig, an oil field officially in the north but claimed by the south. Northern and southern soldiers have exchanged fire, northern bombers have attacked southern territory — and last Saturday southern soldiers invaded and seized Heglig. South Sudan claims it is just defending against northern aggression. But that claim is weakened by the presence of JEM, whose agenda is nothing less than the overthrow of President Omar al-Bashir's regime in Khartoum. Like turbaned cowboys, JEM's fighters swarm up and down the road in roofless pick-up trucks mounted with heavy guns. Arabic is sprawled across their trucks, and they point and pose for photos, exclaiming "Darfur" or "JEM." Officially, South Sudan says it has no ties with the Darfur rebels. In Heglig, that's another pretence that no longer stands up.

Read more: The War Between the Sudans: No Longer Any Pretense of Peace - TIME

 

[High_Gravity]

Sudan-South Sudan Conflict: Sudan Continues Assault, Official Says

NAIROBI, Kenya -- South Sudan's president said its northern neighbor has "declared war" on the world's newest nation, just hours after Sudanese jets dropped eight bombs onto South Sudan on Tuesday.

President Salva Kiir's comments, made during a trip to China, signal a rise in rhetoric between the rival nations who had spent decades at war with each other. Neither side has officially declared war.

Sudan and South Sudan have been drawing closer to a full-scale war in recent weeks over the unresolved issues of oil revenues and their disputed border. The violence has drawn alarm and condemnation from the international community, including from U.S. President Barack Obama.

South Sudan seceded from Sudan last year as a result of a 2005 peace treaty that ended decades of war that killed 2 million people.

Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir gave a fiery speech last week in which he said there will be no negotiations with the "poisonous insects" who are challenging Sudan's claim to disputed territory near the nations' shared border.

Kiir, the southern president, arrived in China late Monday for a five-day visit to lobby for economic and diplomatic support. China's energy needs make it deeply vested in the future of the two Sudans, and Beijing is uniquely positioned to exert influence in the conflict given its deep trade ties to the resource-rich south and decades-long diplomatic ties with Sudan's government in the north.

Kiir told Chinese President Hu Jintao the visit comes at a "a very critical moment for the Republic of South Sudan because our neighbor in Khartoum has declared war on the Republic of South Sudan."

South Sudan's military spokesman Col. Philip Aguer said that Sudanese Antonovs dropped eight bombs overnight Monday between 11 p.m. and 1 a.m. in Panakuac, where he said there had been ground fighting on Monday. Aguer said he could not offer a death toll from the attack because of a poor communication link with the remote area.

Sudan-South Sudan Conflict: Sudan Continues Assault, Official Says

 

[Artevelde]

My feeling is that the West should give aid to South Sudan.

 

[High_Gravity]

My feeling is that the West should give aid to South Sudan.

Yes, I am also in favor of Military training and supplies, cause the Arabs are already doing that with the North.

 

[High_Gravity]

Sudan-South Sudan Conflict: Sudan Declares State Of Emergency In Border Areas

KHARTOUM, Sudan — Sudan declared a state of emergency Sunday in areas bordering South Sudan, giving authorities wide powers of arrest a day after they detained three foreigners in a flashpoint town along the frontier.

The detentions and state of emergency heightened tensions even further along border between the old rivals, who in the past month came to the brink of an all-out war because of renewed fighting in disputed areas.

Sudanese officials have accused South Sudan of using foreigner fighters during its assault on the oil-rich Heglig region, which Sudan claims. Southern Sudanese troops briefly captured the area, amid rising international concerns of an escalation in the fighting between the two countries.

Sudanese army spokesman Col. Sawarmy Khaled claimed on state television late Saturday that four people arrested in the Heglig region, including a Briton, a Norwegian, a South African and a South Sudanese, had military backgrounds. He alleged they were carrying out military activities in Heglig, but did not elaborate. Khaled said the arrests prove its government claims that South Sudan uses foreign fighters.

But a representative for one of the three said Sunday that they were on a humanitarian mine-clearing mission.

South Sudan split from Sudan in July last year , but the two countries have yet to agree on border demarcation and divvying up oil revenues and resources.

South Sudan invaded Heglig earlier this month, saying it belonged to the south. Sudan later retook the town; Sudanese forces say they pushed out the South Sudanese while South Sudan says its troops pulled out to avoid an all-out war. Sudan elevated the tension even further by bombing South Sudan.

In Oslo, a Norwegian humanitarian organization said Sunday that one of its employees, 50-year-old John Soerboe, was detained while on a five-day mine-clearing mission in southern Sudan with the Briton and South African.

Sudan-South Sudan Conflict: Sudan Declares State Of Emergency In Border Areas

 

[High_Gravity]

U.N. Resolution Threatens Sanctions Against Sudan and South Sudan

The United Nations Security Council approved a resolution on Wednesday threatening Sudan and South Sudan with sanctions if they failed to halt escalating cross-border fighting that was called a “serious threat to international peace.” The resolution demanded the nations resume negotiations on fraught issues like oil sharing to try to stop the violence. Russia and China, which have resisted voting against Sudan in the past, joined in the unanimous passage of the resolution.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/w...against-sudan-and-south-sudan.html?ref=africa

 

[High_Gravity]

South Sudan 'bombing' despite UN sanctions deadline

The two Sudans have swapped accusations of continuing to fight as a UN deadline has passed for them to cease hostilities or face sanctions.

South Sudan says Khartoum is continuing to bomb its territory - charges it denies.

Sudan says that until the South withdraws from territory it has occupied it has not "stopped hostilities".

Both sides have promised to comply with a UN Security Council resolution.

The two-day UN ultimatum was passed on Wednesday and expired at 15:00 GMT on Friday, amid fears of an all-out war between the neighbours.

The Security Council backed an African Union plan called for a written commitment by both governments to stop fighting, and threatened sanctions, such as asset freezes and travel bans, if its terms were not met.

South Sudan has already said it accepts the terms of the roadmap.

Under the roadmap, the two countries have until next Tuesday to restart negotiations and three months to reach an agreement.

Meanwhile, the International Organisation for Migration (IOM) has confirmed that the Sudanese government has extended the deadline for the return of thousands of South Sudanese refugees to their home country until 20 May - they had been given until 5 May.

BBC News - South Sudan 'bombing' despite UN sanctions deadline

 

[GHook93]

Another islamic conflict!

Well, maybe, but more likely another negro conflict. They love to kill, destroy and cause pain on their own populations. Sicking. Down right evil, I'd say.

The government of Northern Sudan is made up of Arabs you ignorant fool. The aggressors here are not Black Christians of Southern Sudan, but the Arab Muslims of the North!

 

[GHook93]

Sudan-South Sudan Conflict: Sudan Continues Assault, Official Says

NAIROBI, Kenya -- South Sudan's president said its northern neighbor has "declared war" on the world's newest nation, just hours after Sudanese jets dropped eight bombs onto South Sudan on Tuesday.

President Salva Kiir's comments, made during a trip to China, signal a rise in rhetoric between the rival nations who had spent decades at war with each other. Neither side has officially declared war.

Sudan and South Sudan have been drawing closer to a full-scale war in recent weeks over the unresolved issues of oil revenues and their disputed border. The violence has drawn alarm and condemnation from the international community, including from U.S. President Barack Obama.

South Sudan seceded from Sudan last year as a result of a 2005 peace treaty that ended decades of war that killed 2 million people.

Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir gave a fiery speech last week in which he said there will be no negotiations with the "poisonous insects" who are challenging Sudan's claim to disputed territory near the nations' shared border.

Kiir, the southern president, arrived in China late Monday for a five-day visit to lobby for economic and diplomatic support. China's energy needs make it deeply vested in the future of the two Sudans, and Beijing is uniquely positioned to exert influence in the conflict given its deep trade ties to the resource-rich south and decades-long diplomatic ties with Sudan's government in the north.

Kiir told Chinese President Hu Jintao the visit comes at a "a very critical moment for the Republic of South Sudan because our neighbor in Khartoum has declared war on the Republic of South Sudan."

South Sudan's military spokesman Col. Philip Aguer said that Sudanese Antonovs dropped eight bombs overnight Monday between 11 p.m. and 1 a.m. in Panakuac, where he said there had been ground fighting on Monday. Aguer said he could not offer a death toll from the attack because of a poor communication link with the remote area.

Sudan-South Sudan Conflict: Sudan Continues Assault, Official Says

Yea going to China for help is like the mouse going to the snake to get protection from the cat!