Socialism: Friend or foe?

[Votto]

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude

Alexis de Tocqueville

Is this correct?

 

[g5000]

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude

Alexis de Tocqueville

Is this correct?

Alexis de Tocqueville was a Frenchman, and he made that speech in 1848, just half a century after the French Revolution in which proto-communists overthrew the monarchy and went on a bloody Reign of Terror.

Today's pseudocons actually remind me of the Jacobin Club. I've said this many times on this forum. Except, instead of constantly purging themselves of lesser extreme voices and becoming more fanatically communistic, the pseudocons are becoming more fascistic.

My favorite political science book of all time is Tocqueville's Democracy in America. It should be required reading in all schools.

If you like Tocqueville's thoughts on socialism, you will love The Road To Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek. I use to quote from it on this forum a lot a few years back.

 

[Votto]

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude

Alexis de Tocqueville

Is this correct?

Alexis de Tocqueville was a Frenchman, and he made that speech in 1848, just half a century after the French Revolution in which proto-communists overthrew the monarchy and went on a bloody Reign of Terror.

Today's pseudocons actually remind me of the Jacobin Club. I've said this many times on this forum. Except, instead of constantly purging themselves of lesser extreme voices and becoming more fanatically communistic, the pseudocons are becoming more fascistic.

My favorite political science book of all time is Tocqueville's Democracy in America. It should be required reading in all schools.

If you like Tocqueville's thoughts on socialism, you will love The Road To Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek. I use to quote from it on this forum a lot a few years back.

Required reading for state run schools?

Maybe when donkeys fly.

LMAO!

Most millennials have been indoctrinated by public education and the media to embrace socialism.

Majority of millennials want to live in socialist, fascist or communist nation: Poll

The majority of millennials would prefer to live in a socialist, communist or fascist nation rather than a capitalistic one, according to a new poll.

That is the trajectory.

 

[g5000]

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude

Alexis de Tocqueville

Is this correct?

Alexis de Tocqueville was a Frenchman, and he made that speech in 1848, just half a century after the French Revolution in which proto-communists overthrew the monarchy and went on a bloody Reign of Terror.

Today's pseudocons actually remind me of the Jacobin Club. I've said this many times on this forum. Except, instead of constantly purging themselves of lesser extreme voices and becoming more fanatically communistic, the pseudocons are becoming more fascistic.

My favorite political science book of all time is Tocqueville's Democracy in America. It should be required reading in all schools.

If you like Tocqueville's thoughts on socialism, you will love The Road To Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek. I use to quote from it on this forum a lot a few years back.

Required reading for state run schools?

Maybe when donkeys fly.

LMAO!

I quote from Democracy in America quite a bit on this forum.

I used to have a username of Alexis de Tocqueville on another forum years ago. All of my posts were direct quotes from Tocqueville. It is amazing how often his work applies to modern politics.

 

[Mac1958]

Always need to ask: Are we talking about Venezuelan socialism or Germany socialism?

The word means anything, or nothing, at this point.

 

[sparky]

The problem with labels is, folks will attach some extreemist example to them to demonize it all.

~S~

 

[Votto]

The problem with labels is, folks will attach some extreemist example to them to demonize it all.

~S~

You mean like capitalist?

 

[francoHFW]

Forget what Marks & Engles and de tocqueville and everyone else said about socialism before World War II. Everyone outside the GOP Cold War bubble of BS Defines socialism as simply Fair capitalism with a good safety net and perhaps nationalization of healthcare and energy...
"We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed... Every successful modern country is socialist. Except perhaps the giveaway to the rich GOP United States.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

"We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well and live, Forty-One."

 

[sparky]

The problem with labels is, folks will attach some extreemist example to them to demonize it all.

~S~

You mean like capitalist?

Well yes, one could analogize to capitalism Votto

That said, we are a socialist society , by degree

But so much is subjective, not objective that would define that

~S~

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Always need to ask: Are we talking about Venezuelan socialism or Germany socialism?

The word means anything, or nothing, at this point.

Which is what democrats want. The dumbest thing ever was allowing Nazi Germany to be labeled anything other than socialism. It was.

 

[Mac1958]

Always need to ask: Are we talking about Venezuelan socialism or Germany socialism? The word means anything, or nothing, at this point.

Which is what democrats want. The dumbest thing ever was allowing Nazi Germany to be labeled anything other than socialism. It was.

I'm talking about the Euro-socialism of today.
.

 

[Timmy]

I started a socialism thread and it got moved .

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Is socialism evil when it helps hurricane victims?

 

[danielpalos]

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude

Alexis de Tocqueville

Is this correct?

it may depend on whether or not, the Honor is to Serve.

 

[Tehon]

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude

Alexis de Tocqueville

Is this correct?

Now all we need to do is get us some democracy so we could all be equal.

 

[Timmy]

Should we defund “socialist” programs like FEMA?

 

[Votto]

I started a socialism thread and it got moved .

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Is socialism evil when it helps hurricane victims?

Was Al Capone evil even though he ran soup kitchens?

Was Hitler evil even though he gave German citizens free everything?

 

[Timmy]

I started a socialism thread and it got moved .

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Is socialism evil when it helps hurricane victims?

Was Al Capone evil even though he ran soup kitchens?

Was Hitler evil even though he gave German citizens free everything?

How about you answer the question .

 

[Timmy]

I started a socialism thread and it got moved .

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Is socialism evil when it helps hurricane victims?

Was Al Capone evil even though he ran soup kitchens?

Was Hitler evil even though he gave German citizens free everything?

I’ll answer yours

1. What does AL’s soup kitchens have to do wh socialist programs .

2. Hitler was a dictator. And giving Germans stuff doesn’t compare to all that bad shit he did .

 

[Votto]

I started a socialism thread and it got moved .

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Is socialism evil when it helps hurricane victims?

Was Al Capone evil even though he ran soup kitchens?

Was Hitler evil even though he gave German citizens free everything?

How about you answer the question .

I think I've made my point.

The issue is not whether or not you help "those in need"

The issue is doing it to give yourself legitimacy vs. giving from your heart.

If the former, odds are you are corrupt beyond measure.

So how corrupt does one have to become before they become "evil"?

What say you?