Rustic
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...and health insurance is NOT health care...It has nothing to do with what conservatives may or may not have said. It has to do with reality. Know what that is.? Not -alt reality. REALITY . When people don't have insurance, they don't get preventive care. They get sicker than they would have been, go to the ER-where care is very expensive-and get charity care . They go on disability. They stop paying taxes. They are no longer productive. Who the hell do you thing pays for all of that?The rest of us should not be forced to pay for it when it does happen because you were to irresponsible to plan for it. Don't conservatives constantly bleat about personal responsibility? Do you wait until you have an auto accident to gat auto insurance?No one should be forced to pay for what "might" happen... that is no way to live.Idiocy.
I havent had cancer yet. If I do in the future then the NHS is there for me.
There's a difference between "You should do this" and "We're going to force you to". And since when have conservatives EVER suggested that other people should pick up the tab for someone else's bad choices?
Dear TheProgressivePatriot
Instead of arguing in circles about who ends up paying for what
(not just with health insurance, but what about the costs of crime that taxpayers foot the bill for. What about consequences of smoking pot and who is going to pay for that when we can't even agree what consequences are provable or not!)
Why not set up "separate tracks" so people CAN track the costs of their own policies, ie
A. A separate track for REGISTERED DEMOCRATS, PROCHOICE and/or PROLEGALIZATION advocates to live under and pay their taxes to VOLUNTARILY by ORGANIZING exchanges and coops based on party principles and paid membership on terms and conditions that the actual GROUP members vote on democratically
and accept FULL FINANCIAL AND LEGAL RESPONSIBLITIES for.
B. A separate track for REGISTERED REPUBLICANS and PROLIFE and Anti-Drugs advocates to pay taxes to support.
So instead of arguing back and forth, the group members ACCEPT responsibility REGARDLESS of the cost, and quit imposing on others. If any such policy is unsustainable, the group that advocated that policy has agreed to pay the costs, so it's in that groups "best interest" to pick the most cost-effective consistent policies to pay for.