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I don't think I am being gullible, I read all that I could on the subject, including all of the conservative blogs and fox on this, and you all are the ones that are being played....just read up more on it, pretty please.hmmmmm, really? me thinks you are the one playing dumb on this...the TBuying votes from the dumbmasses.
Obama didn't advertise this measure...he didn't go out and tell all of the people on welfare that he was doing this...they don't even know it.....maybe now they might know about it because of the ruckus and tantrums those in the right wing blogosphere and FOX are reporting on this....so I have no idea why you said what you said, other than just trying to get in a partisan jab.
all he did was respond to the request of the State Governors, both Republican and Democratic alike, who wanted more flexibility to actually get people to work as the program intended. the governors still have to meet most all federal requirements, will still be fined if they don't meet them, and the Governors, if asking for a waiver, have to present their new plan to the Feds, and will be monitored going forward.
There is much more to it....the program's work requirements are not GUTTED, some of the reports and requirements of paperwork, that took the Welfare/social workers away from their primary goal of getting people back to work, now can be modified by the State Governors, with fed approval, so that those working the TANF program can actually spend more time helping those on the program find a job.....and other things that governors feel would work best in their states during this recession.
a WAIVER given, is also a WAIVER that can be taken back.
NONE OF THIS IS PERMANENT.
it shouldn't have been done AT ALL. What part of imperial overreach by this president don't you understand? He is acting outside the Constitution, and should be called out on this an a myriad of thngs.
And remember? the INCOME TAX wasn't supposed to be permanent either.
Sorry Care...I like you...but you're gullible.
But how can the president via HHS or HHS arbitrarily change any law that was voted on by Congress?
What is the point of Congress if Departments are going to grant waivers to their laws?
Where is the authority to overwrite a congressionally-passed law?
Or to amend said law?
Where is the authority to overwrite a congressionally-passed law?
Or to amend said law?
The law allows HHS to grant waivers if the states request them..
So, nope, he's within the law. Sorry.
Where is the authority to overwrite a congressionally-passed law?
Or to amend said law?
The law allows HHS to grant waivers if the states request them..
So, nope, he's within the law. Sorry.
I'd say "Thanks", but do you have something to support that?
The administration said the waiver program is a response to concerns from state officials Republicans as well as Democrats that the work requirements in the law are too rigid and create bureaucratic hurdles to actually placing welfare recipients in jobs. Officials say the program does not violate the underlying law because of a provision that allows waivers of state plans.
In its memo to the states, the administration said no waivers will be allowed that could reduce access to employment, nor will they permit exceptions to time limits on welfare assistance. Waivers can be revoked if the experiments dont work out. Still, a state can seek a waiver to cover its entire welfare population.
As with illegal aliens, we once again see Obozo brazenly ignoring laws passed by congress. He should be impeached for this. The constitution says the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed".
Republicans accuse HHS of gutting welfare reform with quiet policy change | Fox News
Republicans accuse HHS of gutting welfare reform with quiet policy change
Published July 13, 2012
Republicans are accusing the Obama administration of unilaterally gutting welfare reform after the Department of Health and Human Services quietly notified states that they may seek a waiver for the program's strict work requirements.
HHS made the announcement in a policy memo Thursday, news that slipped well below the radar amid a raucous day on the presidential campaign trail. But a few prominent GOP lawmakers on Capitol Hill picked up on the change, and accused the administration of overhauling one of the most important bipartisan agreements of the past several decades.
"President Obama just tore up a basic foundation of the welfare contract" Republican Study Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, D-Ohio, said in a statement. He also called the move a "blatant violation of the law."
Mitt Romney on Friday spoke up on the change, saying: "President Obama now wants to strip the established work requirements from welfare." He said "the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life."
The law allows HHS to grant waivers if the states request them..
So, nope, he's within the law. Sorry.
I'd say "Thanks", but do you have something to support that?
Obama administration proposes welfare-to-work waivers | syracuse.com
You're welcome...The administration said the waiver program is a response to concerns from state officials Republicans as well as Democrats that the work requirements in the law are too rigid and create bureaucratic hurdles to actually placing welfare recipients in jobs. Officials say the program does not violate the underlying law because of a provision that allows waivers of state plans.
In its memo to the states, the administration said no waivers will be allowed that could reduce access to employment, nor will they permit exceptions to time limits on welfare assistance. Waivers can be revoked if the experiments dont work out. Still, a state can seek a waiver to cover its entire welfare population.
In a letter to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, the two lawmakers demanded an explanation, saying the work requirements have remained untouched for 16 years and may not be waived. No other administration ... has ever arrived at the conclusion that TANF work requirements can be waived, said the two lawmakers.
And the Pub Propaganda Machine blares "Socialist Obama ends welfare work requirement", 10 pages of BS orgs, pundits, and websites, and you dupes just love repeating the stupid lies....You unbelievable chumps....
As with illegal aliens, we once again see Obozo brazenly ignoring laws passed by congress. He should be impeached for this. The constitution says the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed".
Republicans accuse HHS of gutting welfare reform with quiet policy change | Fox News
Republicans accuse HHS of gutting welfare reform with quiet policy change
Published July 13, 2012
Republicans are accusing the Obama administration of unilaterally gutting welfare reform after the Department of Health and Human Services quietly notified states that they may seek a waiver for the program's strict work requirements.
HHS made the announcement in a policy memo Thursday, news that slipped well below the radar amid a raucous day on the presidential campaign trail. But a few prominent GOP lawmakers on Capitol Hill picked up on the change, and accused the administration of overhauling one of the most important bipartisan agreements of the past several decades.
"President Obama just tore up a basic foundation of the welfare contract" Republican Study Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, D-Ohio, said in a statement. He also called the move a "blatant violation of the law."
Mitt Romney on Friday spoke up on the change, saying: "President Obama now wants to strip the established work requirements from welfare." He said "the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life."
I'd say "Thanks", but do you have something to support that?
Obama administration proposes welfare-to-work waivers | syracuse.com
You're welcome...
My, my, aren't you selective in your quoting!
You made the rather proud declaration:
**** The law allows HHS to grant waivers if the states request them..
So, nope, he's within the law.****
While, right there, in your own source-link there is this little nugget
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In a letter to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, the two lawmakers demanded an explanation, saying the work requirements have remained untouched for 16 years and may not be waived. No other administration ... has ever arrived at the conclusion that TANF work requirements can be waived, said the two lawmakers.
So, ya see, it was never in the original legislation.
But let's not let a teeny thing like "checks and balances" stop our dear leader from signing his way through any inconvenient law he happens to stumble across.
Need to transition to work-based welfare and prevent those gaming the system.
About 40%-50% of the people on welfare are children I believe I just read, then a good portion of the rest, are their mothers, then there are some seniors.Need to transition to work-based welfare and prevent those gaming the system.
I agree.
But do you know who would scream about that the loudest?
All of the unions that represent governmetn workers.
I'd have no problem having these folks tasked with such work as cleaning up graffitti, picking up trash in parks and along highways, and so on.
Probably include some vocational retraining as part of it to. Of course, part of the problem is that if they learned these schools in primary education, it wouldn't be an issue.
So much for Obama trying to get people employed. he has just flouted the law to keep people on welfare, and make it easier to get on it without working.
As I understand it? What he did was rid the law of the work requirement which is stipulated in the law.
So, now, let's take a look at the language of the bill's text as it pertains to Waivers.They have arrogated to themselves complete control over this program, and they did it through whats essentially foul play, Robert Rector, a nationally known social policy expert with the conservative Heritage Foundation, said Friday. Rector, who helped draft the original legislation, said the administrations move amounted to an end-run around the laws work requirement and therefore violates the law.