Something is happening in Venezuela

[CrusaderFrank]

Venezuela is a sovereign nation just as the US is; do you believe the US would allow a POTUS election to be dictated by some dumbass group that has no binding powers over US national elections? LOFL ............ haha ............

Keep sucking that dictator dick, you commie cum bucket.

So, instead of producing a valid argument, you just troll, troll, troll, your boat.

You have no valid argument, and you never will have a valid argument.

You have never had a valid point on this board to mandate a valid argument in return.

So, you support violent insurrections & coups in other nations BUT not in the US.

Yes, that sounds very conservative & I'm sure you claim to be 'conservative.'

Would you support a coup in North Korea or not?

Do you believe people have the inherent right to revolt if they determine the government they live under is tyranical?

Why would I support a violent insurrection in the US at the current time? We have a valid elected government at all levels.

I may despise my local government, but it is not invalid.

North Korea: No guns, No Crime (Except those committed by government) National healthcare, no carbon footprint, it's a fucking Progressive Paradise!

 

[caddo kid]

Change is hard, I hope the best for the Venezualan people. They are tough, they should do ok.

How many regimes have we seen the US Government involved in toppling over the course of the past several decades, and how has that worked out for all parties involved?

It is not the function of the US Government to initiate, nor to support coups but we have certainly done so, on many occasion.

The US keeps putting it's nose in everyone else's business, like it's our business, when it is NOT our business, and we can NOT even keep our own shit straight within our own nation.

LOFL .......... what a fucking train wreck this nation has become ...............

wtf are you railing about?
the usa didn't start this
how can you possibly be arguing(without taking sides)the best for those people?
that is what you are doing

It's the Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Please demonstrate where I said a thing about Trump in that post. Right; you can not.
The context of that post covers several decades.

Take your, "Trump Derangement Syndrome" and shove it squarely up your ass.

STFU you deranged Communist Muppet Troll Boi.

We are discussing the situation in Venezuela in the thread.

If you can't contribute something with some content, and all you want to do is troll, then you should just go fuck yourself.

 

[percysunshine]

Some calling it a coup. From what I have seen it's a protest going on, and growing.

BREAKING: Juan Guaidó Launches Military Uprising in Venezuela Against Socialist Maduro

Live: Attempted coup underway in Venezuela - CNN

Now the question of it being a coup depends on who you think is actually in power under the Venezuelan Constitution, and which version of the Constitution one thinks is valid.

It's going to be a mess, regardless, if this is actually what is happening.

I was at the gym this morning doing my cardio workout & this Venezuela thing was ALL OVER Faux Nuwz, CNN, MSNBC, you name it, etc., everything.

It was showing the so called 'attempted coup' in Venezuela is being supported by the US, and it demonstrated some quotes from VP Mike Pence verbalizing his support for the coup.

Now this is funny; not funny haha but funny weird. I thought Trump & all the Republicans were totally against coups; they have been saying for months that Trump was fighting a coup & now they are saying Trump survived an attempted coup.
Now it's all good if it happens in Venezuela? LOFL .............
I wish these assholes would get on one side of the issue & stop playing their bullshit.

“There is nothing wrong with a little shooting, as long as all the right people get shot” ... famous Dirty Harry quote.

Yup and I can honestly say I couldn't give shit one about what happens in Venezuela.

They can all kill themselves for all I care.

Agreed. Any government & people should have the ability to chart their own course without interference from the US, or from any other nation.

How do you do that?

Flip from a complete liberal retard into a Republican in, like, five seconds?

 

[caddo kid]

Venezuela is a sovereign nation just as the US is; do you believe the US would allow a POTUS election to be dictated by some dumbass group that has no binding powers over US national elections? LOFL ............ haha ............

Keep sucking that dictator dick, you commie cum bucket.

So, instead of producing a valid argument, you just troll, troll, troll, your boat.

You have no valid argument, and you never will have a valid argument.

You have never had a valid point on this board to mandate a valid argument in return.

So, you support violent insurrections & coups in other nations BUT not in the US.

Yes, that sounds very conservative & I'm sure you claim to be 'conservative.'

Would you support a coup in North Korea or not?

Do you believe people have the inherent right to revolt if they determine the government they live under is tyranical?

Why would I support a violent insurrection in the US at the current time? We have a valid elected government at all levels.

I may despise my local government, but it is not invalid.

If the NoKo people want to perform a coup that is their business but it is not the business of teh US Government to be involved.

Yes.

 

[martybegan]

Keep sucking that dictator dick, you commie cum bucket.

So, instead of producing a valid argument, you just troll, troll, troll, your boat.

You have no valid argument, and you never will have a valid argument.

You have never had a valid point on this board to mandate a valid argument in return.

So, you support violent insurrections & coups in other nations BUT not in the US.

Yes, that sounds very conservative & I'm sure you claim to be 'conservative.'

Would you support a coup in North Korea or not?

Do you believe people have the inherent right to revolt if they determine the government they live under is tyranical?

Why would I support a violent insurrection in the US at the current time? We have a valid elected government at all levels.

I may despise my local government, but it is not invalid.

If the NoKo people want to perform a coup that is their business but it is not the business of teh US Government to be involved.

Yes.

Actually it would be because any Coup that happened would directly impact South Korea, and we are bound by treaty to defend South Korea.

Do you believe that in the current situation in the United States you would be justified to take up arms against the government?

 

[caddo kid]

Venezuela is a sovereign nation just as the US is; do you believe the US would allow a POTUS election to be dictated by some dumbass group that has no binding powers over US national elections? LOFL ............ haha ............

Keep sucking that dictator dick, you commie cum bucket.

So, instead of producing a valid argument, you just troll, troll, troll, your boat.

You have no valid argument, and you never will have a valid argument.

You have never had a valid point on this board to mandate a valid argument in return.

So, you support violent insurrections & coups in other nations BUT not in the US.

Yes, that sounds very conservative & I'm sure you claim to be 'conservative.'

so far the only documennted violence is the military against unarmed protesters.

It looks like the person that was not a candidate during the last election, Guaido, is the one directing civilians & others to create chaos, and Guaido is actively supporting treasonous insurrection against the Venezuelan Government.

 

[JimBowie1958]

It's going to be a mess, regardless, if this is actually what is happening.

Alas, it's the onlyy way to unseat a Social "Democrat" government.

Bullshit, the opposition is led by a Social Democrat supported by the Socialist International, the dictator Maduro is a MARXIST, and there is a huge difference, dude.

 

[percysunshine]

I am guessing oil prices go up over this.

That unfortunately is the down side to this, that fuel across the world is going to cost more.

Pfft...oil prices will go down if Venezuela can eject the Socialists and get back to free markets.

 

[caddo kid]

Some calling it a coup. From what I have seen it's a protest going on, and growing.

BREAKING: Juan Guaidó Launches Military Uprising in Venezuela Against Socialist Maduro

Live: Attempted coup underway in Venezuela - CNN

Now the question of it being a coup depends on who you think is actually in power under the Venezuelan Constitution, and which version of the Constitution one thinks is valid.

It's going to be a mess, regardless, if this is actually what is happening.

I was at the gym this morning doing my cardio workout & this Venezuela thing was ALL OVER Faux Nuwz, CNN, MSNBC, you name it, etc., everything.

It was showing the so called 'attempted coup' in Venezuela is being supported by the US, and it demonstrated some quotes from VP Mike Pence verbalizing his support for the coup.

Now this is funny; not funny haha but funny weird. I thought Trump & all the Republicans were totally against coups; they have been saying for months that Trump was fighting a coup & now they are saying Trump survived an attempted coup.
Now it's all good if it happens in Venezuela? LOFL .............
I wish these assholes would get on one side of the issue & stop playing their bullshit.

“There is nothing wrong with a little shooting, as long as all the right people get shot” ... famous Dirty Harry quote.

Yup and I can honestly say I couldn't give shit one about what happens in Venezuela.

They can all kill themselves for all I care.

Agreed. Any government & people should have the ability to chart their own course without interference from the US, or from any other nation.

How do you do that?

Flip from a complete liberal retard into a Republican in, like, five seconds?

Any people have the power to chart their own destiny but it is not the place of the US to be initiating, nor supporting coups.

That is pretty straight forward stuff.

Something you don't get about that?

 

[caddo kid]

So, instead of producing a valid argument, you just troll, troll, troll, your boat.

You have no valid argument, and you never will have a valid argument.

You have never had a valid point on this board to mandate a valid argument in return.

So, you support violent insurrections & coups in other nations BUT not in the US.

Yes, that sounds very conservative & I'm sure you claim to be 'conservative.'

Would you support a coup in North Korea or not?

Do you believe people have the inherent right to revolt if they determine the government they live under is tyranical?

Why would I support a violent insurrection in the US at the current time? We have a valid elected government at all levels.

I may despise my local government, but it is not invalid.

If the NoKo people want to perform a coup that is their business but it is not the business of teh US Government to be involved.

Yes.

Actually it would be because any Coup that happened would directly impact South Korea, and we are bound by treaty to defend South Korea.

Do you believe that in the current situation in the United States you would be justified to take up arms against the government?

(1) I disagree

(2) LOFL ......... what an asinine question ..........

 

[percysunshine]

I was at the gym this morning doing my cardio workout & this Venezuela thing was ALL OVER Faux Nuwz, CNN, MSNBC, you name it, etc., everything.

It was showing the so called 'attempted coup' in Venezuela is being supported by the US, and it demonstrated some quotes from VP Mike Pence verbalizing his support for the coup.

Now this is funny; not funny haha but funny weird. I thought Trump & all the Republicans were totally against coups; they have been saying for months that Trump was fighting a coup & now they are saying Trump survived an attempted coup.
Now it's all good if it happens in Venezuela? LOFL .............
I wish these assholes would get on one side of the issue & stop playing their bullshit.

“There is nothing wrong with a little shooting, as long as all the right people get shot” ... famous Dirty Harry quote.

Yup and I can honestly say I couldn't give shit one about what happens in Venezuela.

They can all kill themselves for all I care.

Agreed. Any government & people should have the ability to chart their own course without interference from the US, or from any other nation.

How do you do that?

Flip from a complete liberal retard into a Republican in, like, five seconds?

Any people have the power to chart their own destiny but it is not the place of the US to be initiating, nor supporting coups.

That is pretty straight forward stuff.

Something you don't get about that?

Presumably you include people living in the US to be free to chart their own course without interference from the US government.

 

[Toro]

I was at the gym this morning doing my cardio workout & this Venezuela thing was ALL OVER Faux Nuwz, CNN, MSNBC, you name it, etc., everything.

It was showing the so called 'attempted coup' in Venezuela is being supported by the US, and it demonstrated some quotes from VP Mike Pence verbalizing his support for the coup.

Now this is funny; not funny haha but funny weird. I thought Trump & all the Republicans were totally against coups; they have been saying for months that Trump was fighting a coup & now they are saying Trump survived an attempted coup.
Now it's all good if it happens in Venezuela.
I wish these assholes would get on one side of the issue & stop playing their bullshit.

Comparing the attempted surreptitious coup engineered by Obama holdovers in the FBI, DOJ and the intelligence community to what is going on in Venezuela under the Marxist dictator Nicolas Meduro, as if they are all the same (a coup is a coup)?
As if it's intellectually inconsistent to be against removing the legally elected president of the United States of America by illegal means but for removing the brutal authoritarian dictator of a failed repressive socialist state like Venezuela?
Is there something we have missed about people starving in Venezuela and being murdered in the streets by Meduro goons?

Do more cardio...I think your brain is oxygen deprived.

Maduro was elected with 67.8% of the vote total.

Yes, in an election that the US, the EU, and most of the OAS refused to recognize due to opposition leaders being declared ineligible, the rump legislature made up by Maduro calling for the election unconstitutionally, and widespread accusations of fraud.

Venezuela is a sovereign nation just as the US is; do you believe the US would allow a POTUS election to be dictated by some dumbass group that has no binding powers over US national elections? LOFL ............ haha ............

The OAS, EU and US are “dumbass groups?”

They aren’t dictating anything. They are pointing out that the election is fraudulent.

Guiado is President of the National Assembly. And him calling for an uprising is the VZ people sorting this out.

 

[ozro]

apn is reporting this:

The ambassador to Washington representing Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaidó says the U.S. played no role in coordinating the uprising in Caracas against President Nicolás Maduro.

 

[Meathead]

It's going to be a mess, regardless, if this is actually what is happening.

Alas, it's the onlyy way to unseat a Social "Democrat" government.

Bullshit, the opposition is led by a Social Democrat supported by the Socialist International, the dictator Maduro is a MARXIST, and there is a huge difference, dude.

Are you drunk ... or ... something ?

 

[Toro]

Some calling it a coup. From what I have seen it's a protest going on, and growing.

BREAKING: Juan Guaidó Launches Military Uprising in Venezuela Against Socialist Maduro

Live: Attempted coup underway in Venezuela - CNN

Now the question of it being a coup depends on who you think is actually in power under the Venezuelan Constitution, and which version of the Constitution one thinks is valid.

It's going to be a mess, regardless, if this is actually what is happening.

I was at the gym this morning doing my cardio workout & this Venezuela thing was ALL OVER Faux Nuwz, CNN, MSNBC, you name it, etc., everything.

It was showing the so called 'attempted coup' in Venezuela is being supported by the US, and it demonstrated some quotes from VP Mike Pence verbalizing his support for the coup.

Now this is funny; not funny haha but funny weird. I thought Trump & all the Republicans were totally against coups; they have been saying for months that Trump was fighting a coup & now they are saying Trump survived an attempted coup.
Now it's all good if it happens in Venezuela? LOFL .............
I wish these assholes would get on one side of the issue & stop playing their bullshit.

“There is nothing wrong with a little shooting, as long as all the right people get shot” ... famous Dirty Harry quote.

Yup and I can honestly say I couldn't give shit one about what happens in Venezuela.

They can all kill themselves for all I care.

Agreed. Any government & people should have the ability to chart their own course without interference from the US, or from any other nation.

Cuba has had military advisers in Venezuela for years. They’ve been assisting Chavez and Maduro dismantling VZ democratic institutions and assisting the security services and military. .

 

[caddo kid]

I was at the gym this morning doing my cardio workout & this Venezuela thing was ALL OVER Faux Nuwz, CNN, MSNBC, you name it, etc., everything.

It was showing the so called 'attempted coup' in Venezuela is being supported by the US, and it demonstrated some quotes from VP Mike Pence verbalizing his support for the coup.

Now this is funny; not funny haha but funny weird. I thought Trump & all the Republicans were totally against coups; they have been saying for months that Trump was fighting a coup & now they are saying Trump survived an attempted coup.
Now it's all good if it happens in Venezuela.
I wish these assholes would get on one side of the issue & stop playing their bullshit.

Comparing the attempted surreptitious coup engineered by Obama holdovers in the FBI, DOJ and the intelligence community to what is going on in Venezuela under the Marxist dictator Nicolas Meduro, as if they are all the same (a coup is a coup)?
As if it's intellectually inconsistent to be against removing the legally elected president of the United States of America by illegal means but for removing the brutal authoritarian dictator of a failed repressive socialist state like Venezuela?
Is there something we have missed about people starving in Venezuela and being murdered in the streets by Meduro goons?

Do more cardio...I think your brain is oxygen deprived.

Maduro was elected with 67.8% of the vote total.

Yes, in an election that the US, the EU, and most of the OAS refused to recognize due to opposition leaders being declared ineligible, the rump legislature made up by Maduro calling for the election unconstitutionally, and widespread accusations of fraud.

Venezuela is a sovereign nation just as the US is; do you believe the US would allow a POTUS election to be dictated by some dumbass group that has no binding powers over US national elections? LOFL ............ haha ............

The OAS, EU and US are “dumbass groups?”

They aren’t dictating anything. They are pointing out that the election is fraudulent.

Guiado is President of the National Assembly. And him calling for an uprising is the VZ people sorting this out.

I hear folks (mostly right leaning, conservative, GOP) here at USMB all the time discussing the sovereignty of the US & how the US should never allow any organization, and/or treaty to dictate what we do here in the US; groups like the UN, ICC, UNFCCC, NAFTA, TPNW, etc., you name it.

So, if what is good for the goose is good for the gander then why should any nation kowtow to any other nation, group, agreement, treaty, etc., you name it?

The OAS, the EU, and the US have no binding power in relation to any sovereign government, and they shouldn't but then we come across shit like the 2003 Bush/Iraq War; the clusterfuck that deposed a government in response to 9/11 & non existant WMDs.

Yes, these groups can be as useless as a condom full of pin holes .............

 

[percysunshine]

Some calling it a coup. From what I have seen it's a protest going on, and growing.

BREAKING: Juan Guaidó Launches Military Uprising in Venezuela Against Socialist Maduro

Live: Attempted coup underway in Venezuela - CNN

Now the question of it being a coup depends on who you think is actually in power under the Venezuelan Constitution, and which version of the Constitution one thinks is valid.

It's going to be a mess, regardless, if this is actually what is happening.

I was at the gym this morning doing my cardio workout & this Venezuela thing was ALL OVER Faux Nuwz, CNN, MSNBC, you name it, etc., everything.

It was showing the so called 'attempted coup' in Venezuela is being supported by the US, and it demonstrated some quotes from VP Mike Pence verbalizing his support for the coup.

Now this is funny; not funny haha but funny weird. I thought Trump & all the Republicans were totally against coups; they have been saying for months that Trump was fighting a coup & now they are saying Trump survived an attempted coup.
Now it's all good if it happens in Venezuela? LOFL .............
I wish these assholes would get on one side of the issue & stop playing their bullshit.

“There is nothing wrong with a little shooting, as long as all the right people get shot” ... famous Dirty Harry quote.

Yup and I can honestly say I couldn't give shit one about what happens in Venezuela.

They can all kill themselves for all I care.

Agreed. Any government & people should have the ability to chart their own course without interference from the US, or from any other nation.

Cuba has had military advisers in Venezuela for years. They’ve been assisting Chavez and Maduro dismantling VZ democratic institutions for years.

The Russians just flew in a couple hundred special forces....what a coincidence...

 

[caddo kid]

Some calling it a coup. From what I have seen it's a protest going on, and growing.

BREAKING: Juan Guaidó Launches Military Uprising in Venezuela Against Socialist Maduro

Live: Attempted coup underway in Venezuela - CNN

Now the question of it being a coup depends on who you think is actually in power under the Venezuelan Constitution, and which version of the Constitution one thinks is valid.

It's going to be a mess, regardless, if this is actually what is happening.

I was at the gym this morning doing my cardio workout & this Venezuela thing was ALL OVER Faux Nuwz, CNN, MSNBC, you name it, etc., everything.

It was showing the so called 'attempted coup' in Venezuela is being supported by the US, and it demonstrated some quotes from VP Mike Pence verbalizing his support for the coup.

Now this is funny; not funny haha but funny weird. I thought Trump & all the Republicans were totally against coups; they have been saying for months that Trump was fighting a coup & now they are saying Trump survived an attempted coup.
Now it's all good if it happens in Venezuela? LOFL .............
I wish these assholes would get on one side of the issue & stop playing their bullshit.

“There is nothing wrong with a little shooting, as long as all the right people get shot” ... famous Dirty Harry quote.

Yup and I can honestly say I couldn't give shit one about what happens in Venezuela.

They can all kill themselves for all I care.

Agreed. Any government & people should have the ability to chart their own course without interference from the US, or from any other nation.

Cuba has had military advisers in Venezuela for years. They’ve been assisting Chavez and Maduro dismantling VZ democratic institutions for years.

So, big deal; that is their business.

The US tried & FAILED at deposing the Castro government.

Why are you so afraid?

We tried & FAILED in Vietnam; we lost between 50K & 60K US troops in that clusterfuck, tens of thousands maimed for life, and what did we get from that?

Oh yes; we got our ass kicked. Vietnam is (now) such a threat; I'm scared.

 

[Toro]

Keep sucking that dictator dick, you commie cum bucket.

So, instead of producing a valid argument, you just troll, troll, troll, your boat.

You have no valid argument, and you never will have a valid argument.

You have never had a valid point on this board to mandate a valid argument in return.

So, you support violent insurrections & coups in other nations BUT not in the US.

Yes, that sounds very conservative & I'm sure you claim to be 'conservative.'

so far the only documennted violence is the military against unarmed protesters.

It looks like the person that was not a candidate during the last election, Guaido, is the one directing civilians & others to create chaos, and Guaido is actively supporting treasonous insurrection against the Venezuelan Government.

Guiado is the equivalent of the Speaker of the House, who is third in line for the Presidency. If something happens to the President and VP, the Speaker becomes President, even if she didn’t run for President. Because the President of VZ was fraudulently elected, he has legitimacy to become President. In fact, he is calling himself interim President and will hold free elections after he is installed.

 

[Toro]

I was at the gym this morning doing my cardio workout & this Venezuela thing was ALL OVER Faux Nuwz, CNN, MSNBC, you name it, etc., everything.

It was showing the so called 'attempted coup' in Venezuela is being supported by the US, and it demonstrated some quotes from VP Mike Pence verbalizing his support for the coup.

Now this is funny; not funny haha but funny weird. I thought Trump & all the Republicans were totally against coups; they have been saying for months that Trump was fighting a coup & now they are saying Trump survived an attempted coup.
Now it's all good if it happens in Venezuela? LOFL .............
I wish these assholes would get on one side of the issue & stop playing their bullshit.

“There is nothing wrong with a little shooting, as long as all the right people get shot” ... famous Dirty Harry quote.

Yup and I can honestly say I couldn't give shit one about what happens in Venezuela.

They can all kill themselves for all I care.

Agreed. Any government & people should have the ability to chart their own course without interference from the US, or from any other nation.

Cuba has had military advisers in Venezuela for years. They’ve been assisting Chavez and Maduro dismantling VZ democratic institutions for years.

So, big deal; that is their business.

The US tried & FAILED at deposing the Castro government.

Why are you so afraid?

We tried & FAILED in Vietnam; we lost between 50K & 60K US troops in that clusterfuck, tens of thousands maimed for life, and what did we get from that?

Oh yes; we got our ass kicked. Vietnam is (now) such a threat; I'm scared.

You said earlier that the US has overthrown many governments, now you’re arguing that we are bad at it? Which is it?

Besides, this is Guiado doing this. Why don’t you want the VZ people to sort this out? Why are you afraid?