Socialism-the BIGGEST plight/failure to this world, EVER.

[HUGGY]

Socialism-the BIGGEST plight/failure to this world, EVER.


I've got a riddle for ya batshitcrazy man... What caused the great depression of the 30's? Socialism or Capitalism? How about the current failure of the US and European Banking system with the "Troubled Assets"..Socialism or Capitalism?

Unless Capitalism is held in check with responsible socialism it is the MOST destructive force in the World!!!

 

[editec]

Economic theories don't kill people.
PEOPLE kill people.​

 

[Retread Ol' 37]

Tally up ALL those killed by the far-left Socialist regimes of Hitler, every regime in the U.S.S.R., Mao, various past Socialist regimes of Latin America. not to mention every war they started. WW2, Vietnam, etc. And you get Satan's own personal masturbatory aid collage.

Count the large number of times Socialism has fallen, been disproven, fell to Capitalism.

Compare of superpower status, usual economic prosperity, and freedom in Capitalist nations of the U.S. and western Europe, to well, anywhere else in the world, including a small, insignificant village in China somewhere.

There is no comparison. This is the main reason why the left must be defeated, and shunned, here, everywhere. It's/they are inherently anti-liberty, freedom, prosperity, individualism, etc.

200+ posts in such a short time and you're just posting easily dismissable douchebag rants?

Here's a hint for you: every time you drink water from the tap, any time you choose to walk on the sidewalk or drive down a paved street, any time you call 9-1-1, and any time you send your kids to a public school... you're using a taxpayer-funded resources that many people are not paying for, since they do not have a significant income, and yet society as a whole would be far worse without.

This is wealth redistribution if people are not paying proportionately to what they use.

And that, here in the america you so love, is socialist.

And your 8-hour work week is a byproduct of socialist activism.

 

[Toro]

The world is not black and white. It is many shades of gray.

I don't want to become like Sweden, but I think many Swedes - and other Scandinavians and Germans for that matter - would strenuously disagree that socialism is the biggest failure ever.

 

[editec]

This silliness of these debates continues.

Imagine that we were debating chemisty and some people insisted that they got to redefine what the elements were.

That is EXACTLY what some of you insist is your right when discussing POLITICAL SCIENCE.

Socialism has a clearly defined meaning.

It's not subject to a vote, these words have meanings that you don't get to redefine to suit your POV.

Socialism exists when the government controls the means of production.

That is ALL it means.

It's not welfare, or a standing military, it's not public roads or edcuation it is the state of affaairs where GOVERMENT OWNS the means of production.

THAT and ONLY THAT is socialism.

 

[Intense]

youre confusing socialist regimes with socialist ideas. we are the US already employ many socialist ideas into our version of democracy.

Social Security
Medicare
Education
Unemployment Insurance
The School Breakfast Program
Disability Insurance
Jails
The VA
Firefighters
Police
USPS

If we were to become a true "free-market" society. none of these programs would exist, and we would have to pay for all of these services.

if that be the case, are we prepared to pay for fire fighters to come to our homes if they are burning, the police to come to our businesses if someone is stealing, the jails to house the criminals of society, the primary education of all of our children?

to eliminate all social programs, would mean yes we may get to keep more of our money in our own pocket on our paycheck, but it would also mean that we would be spending 10 times that in the basic services that our tax provide for.

They would exist in a different form.

 

[Intense]

This silliness of these debates continues.

Imagine that we were debating chemisty and some people insisted that they got to redefine what the elements were.

That is EXACTLY what some of you insist is your right when discussing POLITICAL SCIENCE.

Socialism has a clearly defined meaning.

It's not subject to a vote, these words have meanings that you don't get to redefine to suit your POV.

Socialism exists when the government controls the means of production.

That is ALL it means.

It's not welfare, or a standing military, it's not public roads or edcuation it is the state of affaairs where GOVERMENT OWNS the means of production.

THAT and ONLY THAT is socialism.

Production, Distribution, Use.

 

[rightwinger]

America is Socialist. Always has been ..always will be

It is socialism that allows all American children to receive an education regardless of their ability to pay

It is socialism that provides police and fire protection to all Americans...not just the wealthy

It is socialism that provides public roads and highways that are free to all Americans

It is socialism that ensures Americans will be taken care of when they reach old age, become sick or injured

America is a modern country and the richest country on earth. We can afford to provide basic services to our people. Why would you want to return to third world status?

 

[Neotrotsky]

America is Socialist. Always has been ..always will be

It is socialism that allows all American children to receive an education regardless of their ability to pay

It is socialism that provides police and fire protection to all Americans...not just the wealthy

It is socialism that provides public roads and highways that are free to all Americans

It is socialism that ensures Americans will be taken care of when they reach old age, become sick or injured

America is a modern country and the richest country on earth. We can afford to provide basic services to our people. Why would you want to return to third world status?

From your rather generous and flawed definition of "socialism", it is apparent that you have had a "fine" public school education

 

[AquaAthena]

"Socialism-the BIGGEST plight/failure to this world, EVER."

Yes, although I don't think Vermont senator and self proclaimed Socialist and Jewish Bernie Sanders, would agree.

 

[The T]

Socialism-the BIGGEST plight/failure to this world, EVER.


I've got a riddle for ya batshitcrazy man... What caused the great depression of the 30's? Socialism or Capitalism? How about the current failure of the US and European Banking system with the "Troubled Assets"..Socialism or Capitalism?

Unless Capitalism is held in check with responsible socialism it is the MOST destructive force in the World!!!

Responsible socialism Gracie? How's that working out in Great Britain? France? Greece?

 

[HUGGY]

Socialism-the BIGGEST plight/failure to this world, EVER.


I've got a riddle for ya batshitcrazy man... What caused the great depression of the 30's? Socialism or Capitalism? How about the current failure of the US and European Banking system with the "Troubled Assets"..Socialism or Capitalism?

Unless Capitalism is held in check with responsible socialism it is the MOST destructive force in the World!!!

Responsible socialism Gracie? How's that working out in Great Britain? France? Greece?

It is not as it is not here. The protective social shield has broken down due to IRRESPONSIBLE socialism. If there had been better rules and regulations preventing the insane banking and investment practices that allowed shuffling bad debt into good debt and further exasperated by shoddy rating the current crisis could have been avoided alltogether. BUT to blame the social structure for not capturing the criminals before they committed thier crimes is only a logic a NeoGOPer could conjer up. If people keep electing morons and thieves to represent them they have no right to whine about the results.

If one would attempt to follow the logic of those that blame the system and not the perpetrators of the scam as if it would be better to have NO regulation then obviously we should fire all police because there is crime.

The REAL problem is obviously someone is electing criminals to represent them. Who came up with the changes in the banking laws and regulations that alowed burying AND STILL allow burying troubled assets in amongst good debt? If any of you had even a shred of honesty in your purpose and your protest you would be isolating who did this in it's inception and who looked the other way as this putred scam was implemented. But that is not your purpose is it? You political hacks are not interested in who actually did this to us and the world because the trail might very well lead back to those YOU installed as Trojan Horses in what could just as easily be an honest social protection against such activity. If you evil fucks had your way the fire departments would not put out house fires unless the home owners previously paid a ransom...OPPS!! THAT is happening in America RIGHT NOW!!

Firefighters watch house burn for non-payment of fire protection fee. - FlyerTalk Forums

Have I told you how much I detest you EVIL NeoGOP fucks?

 

[rightwinger]

America is Socialist. Always has been ..always will be

It is socialism that allows all American children to receive an education regardless of their ability to pay

It is socialism that provides police and fire protection to all Americans...not just the wealthy

It is socialism that provides public roads and highways that are free to all Americans

It is socialism that ensures Americans will be taken care of when they reach old age, become sick or injured

America is a modern country and the richest country on earth. We can afford to provide basic services to our people. Why would you want to return to third world status?

From your rather generous and flawed definition of "socialism", it is apparent that you have had a "fine" public school education

As a matter of fact, I did

Our school system provides every child an opportunity to receive an education through high school. Many outstanding Americans never would have achieved greatness without our "socialist" education system

Can you imagine a system where the poorest kid in town gets to sit in class next to the child of the richest man in town? Your capitalist system would never allow that

 

[MikeK]

They were indeed called the National Socialist Workers Party for a reason[/B], do you want me to pull up their manifesto? [...]

Yes.

Pull up everything the Nazis said they were. Then pull up the evidence of what they really stood for, compare the two objects, then get back to us.

 

[MikeK]

Tally up ALL those killed by the far-left Socialist regimes of Hitler, every regime in the U.S.S.R., Mao, various past Socialist regimes of Latin America. not to mention every war they started. WW2, Vietnam, etc. And you get Satan's own personal masturbatory aid collage.

Count the large number of times Socialism has fallen, been disproven, fell to Capitalism.

Compare of superpower status, usual economic prosperity, and freedom in Capitalist nations of the U.S. and western Europe, to well, anywhere else in the world, including a small, insignificant village in China somewhere.

There is no comparison. This is the main reason why the left must be defeated, and shunned, here, everywhere. It's/they are inherently anti-liberty, freedom, prosperity, individualism, etc.

The most perfect functional example of socialism in the modern world is Denmark, which is held to be the happiest country in the world -- meaning the Danes are the happiest people in the world. And aside from any other consideration happiness is the primary objective of life.

So Denmark stands as irrefutable proof that your thesis is as wrong as two left feet.

Denmark: The Happiest Place on Earth - ABC News

 

[Neotrotsky]

America is Socialist. Always has been ..always will be

It is socialism that allows all American children to receive an education regardless of their ability to pay

It is socialism that provides police and fire protection to all Americans...not just the wealthy

It is socialism that provides public roads and highways that are free to all Americans

It is socialism that ensures Americans will be taken care of when they reach old age, become sick or injured

America is a modern country and the richest country on earth. We can afford to provide basic services to our people. Why would you want to return to third world status?

From your rather generous and flawed definition of "socialism", it is apparent that you have had a "fine" public school education

As a matter of fact, I did

Our school system provides every child an opportunity to receive an education through high school. Many outstanding Americans never would have achieved greatness without our "socialist" education system

Can you imagine a system where the poorest kid in town gets to sit in class next to the child of the richest man in town? Your capitalist system would never allow that

You mean like Papa Obama's kids.... oh nevermind


By the way, you still have no idea of how socialism is defined
(Which might explain a lot)



Too funny


You assume a direct correlation between public education and success- bad assumption

If so then Papa Obama would have sent his kids to DC public schools like Carter did

"Your capitalist system" interesting choice of words

Sure, a system that treated education as a public good and gave out vouchers

Would be free market; a better use of resources and give people more choice- you believe in choice, do you not?

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

Nazis were Christian conservatives bent on carrying out Martin Luther's doctrine. They had that blessing of Pope Pius.

They were only "Socialist" in name.

I just spent the last page proving why that's not true.

I call BS, you're either just insanely stupid, or a troll.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

Tally up ALL those killed by the far-left Socialist regimes of Hitler, every regime in the U.S.S.R., Mao, various past Socialist regimes of Latin America. not to mention every war they started. WW2, Vietnam, etc. And you get Satan's own personal masturbatory aid collage.

Count the large number of times Socialism has fallen, been disproven, fell to Capitalism.

Compare of superpower status, usual economic prosperity, and freedom in Capitalist nations of the U.S. and western Europe, to well, anywhere else in the world, including a small, insignificant village in China somewhere.

There is no comparison. This is the main reason why the left must be defeated, and shunned, here, everywhere. It's/they are inherently anti-liberty, freedom, prosperity, individualism, etc.

200+ posts in such a short time and you're just posting easily dismissable douchebag rants?

Here's a hint for you: every time you drink water from the tap, any time you choose to walk on the sidewalk or drive down a paved street, any time you call 9-1-1, and any time you send your kids to a public school... you're using a taxpayer-funded resources that many people are not paying for, since they do not have a significant income, and yet society as a whole would be far worse without.

This is wealth redistribution if people are not paying proportionately to what they use.

And that, here in the america you so love, is socialist.

And your 8-hour work week is a byproduct of socialist activism.

America uses mostly capitalist ideals while mixing in some socialist ones. I spoke of purely socialist/communist dictatorships, regimes, etc.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

Socialism-the BIGGEST plight/failure to this world, EVER.


I've got a riddle for ya batshitcrazy man... What caused the great depression of the 30's? Socialism or Capitalism? How about the current failure of the US and European Banking system with the "Troubled Assets"..Socialism or Capitalism?

Unless Capitalism is held in check with responsible socialism it is the MOST destructive force in the World!!!

Responsible socialism Gracie? How's that working out in Great Britain? France? Greece?

It is not as it is not here. The protective social shield has broken down due to IRRESPONSIBLE socialism. If there had been better rules and regulations preventing the insane banking and investment practices that allowed shuffling bad debt into good debt and further exasperated by shoddy rating the current crisis could have been avoided alltogether. BUT to blame the social structure for not capturing the criminals before they committed thier crimes is only a logic a NeoGOPer could conjer up. If people keep electing morons and thieves to represent them they have no right to whine about the results.

If one would attempt to follow the logic of those that blame the system and not the perpetrators of the scam as if it would be better to have NO regulation then obviously we should fire all police because there is crime.

The REAL problem is obviously someone is electing criminals to represent them. Who came up with the changes in the banking laws and regulations that alowed burying AND STILL allow burying troubled assets in amongst good debt? If any of you had even a shred of honesty in your purpose and your protest you would be isolating who did this in it's inception and who looked the other way as this putred scam was implemented. But that is not your purpose is it? You political hacks are not interested in who actually did this to us and the world because the trail might very well lead back to those YOU installed as Trojan Horses in what could just as easily be an honest social protection against such activity. If you evil fucks had your way the fire departments would not put out house fires unless the home owners previously paid a ransom...OPPS!! THAT is happening in America RIGHT NOW!!

Firefighters watch house burn for non-payment of fire protection fee. - FlyerTalk Forums

Have I told you how much I detest you EVIL NeoGOP fucks?

Are you done making up your lil excuses now?

The point of my O.P. was to prove that socialism and all its forms, regimes, and the related has killed more people than anything else, EVER, which it has.

If you wanna submit all your rights/$ to a burgeoning, increasingly authoritarian, centralized government, go head, the rest of us with common sense are gonna fight to stop it.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

They were indeed called the National Socialist Workers Party for a reason[/B], do you want me to pull up their manifesto? [...]

Yes.

Pull up everything the Nazis said they were. Then pull up the evidence of what they really stood for, compare the two objects, then get back to us.

Already did, you can't refute it because you know it's true, and it's indeed what Hitler implemented.

You're a joke.