SOmeone Tell the Air Force this is same as doing nothing

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Suicides among active enlisted highest in the Air Force.

Snowflakes.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

At the first sign of war which will be airbases burning. It's a non policy policy.

I think it's time to hear from the guys that actually practiced the mobility or bugout of the bases.

There is no "First Strike at a Minutes Notice" going to happen by anyone. it's going to take time to reprogram the missiles (target them), assemble forces, etc.. Think of days, not hours or minutes. While you are doing this, the other side isn't sitting idly by. They have people watching us and we have people watching them. As they progress closer to actually launching, before that, we have already loaded up our nukes, reprogrammed out missiles and warheads and started getting ready for the mobility. The closer it gets, the more the bugout gets to starting. At the last minute, the prepositioned pallets and personnel are loaded up and the move starts. This is done before the bombers and tankers launch. When they launch, a certain number of key personnel will bug out and literally move to another location for recovery or sustainability purposes. The Joke was the new home would be some corn field in Kansas. Of course, it would be in a real corn field. Chances are, it might be a civilian air strip somewhere else. The other side can't hit ALL the available air fields. That is going to be your new home. The base you left will probably be cinders. But you can recover and possibly relaunch Tankers and Bombers if need be. You will also have fully function Medical Facilities, security, etc.. It makes sure that the Military will still exist after the initial blasts. It also means that the Civilians will be able to rely on the Military for a lot of things to help keep their lives from going to crap. And the US Government will continue regardless.

You may not think this is important but it's damned important "The Day After".

Riiighhhttttt…..….. funny how many has US pulled off, no warning ……

You really have no idea just how hard it is to start a full blown Nuclear Exchange. It's designed today so that there can be no sneak attacks by either side. We have monitors and they have monitors. And then there are the spies up the ying yang by both sides. The Generals can't take a crap without the other side knowing how many squares he used of toilet paper. You have been watching way too many movies.

Nuke......Why would you need nukes to take out an airbase...…..wtf

And just how are you going to take out major Air Force Operational Bases? And how are you going to take out the stateside bases with the fighters, bombers and supplies to resupply lost inventory as a war goes on in Europe? There is only one sure fired way. You drop a nice nuke package and it's done.

You drop a nuke package and the world ends after a nuclear winter.

 

[Silver Cat]

I think it's time to hear from the guys that actually practiced the mobility or bugout of the bases.

There is no "First Strike at a Minutes Notice" going to happen by anyone. it's going to take time to reprogram the missiles (target them), assemble forces, etc.. Think of days, not hours or minutes. While you are doing this, the other side isn't sitting idly by. They have people watching us and we have people watching them. As they progress closer to actually launching, before that, we have already loaded up our nukes, reprogrammed out missiles and warheads and started getting ready for the mobility. The closer it gets, the more the bugout gets to starting. At the last minute, the prepositioned pallets and personnel are loaded up and the move starts. This is done before the bombers and tankers launch. When they launch, a certain number of key personnel will bug out and literally move to another location for recovery or sustainability purposes. The Joke was the new home would be some corn field in Kansas. Of course, it would be in a real corn field. Chances are, it might be a civilian air strip somewhere else. The other side can't hit ALL the available air fields. That is going to be your new home. The base you left will probably be cinders. But you can recover and possibly relaunch Tankers and Bombers if need be. You will also have fully function Medical Facilities, security, etc.. It makes sure that the Military will still exist after the initial blasts. It also means that the Civilians will be able to rely on the Military for a lot of things to help keep their lives from going to crap. And the US Government will continue regardless.

You may not think this is important but it's damned important "The Day After".

Riiighhhttttt…..….. funny how many has US pulled off, no warning ……

You really have no idea just how hard it is to start a full blown Nuclear Exchange. It's designed today so that there can be no sneak attacks by either side. We have monitors and they have monitors. And then there are the spies up the ying yang by both sides. The Generals can't take a crap without the other side knowing how many squares he used of toilet paper. You have been watching way too many movies.

Nuke......Why would you need nukes to take out an airbase...…..wtf

And just how are you going to take out major Air Force Operational Bases? And how are you going to take out the stateside bases with the fighters, bombers and supplies to resupply lost inventory as a war goes on in Europe? There is only one sure fired way. You drop a nice nuke package and it's done.

You drop a nuke package and the world ends after a nuclear winter.

Nucleophobia detected.
First: "Nuclear winter" theory is a fake. In fact there can be "nuclear summer" as well.
Second: Even a year without summer/winter does not mean "the world end".

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Riiighhhttttt…..….. funny how many has US pulled off, no warning ……

You really have no idea just how hard it is to start a full blown Nuclear Exchange. It's designed today so that there can be no sneak attacks by either side. We have monitors and they have monitors. And then there are the spies up the ying yang by both sides. The Generals can't take a crap without the other side knowing how many squares he used of toilet paper. You have been watching way too many movies.

Nuke......Why would you need nukes to take out an airbase...…..wtf

And just how are you going to take out major Air Force Operational Bases? And how are you going to take out the stateside bases with the fighters, bombers and supplies to resupply lost inventory as a war goes on in Europe? There is only one sure fired way. You drop a nice nuke package and it's done.

You drop a nuke package and the world ends after a nuclear winter.

Nucleophobia detected.
First: "Nuclear winter" theory is a fake. In fact there can be "nuclear summer" as well.
Second: Even a year without summer/winter does not mean "the world end".

See Krakatoa.

 

[Silver Cat]

You really have no idea just how hard it is to start a full blown Nuclear Exchange. It's designed today so that there can be no sneak attacks by either side. We have monitors and they have monitors. And then there are the spies up the ying yang by both sides. The Generals can't take a crap without the other side knowing how many squares he used of toilet paper. You have been watching way too many movies.

Nuke......Why would you need nukes to take out an airbase...…..wtf

And just how are you going to take out major Air Force Operational Bases? And how are you going to take out the stateside bases with the fighters, bombers and supplies to resupply lost inventory as a war goes on in Europe? There is only one sure fired way. You drop a nice nuke package and it's done.

You drop a nuke package and the world ends after a nuclear winter.

Nucleophobia detected.
First: "Nuclear winter" theory is a fake. In fact there can be "nuclear summer" as well.
Second: Even a year without summer/winter does not mean "the world end".

See Krakatoa.

So what? There was an erruption in 1883 with total energy 100-200 Mt. There was a cold year after it, but not so cold as 1816. Human civilisation was not terminated, was not even significally harmed.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nuke......Why would you need nukes to take out an airbase...…..wtf

And just how are you going to take out major Air Force Operational Bases? And how are you going to take out the stateside bases with the fighters, bombers and supplies to resupply lost inventory as a war goes on in Europe? There is only one sure fired way. You drop a nice nuke package and it's done.

You drop a nuke package and the world ends after a nuclear winter.

Nucleophobia detected.
First: "Nuclear winter" theory is a fake. In fact there can be "nuclear summer" as well.
Second: Even a year without summer/winter does not mean "the world end".

See Krakatoa.

So what? There was an erruption in 1883 with total energy 100-200 Mt. There was a cold year after it, but not so cold as 1816. Human civilisation was not terminated, was not even significally harmed.

Now, multiply that by a factor of a thousand.

 

[Silver Cat]

And just how are you going to take out major Air Force Operational Bases? And how are you going to take out the stateside bases with the fighters, bombers and supplies to resupply lost inventory as a war goes on in Europe? There is only one sure fired way. You drop a nice nuke package and it's done.

You drop a nuke package and the world ends after a nuclear winter.

Nucleophobia detected.
First: "Nuclear winter" theory is a fake. In fact there can be "nuclear summer" as well.
Second: Even a year without summer/winter does not mean "the world end".

See Krakatoa.

So what? There was an erruption in 1883 with total energy 100-200 Mt. There was a cold year after it, but not so cold as 1816. Human civilisation was not terminated, was not even significally harmed.

Now, multiply that by a factor of a thousand.

Why? 200-500 Mt is one warhead of "Poseidon" torpedo. Even in the pessimistic scenario the Russians will have "Belgorod" and "Khabarovsk" (with six Poseidons each) at the end of this year. It means only 12 Krakatoas. Plus one 3-7Gt Santorini eruption for all strategic warheads.
May be, it is seriouse in the time of peace, but after a full-scale nuclear exchange, you know, climate change will be the last thing that we should worry about.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You drop a nuke package and the world ends after a nuclear winter.

Nucleophobia detected.
First: "Nuclear winter" theory is a fake. In fact there can be "nuclear summer" as well.
Second: Even a year without summer/winter does not mean "the world end".

See Krakatoa.

So what? There was an erruption in 1883 with total energy 100-200 Mt. There was a cold year after it, but not so cold as 1816. Human civilisation was not terminated, was not even significally harmed.

Now, multiply that by a factor of a thousand.

Why? 200-500 Mt is one warhead of "Poseidon" torpedo. Even in the pessimistic scenario the Russians will have "Belgorod" and "Khabarovsk" (with six Poseidons each) at the end of this year. It means only 12 Krakatoas. Plus one 3-7Gt Santorini eruption for all strategic warheads.
May be, it is seriouse in the time of peace, but after a full-scale nuclear exchange, you know, climate change will be the last thing that we should worry about.

In my Navy days I was on the crew of Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarine and later served as a Nuclear Weapons Officer. Pardon my blunt language, but you don't have a fucking clue about what you are discussing and leave it at that.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Has China Been Practicing Preemptive Missile Strikes Against U.S. Bases?

 

[Silver Cat]

Nucleophobia detected.
First: "Nuclear winter" theory is a fake. In fact there can be "nuclear summer" as well.
Second: Even a year without summer/winter does not mean "the world end".

See Krakatoa.

So what? There was an erruption in 1883 with total energy 100-200 Mt. There was a cold year after it, but not so cold as 1816. Human civilisation was not terminated, was not even significally harmed.

Now, multiply that by a factor of a thousand.

Why? 200-500 Mt is one warhead of "Poseidon" torpedo. Even in the pessimistic scenario the Russians will have "Belgorod" and "Khabarovsk" (with six Poseidons each) at the end of this year. It means only 12 Krakatoas. Plus one 3-7Gt Santorini eruption for all strategic warheads.
May be, it is seriouse in the time of peace, but after a full-scale nuclear exchange, you know, climate change will be the last thing that we should worry about.

In my Navy days I was on the crew of Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarine and later served as a Nuclear Weapons Officer. Pardon my blunt language, but you don't have a fucking clue about what you are discussing and leave it at that.

Ha! Its not about your experience. Its about your faith. You are an Environmentalist, aren't you? You believe in The Nuclear Winter, or The Global Warming, or Ozone Hole or any other environmentalistic eschatological nonsence not because of your real practical experience, but because of the environmentalistic propaganda.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

See Krakatoa.

So what? There was an erruption in 1883 with total energy 100-200 Mt. There was a cold year after it, but not so cold as 1816. Human civilisation was not terminated, was not even significally harmed.

Now, multiply that by a factor of a thousand.

Why? 200-500 Mt is one warhead of "Poseidon" torpedo. Even in the pessimistic scenario the Russians will have "Belgorod" and "Khabarovsk" (with six Poseidons each) at the end of this year. It means only 12 Krakatoas. Plus one 3-7Gt Santorini eruption for all strategic warheads.
May be, it is seriouse in the time of peace, but after a full-scale nuclear exchange, you know, climate change will be the last thing that we should worry about.

In my Navy days I was on the crew of Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarine and later served as a Nuclear Weapons Officer. Pardon my blunt language, but you don't have a fucking clue about what you are discussing and leave it at that.

Ha! Its not about your experience. Its about your faith. You are an Environmentalist, aren't you? You believe in The Nuclear Winter, or The Global Warming, or Ozone Hole or any other environmentalistic eschatological nonsence not because of your real practical experience, but because of the environmentalistic propaganda.

Environmentalist? Man, you should pray they don't cancel the Olympics with that leap, you are a shoe-in for any team.

I know what happens when you take your numbers and multiply them by the entire nuclear inventories of the nuclear powers. Once you go nuclear, why stop?

I can see you have lost your argument, now is the time to slink off into obscurity.

 

[Silver Cat]

So what? There was an erruption in 1883 with total energy 100-200 Mt. There was a cold year after it, but not so cold as 1816. Human civilisation was not terminated, was not even significally harmed.

Now, multiply that by a factor of a thousand.

Why? 200-500 Mt is one warhead of "Poseidon" torpedo. Even in the pessimistic scenario the Russians will have "Belgorod" and "Khabarovsk" (with six Poseidons each) at the end of this year. It means only 12 Krakatoas. Plus one 3-7Gt Santorini eruption for all strategic warheads.
May be, it is seriouse in the time of peace, but after a full-scale nuclear exchange, you know, climate change will be the last thing that we should worry about.

In my Navy days I was on the crew of Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarine and later served as a Nuclear Weapons Officer. Pardon my blunt language, but you don't have a fucking clue about what you are discussing and leave it at that.

Ha! Its not about your experience. Its about your faith. You are an Environmentalist, aren't you? You believe in The Nuclear Winter, or The Global Warming, or Ozone Hole or any other environmentalistic eschatological nonsence not because of your real practical experience, but because of the environmentalistic propaganda.

Environmentalist? Man, you should pray they don't cancel the Olympics with that leap, you are a shoe-in for any team.

I know what happens when you take your numbers and multiply them by the entire nuclear inventories of the nuclear powers. Once you go nuclear, why stop?

I can see you have lost your argument, now is the time to slink off into obscurity.

Oh, man... Why anybody should equate 0,5 Mt airburst with 200Mt groundburst? It is stupid.
And even if we do so, 200 Gt is just something like Toba super-erruption. And, according the new studies there were no significant cooling after it.

Toba catastrophe theory - Wikipedia

Physical data contradicting the winter hypothesis
In 2013, archaeologists, led by Christine Lane, reported finding a microscopic layer of glassy volcanic ash in sediments of Lake Malawi, and definitively linked the ash to the 75,000-year-old Toba super-eruption, but found no change in fossil type close to the ash layer, something that would be expected following a severe volcanic winter. They concluded that the largest known volcanic eruption in the history of the human species did not significantly alter the climate of East Africa,[23][24] attracting criticism from Richard Roberts.[25] Lane explained, "We examined smear slides at a 2-mm interval, corresponding to subdecadal resolution, and X-ray fluorescence scans run at 200-µm intervals correspond to subannual resolution. We observed no obvious change in sediment composition or Fe/Ti ratio, suggesting that no thermally driven overturn of the water column occurred following the Toba supereruption."[26] In 2015, a new study on the climate of East Africa supported Lane's conclusion, that there was "no significant cooling associated with Mount Toba".[27]

 

[Silver Cat]

And yes, humanity (at least significant part of the civilisated states) will survive even if the evil aliens had constructed gigantic sunscreen in L1 point and block 100% of sunlight. "Turn-off the Sun" scenario, you know.

 

[HenryBHough]

Suicides among active enlisted highest in the Air Force.

Wow!

What did The Air Force to to piss off Hillary?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Now, multiply that by a factor of a thousand.

Why? 200-500 Mt is one warhead of "Poseidon" torpedo. Even in the pessimistic scenario the Russians will have "Belgorod" and "Khabarovsk" (with six Poseidons each) at the end of this year. It means only 12 Krakatoas. Plus one 3-7Gt Santorini eruption for all strategic warheads.
May be, it is seriouse in the time of peace, but after a full-scale nuclear exchange, you know, climate change will be the last thing that we should worry about.

In my Navy days I was on the crew of Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarine and later served as a Nuclear Weapons Officer. Pardon my blunt language, but you don't have a fucking clue about what you are discussing and leave it at that.

Ha! Its not about your experience. Its about your faith. You are an Environmentalist, aren't you? You believe in The Nuclear Winter, or The Global Warming, or Ozone Hole or any other environmentalistic eschatological nonsence not because of your real practical experience, but because of the environmentalistic propaganda.

Environmentalist? Man, you should pray they don't cancel the Olympics with that leap, you are a shoe-in for any team.

I know what happens when you take your numbers and multiply them by the entire nuclear inventories of the nuclear powers. Once you go nuclear, why stop?

I can see you have lost your argument, now is the time to slink off into obscurity.

Oh, man... Why anybody should equate 0,5 Mt airburst with 200Mt groundburst? It is stupid.
And even if we do so, 200 Gt is just something like Toba super-erruption. And, according the new studies there were no significant cooling after it.

Toba catastrophe theory - Wikipedia

Physical data contradicting the winter hypothesis
In 2013, archaeologists, led by Christine Lane, reported finding a microscopic layer of glassy volcanic ash in sediments of Lake Malawi, and definitively linked the ash to the 75,000-year-old Toba super-eruption, but found no change in fossil type close to the ash layer, something that would be expected following a severe volcanic winter. They concluded that the largest known volcanic eruption in the history of the human species did not significantly alter the climate of East Africa,[23][24] attracting criticism from Richard Roberts.[25] Lane explained, "We examined smear slides at a 2-mm interval, corresponding to subdecadal resolution, and X-ray fluorescence scans run at 200-µm intervals correspond to subannual resolution. We observed no obvious change in sediment composition or Fe/Ti ratio, suggesting that no thermally driven overturn of the water column occurred following the Toba supereruption."[26] In 2015, a new study on the climate of East Africa supported Lane's conclusion, that there was "no significant cooling associated with Mount Toba".[27]

One nuke does not equal one volcano. The problem with your thinking is scale. Reassess your data for a massive world-wide nuclear strike. Too bad you apparently suck at math.

 

[Silver Cat]

Why? 200-500 Mt is one warhead of "Poseidon" torpedo. Even in the pessimistic scenario the Russians will have "Belgorod" and "Khabarovsk" (with six Poseidons each) at the end of this year. It means only 12 Krakatoas. Plus one 3-7Gt Santorini eruption for all strategic warheads.
May be, it is seriouse in the time of peace, but after a full-scale nuclear exchange, you know, climate change will be the last thing that we should worry about.

In my Navy days I was on the crew of Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarine and later served as a Nuclear Weapons Officer. Pardon my blunt language, but you don't have a fucking clue about what you are discussing and leave it at that.

Ha! Its not about your experience. Its about your faith. You are an Environmentalist, aren't you? You believe in The Nuclear Winter, or The Global Warming, or Ozone Hole or any other environmentalistic eschatological nonsence not because of your real practical experience, but because of the environmentalistic propaganda.

Environmentalist? Man, you should pray they don't cancel the Olympics with that leap, you are a shoe-in for any team.

I know what happens when you take your numbers and multiply them by the entire nuclear inventories of the nuclear powers. Once you go nuclear, why stop?

I can see you have lost your argument, now is the time to slink off into obscurity.

Oh, man... Why anybody should equate 0,5 Mt airburst with 200Mt groundburst? It is stupid.
And even if we do so, 200 Gt is just something like Toba super-erruption. And, according the new studies there were no significant cooling after it.

Toba catastrophe theory - Wikipedia

Physical data contradicting the winter hypothesis
In 2013, archaeologists, led by Christine Lane, reported finding a microscopic layer of glassy volcanic ash in sediments of Lake Malawi, and definitively linked the ash to the 75,000-year-old Toba super-eruption, but found no change in fossil type close to the ash layer, something that would be expected following a severe volcanic winter. They concluded that the largest known volcanic eruption in the history of the human species did not significantly alter the climate of East Africa,[23][24] attracting criticism from Richard Roberts.[25] Lane explained, "We examined smear slides at a 2-mm interval, corresponding to subdecadal resolution, and X-ray fluorescence scans run at 200-µm intervals correspond to subannual resolution. We observed no obvious change in sediment composition or Fe/Ti ratio, suggesting that no thermally driven overturn of the water column occurred following the Toba supereruption."[26] In 2015, a new study on the climate of East Africa supported Lane's conclusion, that there was "no significant cooling associated with Mount Toba".[27]

One nuke does not equal one volcano. The problem with your thinking is scale. Reassess your data for a massive world-wide nuclear strike. Too bad you apparently suck at math.

"Tout ce que vous dites dit de vous, et surtout ce que vous dites des autres."
(Everything you say speaks about you, and especially what you say about others.)

Sure, nukes are not equal with volcanoes.
Most of nukes are much weaker than most of volcanoes.
And it was you, who suggested to "see Krakotoa".

 

[rightwinger]

According to Defense News, Air Force units will now head to the hills at the first sign of war, dispersing from their massive bases to local airports, isolated airstrips, any place that can support airplanes. The idea is to use those large bases not to concentrate air power but as a hub to feed dispersed air power, maintaining a steady flow of fuel, ammunition, and food to small detachments of fighters and other warplanes hiding at airfields adversaries may not even know about. U.S. Air Force Air Bases | Why Big Air Bases Are a Big Liability
The first sign of war will be these giant Airbases all burning at once. Speed of missiles these days fired from subs this must have Chinese laughing their ass off

from what I've read, though it is true that our enemies can strike us so quickly we would NOT be able to prevent mass destruction and death......AFTER the US was incinerated by (russia, china, n korea, iran....?)

our remaining forces would STILL be able to destroy the rest of the planet.

MAD.....


The chinese would not have long to laugh

And that is the crux of it.

Even after a first strike, we can destroy the world

 

[Silver Cat]

According to Defense News, Air Force units will now head to the hills at the first sign of war, dispersing from their massive bases to local airports, isolated airstrips, any place that can support airplanes. The idea is to use those large bases not to concentrate air power but as a hub to feed dispersed air power, maintaining a steady flow of fuel, ammunition, and food to small detachments of fighters and other warplanes hiding at airfields adversaries may not even know about. U.S. Air Force Air Bases | Why Big Air Bases Are a Big Liability
The first sign of war will be these giant Airbases all burning at once. Speed of missiles these days fired from subs this must have Chinese laughing their ass off

from what I've read, though it is true that our enemies can strike us so quickly we would NOT be able to prevent mass destruction and death......AFTER the US was incinerated by (russia, china, n korea, iran....?)

our remaining forces would STILL be able to destroy the rest of the planet.

MAD.....


The chinese would not have long to laugh

And that is the crux of it.

Even after a first strike, we can destroy the world

No, we can't. Nobody can. We just don't have enough of nukes for it.

 

[Manonthestreet]

According to Defense News, Air Force units will now head to the hills at the first sign of war, dispersing from their massive bases to local airports, isolated airstrips, any place that can support airplanes. The idea is to use those large bases not to concentrate air power but as a hub to feed dispersed air power, maintaining a steady flow of fuel, ammunition, and food to small detachments of fighters and other warplanes hiding at airfields adversaries may not even know about. U.S. Air Force Air Bases | Why Big Air Bases Are a Big Liability
The first sign of war will be these giant Airbases all burning at once. Speed of missiles these days fired from subs this must have Chinese laughing their ass off

from what I've read, though it is true that our enemies can strike us so quickly we would NOT be able to prevent mass destruction and death......AFTER the US was incinerated by (russia, china, n korea, iran....?)

our remaining forces would STILL be able to destroy the rest of the planet.

MAD.....


The chinese would not have long to laugh

And that is the crux of it.

Even after a first strike, we can destroy the world

You going nuke over a conventiinal strike?

According to Defense News, Air Force units will now head to the hills at the first sign of war, dispersing from their massive bases to local airports, isolated airstrips, any place that can support airplanes. The idea is to use those large bases not to concentrate air power but as a hub to feed dispersed air power, maintaining a steady flow of fuel, ammunition, and food to small detachments of fighters and other warplanes hiding at airfields adversaries may not even know about. U.S. Air Force Air Bases | Why Big Air Bases Are a Big Liability
The first sign of war will be these giant Airbases all burning at once. Speed of missiles these days fired from subs this must have Chinese laughing their ass off

from what I've read, though it is true that our enemies can strike us so quickly we would NOT be able to prevent mass destruction and death......AFTER the US was incinerated by (russia, china, n korea, iran....?)

our remaining forces would STILL be able to destroy the rest of the planet.

MAD.....


The chinese would not have long to laugh

And that is the crux of it.

Even after a first strike, we can destroy the world

This thread isn't about nuke strikes ....stay on topic

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I think it's time to hear from the guys that actually practiced the mobility or bugout of the bases.

There is no "First Strike at a Minutes Notice" going to happen by anyone. it's going to take time to reprogram the missiles (target them), assemble forces, etc.. Think of days, not hours or minutes. While you are doing this, the other side isn't sitting idly by. They have people watching us and we have people watching them. As they progress closer to actually launching, before that, we have already loaded up our nukes, reprogrammed out missiles and warheads and started getting ready for the mobility. The closer it gets, the more the bugout gets to starting. At the last minute, the prepositioned pallets and personnel are loaded up and the move starts. This is done before the bombers and tankers launch. When they launch, a certain number of key personnel will bug out and literally move to another location for recovery or sustainability purposes. The Joke was the new home would be some corn field in Kansas. Of course, it would be in a real corn field. Chances are, it might be a civilian air strip somewhere else. The other side can't hit ALL the available air fields. That is going to be your new home. The base you left will probably be cinders. But you can recover and possibly relaunch Tankers and Bombers if need be. You will also have fully function Medical Facilities, security, etc.. It makes sure that the Military will still exist after the initial blasts. It also means that the Civilians will be able to rely on the Military for a lot of things to help keep their lives from going to crap. And the US Government will continue regardless.

You may not think this is important but it's damned important "The Day After".

Riiighhhttttt…..….. funny how many has US pulled off, no warning ……

You really have no idea just how hard it is to start a full blown Nuclear Exchange. It's designed today so that there can be no sneak attacks by either side. We have monitors and they have monitors. And then there are the spies up the ying yang by both sides. The Generals can't take a crap without the other side knowing how many squares he used of toilet paper. You have been watching way too many movies.

Nuke......Why would you need nukes to take out an airbase...…..wtf

And just how are you going to take out major Air Force Operational Bases? And how are you going to take out the stateside bases with the fighters, bombers and supplies to resupply lost inventory as a war goes on in Europe? There is only one sure fired way. You drop a nice nuke package and it's done.

You drop a nuke package and the world ends after a nuclear winter.

Do you really know what a Nuclear Winter is? Doesn't sound like it. It doesn't end but it certainly changes. For instance

Let's not talk about the "Day After" or the "Day it Happens". Let's look at the long term of 10 to 15 years.


The Temp will drop between 5 to 10 degrees world wide. Places like Canada and Russia lose their grain belts. And even in the US, the grain belt shifts to the south. The Plants that require direct and bright sunlight will not grow so well but alternatives will so a change in diet may take place. The Nuclear Winter is going to last at least a decade before Mother Nature does what Man can't or won't do.

Beef will be in a shortage for the US. But other places may be able to pick up that slack. That means the cost of Beef will increase dramatically. All of a sudden, the high desert places become very fertile because the temp is more ideal. Even the fringes of the Desert will become more productive. So we eat more Chicken and Pork instead which is less affected. And we find ways to harvest fish further south where the Sea Fish will have migrated.

And weaker people are going to die over a period of time. But that is a small percentage.

Life won't end but it's certainly go to be different.