Something is happening in Venezuela

[Dick Foster]

Twitter is blowing up. Shots are being fired.

Could you provide a link to that?

I wonder IF Maduro if he thinks he is about to be overthrown will allow himself to be taken alive or if he will kill himself like that other Communist Salvador Allende when the Patriot Augusto Pinochet did the military coup on him?

This coup in Venezuela from the pictures is NOT as EXCITING as the coup the Patriot Augusto Pinochet did in Chile, that was VERY EXCITING literally planes and helicopter gun ships shooting up from the air the building the Communist Salvador Allende was in and he shoot himself in the head with a gun given to him years before by the other Communist Fidel Castro.

Which one's wife had all the shoes?

That was Emeilda Marcos of the Phillippines.

 

[Toro]

Comparing the attempted surreptitious coup engineered by Obama holdovers in the FBI, DOJ and the intelligence community to what is going on in Venezuela under the Marxist dictator Nicolas Meduro, as if they are all the same (a coup is a coup)?
As if it's intellectually inconsistent to be against removing the legally elected president of the United States of America by illegal means but for removing the brutal authoritarian dictator of a failed repressive socialist state like Venezuela?
Is there something we have missed about people starving in Venezuela and being murdered in the streets by Meduro goons?

Do more cardio...I think your brain is oxygen deprived.

Maduro was elected with 67.8% of the vote total.

Yes, in an election that the US, the EU, and most of the OAS refused to recognize due to opposition leaders being declared ineligible, the rump legislature made up by Maduro calling for the election unconstitutionally, and widespread accusations of fraud.

Venezuela is a sovereign nation just as the US is; do you believe the US would allow a POTUS election to be dictated by some dumbass group that has no binding powers over US national elections? LOFL ............ haha ............

The OAS, EU and US are “dumbass groups?”

They aren’t dictating anything. They are pointing out that the election is fraudulent.

Guiado is President of the National Assembly. And him calling for an uprising is the VZ people sorting this out.

I hear folks (mostly right leaning, conservative, GOP) here at USMB all the time discussing the sovereignty of the US & how the US should never allow any organization, and/or treaty to dictate what we do here in the US; groups like the UN, ICC, UNFCCC, NAFTA, TPNW, etc., you name it.

So, if what is good for the goose is good for the gander then why should any nation kowtow to any other nation, group, agreement, treaty, etc., you name it?

The OAS, the EU, and the US have no binding power in relation to any sovereign government, and they shouldn't but then we come across shit like the 2003 Bush/Iraq War; the clusterfuck that deposed a government in response to 9/11 & non existant WMDs.

Yes, these groups can be as useless as a condom full of pin holes .............

That’s not how the world works, s0n.

There is an openly hostile government to the US in Caracas who is receiving military aid from America’s rivals and enemies. There’s no way we should or will allow that to go unanswered.

 

[georgephillip]

Is Juan Guaido the latest "Catfish" in Venezuela?

"Later, during the Dutch-Venezuelan crisis of 1908, the US Navy helped Venezuelan Vice President Juan Vicente Gómez seize power in a coup. Gómez, known as 'The Catfish,' would rule the country either directly or through puppet presidents, until his death in 1935.

"His regime was one of inconceivably medieval brutality.

"His enforcers were fond of shackling political prisoners in grillos, leg irons that rendered many victims permanently disabled — and those were the 'lucky' ones.

"The unlucky ones were hanged to death by meathooks through their throats or testicles."

The History - and Hypocrisy - of US Meddling in Venezuela

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Venezuela is a sovereign nation just as the US is; do you believe the US would allow a POTUS election to be dictated by some dumbass group that has no binding powers over US national elections? LOFL ............ haha ............

Keep sucking that dictator dick, you commie cum bucket.

So, instead of producing a valid argument, you just troll, troll, troll, your boat.

You have no valid argument, and you never will have a valid argument.

You have never had a valid point on this board to mandate a valid argument in return.

So, you support violent insurrections & coups in other nations BUT not in the US.

Yes, that sounds very conservative & I'm sure you claim to be 'conservative.'

Would you support a coup in North Korea or not?

Do you believe people have the inherent right to revolt if they determine the government they live under is tyranical?

Why would I support a violent insurrection in the US at the current time? We have a valid elected government at all levels.

I may despise my local government, but it is not invalid.

I have not had time to look at those News Feeds I had to deal with my kidlets, so has anything new happened in Venezuela or is it still the same chaotic situation as a few hours ago?

 

[martybegan]

Keep sucking that dictator dick, you commie cum bucket.

So, instead of producing a valid argument, you just troll, troll, troll, your boat.

You have no valid argument, and you never will have a valid argument.

You have never had a valid point on this board to mandate a valid argument in return.

So, you support violent insurrections & coups in other nations BUT not in the US.

Yes, that sounds very conservative & I'm sure you claim to be 'conservative.'

Would you support a coup in North Korea or not?

Do you believe people have the inherent right to revolt if they determine the government they live under is tyranical?

Why would I support a violent insurrection in the US at the current time? We have a valid elected government at all levels.

I may despise my local government, but it is not invalid.

I have not had time to look at those News Feeds I had to deal with my kidlets, so has anything new happened in Venezuela or is it still the same chaotic situation as a few hours ago?

No news of any heavy government response, so for the opposition that is a good thing.

Still no hard information, which you would expect form the situation.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Maduro was elected with 67.8% of the vote total.

Yes, in an election that the US, the EU, and most of the OAS refused to recognize due to opposition leaders being declared ineligible, the rump legislature made up by Maduro calling for the election unconstitutionally, and widespread accusations of fraud.

Venezuela is a sovereign nation just as the US is; do you believe the US would allow a POTUS election to be dictated by some dumbass group that has no binding powers over US national elections? LOFL ............ haha ............

The OAS, EU and US are “dumbass groups?”

They aren’t dictating anything. They are pointing out that the election is fraudulent.

Guiado is President of the National Assembly. And him calling for an uprising is the VZ people sorting this out.

I hear folks (mostly right leaning, conservative, GOP) here at USMB all the time discussing the sovereignty of the US & how the US should never allow any organization, and/or treaty to dictate what we do here in the US; groups like the UN, ICC, UNFCCC, NAFTA, TPNW, etc., you name it.

So, if what is good for the goose is good for the gander then why should any nation kowtow to any other nation, group, agreement, treaty, etc., you name it?

The OAS, the EU, and the US have no binding power in relation to any sovereign government, and they shouldn't but then we come across shit like the 2003 Bush/Iraq War; the clusterfuck that deposed a government in response to 9/11 & non existant WMDs.

Yes, these groups can be as useless as a condom full of pin holes .............

That’s not how the world works, s0n.

There is an openly hostile government to the US in Caracas who is receiving military aid from America’s rivals and enemies. There’s no way we should or will allow that to go unanswered.

I do NOT think that Venezuela was EVER about to Invade America it's that the insanity in Venezuela is causing problems in other Latin American nations who are having to take in between them several MILLIONS in Venezuelas running away from Maduro's nightmare Regime in Venezuela, Columbia for example has a TON of that crowd and have NOWHERE to put them they have so many.

In Latin America only Mexico, Nigaragua and Bolivia who ALL have Leftist Governments are supporting Maduro ALL the others are supporting the coup, thank God that Latin America once again is turning AGAINST Leftism very few of their Governments are now Leftist and hopefully it STAYS that way this time.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Is Juan Guaido the latest "Catfish" in Venezuela?

"Later, during the Dutch-Venezuelan crisis of 1908, the US Navy helped Venezuelan Vice President Juan Vicente Gómez seize power in a coup. Gómez, known as 'The Catfish,' would rule the country either directly or through puppet presidents, until his death in 1935.

"His regime was one of inconceivably medieval brutality.

"His enforcers were fond of shackling political prisoners in grillos, leg irons that rendered many victims permanently disabled — and those were the 'lucky' ones.

"The unlucky ones were hanged to death by meathooks through their throats or testicles."

That's all well land good, what happened in 1908, but today (literally today) in 2019, the forces of authoritarian dictator Mediuro are running down people on the street and shooting them on sight.
Of course we know about the rampant starvation that causes people to eat zoo animals.


Why sort of gutless amoral prick would try to give cover to Meduro? You, it looks like.
Venezuela in CHAOS: Shocking video shows protesters run over by National Guard vehicle

 

[georgephillip]

Is Juan Guaido the latest "Catfish" in Venezuela?

"Later, during the Dutch-Venezuelan crisis of 1908, the US Navy helped Venezuelan Vice President Juan Vicente Gómez seize power in a coup. Gómez, known as 'The Catfish,' would rule the country either directly or through puppet presidents, until his death in 1935.

"His regime was one of inconceivably medieval brutality.

"His enforcers were fond of shackling political prisoners in grillos, leg irons that rendered many victims permanently disabled — and those were the 'lucky' ones.

"The unlucky ones were hanged to death by meathooks through their throats or testicles."

That's all well land good, what happened in 1908, but today (literally today) in 2019, the forces of authoritarian dictator Mediuro are running down on people on the street and shooting them on sight.
Of course we know about the rampant starvation that causes people to eat zoo animals.


Why sort of gutless amoral prick would try to give cover to Meduro? You, it looks like.

That's all well land good, what happened in 1908, but today (literally today) in 2019, the forces of authoritarian dictator Mediuro are running down on people on the street and shooting them on sight.

Who told you that, John Bolton?

"John Bolton doesn’t serve up any mush about 'democracy ' or 'human rights' in selling the U.S. war against Venezuela. Trump’s national security advisor told the Fox Business Network on Jan. 24 the real reason for the hostilities:

'"It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies really invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela.'

"In other words, it’s all about oil profits."

John Bolton and the Monroe Doctrine

 

[georgephillip]

Is Juan Guaido the latest "Catfish" in Venezuela?

"Later, during the Dutch-Venezuelan crisis of 1908, the US Navy helped Venezuelan Vice President Juan Vicente Gómez seize power in a coup. Gómez, known as 'The Catfish,' would rule the country either directly or through puppet presidents, until his death in 1935.

"His regime was one of inconceivably medieval brutality.

"His enforcers were fond of shackling political prisoners in grillos, leg irons that rendered many victims permanently disabled — and those were the 'lucky' ones.

"The unlucky ones were hanged to death by meathooks through their throats or testicles."

That's all well land good, what happened in 1908, but today (literally today) in 2019, the forces of authoritarian dictator Mediuro are running down people on the street and shooting them on sight.
Of course we know about the rampant starvation that causes people to eat zoo animals.


Why sort of gutless amoral prick would try to give cover to Meduro? You, it looks like.
Venezuela in CHAOS: Shocking video shows protesters run over by National Guard vehicle

Why sort of gutless amoral prick would try to give cover to Meduro? You, it looks like.
Venezuela in CHAOS: Shocking video shows protesters run over by National Guard vehicle

Your link:

"The shock announcement led to mass protests across the capital and one video shows a Venezuelan National Guard vehicle running over anti-Maduro protesters outside of the military base.

"The protesters could be seen throwing rocks at the vehicles before one drove into the crowd of civilians.

"It is unknown whether the incident caused any injuries."

btw, the Gutless Prick's on your side.

B. Janine Morison - Impeach Trump on Twitter

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

"John Bolton doesn’t serve up any mush about 'democracy ' or 'human rights' in selling the U.S. war against Venezuela. Trump’s national security advisor told the Fox Business Network on Jan. 24 the real reason for the hostilities:

'"It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies really invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela.'

"In other words, it’s all about oil profits."

John Bolton and the Monroe Doctrine

I don't give a crap about John Bolton. There is no war over Venezuela and their oil.

I care about your pathetic attempt at misdirection (bringing up 1908 when this very day in the streets of Venezuela people are being crushed by armored vehicles and murdered by Meduro's thugs).

I will congratulate you though for getting through one entire post without mentioning Trump and your lies about him.

 

[caddo kid]

So, instead of producing a valid argument, you just troll, troll, troll, your boat.

You have no valid argument, and you never will have a valid argument.

You have never had a valid point on this board to mandate a valid argument in return.

So, you support violent insurrections & coups in other nations BUT not in the US.

Yes, that sounds very conservative & I'm sure you claim to be 'conservative.'

so far the only documennted violence is the military against unarmed protesters.

It looks like the person that was not a candidate during the last election, Guaido, is the one directing civilians & others to create chaos, and Guaido is actively supporting treasonous insurrection against the Venezuelan Government.

Guiado is the equivalent of the Speaker of the House, who is third in line for the Presidency. If something happens to the President and VP, the Speaker becomes President, even if she didn’t run for President. Because the President of VZ was fraudulently elected, he has legitimacy to become President. In fact, he is calling himself interim President and will hold free elections after he is installed.

So, if Nancy Pelosi wants to go frickin nutz then we're all good here in the US; right? LOFL ........

 

[Cellblock2429]

Some calling it a coup. From what I have seen it's a protest going on, and growing.

BREAKING: Juan Guaidó Launches Military Uprising in Venezuela Against Socialist Maduro

Live: Attempted coup underway in Venezuela - CNN

Now the question of it being a coup depends on who you think is actually in power under the Venezuelan Constitution, and which version of the Constitution one thinks is valid.

It's going to be a mess, regardless, if this is actually what is happening.

/——/ The kind hearted socialists are running down the evil freedom seekers with military trucks. Venezuela uprising turns violent after military armored vehicle plows into crowd of opposition supporters

 

[caddo kid]

“There is nothing wrong with a little shooting, as long as all the right people get shot” ... famous Dirty Harry quote.

Yup and I can honestly say I couldn't give shit one about what happens in Venezuela.

They can all kill themselves for all I care.

Agreed. Any government & people should have the ability to chart their own course without interference from the US, or from any other nation.

Cuba has had military advisers in Venezuela for years. They’ve been assisting Chavez and Maduro dismantling VZ democratic institutions for years.

So, big deal; that is their business.

The US tried & FAILED at deposing the Castro government.

Why are you so afraid?

We tried & FAILED in Vietnam; we lost between 50K & 60K US troops in that clusterfuck, tens of thousands maimed for life, and what did we get from that?

Oh yes; we got our ass kicked. Vietnam is (now) such a threat; I'm scared.

You said earlier that the US has overthrown many governments, now you’re arguing that we are bad at it? Which is it?

Besides, this is Guiado doing this. Why don’t you want the VZ people to sort this out? Why are you afraid?

I said it is no business of the US to (1) initiate a coup (2) support a coup

and yes; we don't seem to be so successful at regime change ........

 

[caddo kid]

Is Juan Guaido the latest "Catfish" in Venezuela?

"Later, during the Dutch-Venezuelan crisis of 1908, the US Navy helped Venezuelan Vice President Juan Vicente Gómez seize power in a coup. Gómez, known as 'The Catfish,' would rule the country either directly or through puppet presidents, until his death in 1935.

"His regime was one of inconceivably medieval brutality.

"His enforcers were fond of shackling political prisoners in grillos, leg irons that rendered many victims permanently disabled — and those were the 'lucky' ones.

"The unlucky ones were hanged to death by meathooks through their throats or testicles."

The History - and Hypocrisy - of US Meddling in Venezuela

Now, now, now; settle down; the US Government is a saint of epic proportions.

The US Government & the US people have constantly stated how much they are for freedom, just as long as the US can do the maiming & the murdering to reach that point.

It's not about how you play by the rulez, it's how you kill everyone you don't like until they are dead.

The US fights brutal regimes with brutality but the US is a saint; just remember.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The shock announcement led to mass protests across the capital and one video shows a Venezuelan National Guard vehicle running over anti-Maduro protesters outside of the military base.

"The protesters could be seen throwing rocks at the vehicles before one drove into the crowd of civilians.

"It is unknown whether the incident caused any injuries."

What's this? Rationalizing running people over? Just like a gutless prick would do. Well done.

I assume anyone being run down by armored army vehicles injured some of the people they struck.

I withdraw my previous congratulations based on your latest little attack on the President of the United States of America.
It must be agony and like a knife in your heart every single day he is in office. It'll all be over in five years or so.

 

[caddo kid]

Is Juan Guaido the latest "Catfish" in Venezuela?

"Later, during the Dutch-Venezuelan crisis of 1908, the US Navy helped Venezuelan Vice President Juan Vicente Gómez seize power in a coup. Gómez, known as 'The Catfish,' would rule the country either directly or through puppet presidents, until his death in 1935.

"His regime was one of inconceivably medieval brutality.

"His enforcers were fond of shackling political prisoners in grillos, leg irons that rendered many victims permanently disabled — and those were the 'lucky' ones.

"The unlucky ones were hanged to death by meathooks through their throats or testicles."

That's all well land good, what happened in 1908, but today (literally today) in 2019, the forces of authoritarian dictator Mediuro are running down people on the street and shooting them on sight.
Of course we know about the rampant starvation that causes people to eat zoo animals.


Why sort of gutless amoral prick would try to give cover to Meduro? You, it looks like.
Venezuela in CHAOS: Shocking video shows protesters run over by National Guard vehicle

Why sort of gutless amoral prick would try to give cover to Meduro? You, it looks like.
Venezuela in CHAOS: Shocking video shows protesters run over by National Guard vehicle

Your link:

"The shock announcement led to mass protests across the capital and one video shows a Venezuelan National Guard vehicle running over anti-Maduro protesters outside of the military base.

"The protesters could be seen throwing rocks at the vehicles before one drove into the crowd of civilians.

"It is unknown whether the incident caused any injuries."

btw, the Gutless Prick's on your side.

B. Janine Morison - Impeach Trump on Twitter

Now we know why Trump's brother was an alcoholic & died young; he had to put up with Donald's shit ..........

 

[georgephillip]

"John Bolton doesn’t serve up any mush about 'democracy ' or 'human rights' in selling the U.S. war against Venezuela. Trump’s national security advisor told the Fox Business Network on Jan. 24 the real reason for the hostilities:

'"It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies really invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela.'

"In other words, it’s all about oil profits."

John Bolton and the Monroe Doctrine

I don't give a crap about John Bolton. There is no war over Venezuela and their oil.

I care about your pathetic attempt at misdirection (bringing up 1908 when this very day in the streets of Venezuela people are being crushed by armored vehicles and murdered by Meduro's thugs).

I will congratulate you though for getting through one entire post without mentioning Trump and your lies about him.

Never Underestimate Trump
Russia ready for WAR with US over Venezuela as regional tensions SOAR to new heights

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

/——/ The kind hearted socialists are running down the evil freedom seekers with military trucks. Venezuela uprising turns violent after military armored vehicle plows into crowd of opposition supporters

They have to. It's pains them so much to see starving people being shot and beaten down by Meduro thugs they are putting people out of their misery out of the goodness of their hearts.

 

[georgephillip]

Is Juan Guaido the latest "Catfish" in Venezuela?

"Later, during the Dutch-Venezuelan crisis of 1908, the US Navy helped Venezuelan Vice President Juan Vicente Gómez seize power in a coup. Gómez, known as 'The Catfish,' would rule the country either directly or through puppet presidents, until his death in 1935.

"His regime was one of inconceivably medieval brutality.

"His enforcers were fond of shackling political prisoners in grillos, leg irons that rendered many victims permanently disabled — and those were the 'lucky' ones.

"The unlucky ones were hanged to death by meathooks through their throats or testicles."

That's all well land good, what happened in 1908, but today (literally today) in 2019, the forces of authoritarian dictator Mediuro are running down people on the street and shooting them on sight.
Of course we know about the rampant starvation that causes people to eat zoo animals.


Why sort of gutless amoral prick would try to give cover to Meduro? You, it looks like.
Venezuela in CHAOS: Shocking video shows protesters run over by National Guard vehicle

Why sort of gutless amoral prick would try to give cover to Meduro? You, it looks like.
Venezuela in CHAOS: Shocking video shows protesters run over by National Guard vehicle

Your link:

"The shock announcement led to mass protests across the capital and one video shows a Venezuelan National Guard vehicle running over anti-Maduro protesters outside of the military base.

"The protesters could be seen throwing rocks at the vehicles before one drove into the crowd of civilians.

"It is unknown whether the incident caused any injuries."

btw, the Gutless Prick's on your side.

B. Janine Morison - Impeach Trump on Twitter

Now we know why Trump's brother was an alcoholic & died young; he had to put up with Donald's shit ..........

Now we know why Trump's brother was an alcoholic & died young; he had to put up with Donald's shit ..........

And this country got off easy with Dim-wit Donnie in the White House.
Imagine if his older sister had gone into politics?
Maryanne Trump Barry Runs Away Retires Just As Things Get Interesting — See Also | Above the Law

 

[caddo kid]

Now we know why Trump's brother was an alcoholic & died young; he had to put up with Donald's shit ..........

Like how your mom died because of you?

go read the rules; my family members are none of your business U fuck face bitch