So you want better paying jobs?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Now my example is a little exaggerated, we'd never apply a 50% tariff on something... but the point is making imports more expensive so that American companies can compete again. When we change this dynamic, jobs will begin to generate as a result.. more jobs = more demand for labor = higher wages.

Interesting, socialism doesn't work, Marx is evil, only the free market can provide etc....

But you're promoting tariffs, which is interfering with the holy free market, as the solution.

Seriously?

tariffs are necessary to even the playing field.

dear a tariff is a tax on consumers that makes them poorer. How does that level the playing field?? Also a tariff protects or cripples and industry and then a country!! Also, a tariff starts a trade war and then a depression.

Do you have the IQ to understand??

 

[danielpalos]

Bad management accounts for every scenario you can come up with.

the perfect idiot liberal would have us believe that Hitler Stalin and Mao were merely bad managers when they killed 200 million, not that the liberal system in which they managed was faulty!!

Its seems simple but he really is too stupid to understand it.

yes, dear. it was simple bad management. Do you not believe the Nazi regime would have been better off on the eastern front; with another army group at their disposal?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Bad management accounts for every scenario you can come up with.

the perfect idiot liberal would have us believe that Hitler Stalin and Mao were merely bad managers when they killed 200 million, not that the liberal system in which they managed was faulty!!

Its seems simple but he really is too stupid to understand it.

yes, dear. it was simple bad management. Do you not believe the Nazi regime would have been better off on the eastern front; with another army group at their disposal?

yes too bad with!!! With good management the Nazis could have won!!!- right?? and then gone on with more good management to manage the world good!!!!

 

[danielpalos]

Bad management accounts for every scenario you can come up with.

the perfect idiot liberal would have us believe that Hitler Stalin and Mao were merely bad managers when they killed 200 million, not that the liberal system in which they managed was faulty!!

Its seems simple but he really is too stupid to understand it.

yes, dear. it was simple bad management. Do you not believe the Nazi regime would have been better off on the eastern front; with another army group at their disposal?

yes too bad with!!! With good management the Nazis could have won!!!- right?? and then gone on with more good management to manage the world good!!!!

Wasn't that the Plan; but for that Bad management?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Bad management accounts for every scenario you can come up with.

the perfect idiot liberal would have us believe that Hitler Stalin and Mao were merely bad managers when they killed 200 million, not that the liberal system in which they managed was faulty!!

Its seems simple but he really is too stupid to understand it.

yes, dear. it was simple bad management. Do you not believe the Nazi regime would have been better off on the eastern front; with another army group at their disposal?

yes too bad with!!! With good management the Nazis could have won!!!- right?? and then gone on with more good management to manage the world good!!!!

Wasn't that the Plan; but for that Bad management?

True enough with good management the nazi could have ruled the world. Does the idiot liberal have any idea what his point is?

 

[danielpalos]

Good management doesn't blame the "contractual obligations" they have to work with.

 

[Correll]

Calling points you cannot refute "diversions" does not make it so, no matter how often you do so.

SO, since you refuse to address any of my points, what do you mean by "exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth"


Because honestly, it sounds like complete gibberish.

Oh, keep it concise and use normal accepted meanings for words. I don't want to waste time playing guessing games on what you mean and then have you complain that I am putting words in your mouth for supposedly guessing wrong.

If you believe in your idea, don't try to hide your meaning with odd jargon and poor sentence structure.

Our Founding Fathers exercised Good management, regardless of form of Government. It really is that simple, except to the clueless and the Causeless.

And, is it wrong to believe that by simply exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth?

If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.--The Federalist Number Fifty-One

Different systems have differences. It is completely reasonable to compare them and their historical achievements to judge them.

To deny that differences exist and that it is all simply a matter of "Management" is not only extremely dishonest, but dishonest in a manner that would only fool the most credulous of fools.

And I still have no idea what you are talking about with

"exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth".


Please try again.

Bad management accounts for every scenario you can come up with.

Whatever. I give up getting you to honestly or seriously address that point, or any point.

What I want to know is what you mean by

"exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth".


I have no idea what that means. You say it a lot. It seems to be important to you.

I have repeatedly asked you to explain it.

I will do so again.

Please explain what you mean by that.

Thank you for ceding that point and argument.

Here is the context for what i mean:

If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.--The Federalist Number Fifty-One

It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

 

[Correll]

Bad management accounts for every scenario you can come up with.

the perfect idiot liberal would have us believe that Hitler Stalin and Mao were merely bad managers when they killed 200 million, not that the liberal system in which they managed was faulty!!

Its seems simple but he really is too stupid to understand it.

yes, dear. it was simple bad management. Do you not believe the Nazi regime would have been better off on the eastern front; with another army group at their disposal?

yes too bad with!!! With good management the Nazis could have won!!!- right?? and then gone on with more good management to manage the world good!!!!

Wasn't that the Plan; but for that Bad management?

True enough with good management the nazi could have ruled the world. Does the idiot liberal have any idea what his point is?

I think he is trying to say that all the Bad Stuff was the result of Bad Management.

Because that is the only way he can argue that next time, Communism can work and we don't have to worry about all that Genocide, Mass Murder and Oppression, because THIS batch of Communists are Good People and Good Managers.

 

[danielpalos]

Our Founding Fathers exercised Good management, regardless of form of Government. It really is that simple, except to the clueless and the Causeless.

And, is it wrong to believe that by simply exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth?

Different systems have differences. It is completely reasonable to compare them and their historical achievements to judge them.

To deny that differences exist and that it is all simply a matter of "Management" is not only extremely dishonest, but dishonest in a manner that would only fool the most credulous of fools.

And I still have no idea what you are talking about with

"exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth".


Please try again.

Bad management accounts for every scenario you can come up with.

Whatever. I give up getting you to honestly or seriously address that point, or any point.

What I want to know is what you mean by

"exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth".


I have no idea what that means. You say it a lot. It seems to be important to you.

I have repeatedly asked you to explain it.

I will do so again.

Please explain what you mean by that.

Thank you for ceding that point and argument.

Here is the context for what i mean:

If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.--The Federalist Number Fifty-One

It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

It merely requires a clue and a Cause.

 

[danielpalos]

the perfect idiot liberal would have us believe that Hitler Stalin and Mao were merely bad managers when they killed 200 million, not that the liberal system in which they managed was faulty!!

Its seems simple but he really is too stupid to understand it.

yes, dear. it was simple bad management. Do you not believe the Nazi regime would have been better off on the eastern front; with another army group at their disposal?

yes too bad with!!! With good management the Nazis could have won!!!- right?? and then gone on with more good management to manage the world good!!!!

Wasn't that the Plan; but for that Bad management?

True enough with good management the nazi could have ruled the world. Does the idiot liberal have any idea what his point is?

I think he is trying to say that all the Bad Stuff was the result of Bad Management.

Because that is the only way he can argue that next time, Communism can work and we don't have to worry about all that Genocide, Mass Murder and Oppression, because THIS batch of Communists are Good People and Good Managers.

Dude, Bad management can explain all of your scenarios. Good management could can do a Good job.

 

[Correll]

Different systems have differences. It is completely reasonable to compare them and their historical achievements to judge them.

To deny that differences exist and that it is all simply a matter of "Management" is not only extremely dishonest, but dishonest in a manner that would only fool the most credulous of fools.

And I still have no idea what you are talking about with

"exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth".


Please try again.

Bad management accounts for every scenario you can come up with.

Whatever. I give up getting you to honestly or seriously address that point, or any point.

What I want to know is what you mean by

"exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth".


I have no idea what that means. You say it a lot. It seems to be important to you.

I have repeatedly asked you to explain it.

I will do so again.

Please explain what you mean by that.

Thank you for ceding that point and argument.

Here is the context for what i mean:

If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.--The Federalist Number Fifty-One

It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

It merely requires a clue and a Cause.

That was not an answer.


It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

 

[Correll]

yes, dear. it was simple bad management. Do you not believe the Nazi regime would have been better off on the eastern front; with another army group at their disposal?

yes too bad with!!! With good management the Nazis could have won!!!- right?? and then gone on with more good management to manage the world good!!!!

Wasn't that the Plan; but for that Bad management?

True enough with good management the nazi could have ruled the world. Does the idiot liberal have any idea what his point is?

I think he is trying to say that all the Bad Stuff was the result of Bad Management.

Because that is the only way he can argue that next time, Communism can work and we don't have to worry about all that Genocide, Mass Murder and Oppression, because THIS batch of Communists are Good People and Good Managers.

Dude, Bad management can explain all of your scenarios. Good management could can do a Good job.

Nope.

Different systems have differences.

A good manager of a bad system is limited by the system.

Gorbachev tried to give some freedom to the People and the system immediately collapsed into chaos.

 

[danielpalos]

Bad management accounts for every scenario you can come up with.

Whatever. I give up getting you to honestly or seriously address that point, or any point.

What I want to know is what you mean by

"exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth".


I have no idea what that means. You say it a lot. It seems to be important to you.

I have repeatedly asked you to explain it.

I will do so again.

Please explain what you mean by that.

Thank you for ceding that point and argument.

Here is the context for what i mean:

If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.--The Federalist Number Fifty-One

It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

It merely requires a clue and a Cause.

That was not an answer.


It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

If you don't understand the Federalist Papers; I cannot help you since I am not Master Yoda.

 

[danielpalos]

yes too bad with!!! With good management the Nazis could have won!!!- right?? and then gone on with more good management to manage the world good!!!!

Wasn't that the Plan; but for that Bad management?

True enough with good management the nazi could have ruled the world. Does the idiot liberal have any idea what his point is?

I think he is trying to say that all the Bad Stuff was the result of Bad Management.

Because that is the only way he can argue that next time, Communism can work and we don't have to worry about all that Genocide, Mass Murder and Oppression, because THIS batch of Communists are Good People and Good Managers.

Dude, Bad management can explain all of your scenarios. Good management could can do a Good job.

Nope.

Different systems have differences.

A good manager of a bad system is limited by the system.

Gorbachev tried to give some freedom to the People and the system immediately collapsed into chaos.

Dude, Only Bad managers blame their systems not the bad management that got those bad systems.

 

[Correll]

Whatever. I give up getting you to honestly or seriously address that point, or any point.

What I want to know is what you mean by

"exercising Good social morals for free, we can achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth".


I have no idea what that means. You say it a lot. It seems to be important to you.

I have repeatedly asked you to explain it.

I will do so again.

Please explain what you mean by that.

Thank you for ceding that point and argument.

Here is the context for what i mean:

If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.--The Federalist Number Fifty-One

It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

It merely requires a clue and a Cause.

That was not an answer.


It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

If you don't understand the Federalist Papers; I cannot help you since I am not Master Yoda.

You have avoided any honest answer about your meanings or your intent.

 

[Correll]

Wasn't that the Plan; but for that Bad management?

True enough with good management the nazi could have ruled the world. Does the idiot liberal have any idea what his point is?

I think he is trying to say that all the Bad Stuff was the result of Bad Management.

Because that is the only way he can argue that next time, Communism can work and we don't have to worry about all that Genocide, Mass Murder and Oppression, because THIS batch of Communists are Good People and Good Managers.

Dude, Bad management can explain all of your scenarios. Good management could can do a Good job.

Nope.

Different systems have differences.

A good manager of a bad system is limited by the system.

Gorbachev tried to give some freedom to the People and the system immediately collapsed into chaos.

Dude, Only Bad managers blame their systems not the bad management that got those bad systems.

Only madmen claim that Different systems do not have differences.

 

[danielpalos]

Thank you for ceding that point and argument.

Here is the context for what i mean:

If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.--The Federalist Number Fifty-One

It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

It merely requires a clue and a Cause.

That was not an answer.


It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

If you don't understand the Federalist Papers; I cannot help you since I am not Master Yoda.

You have avoided any honest answer about your meanings or your intent.

what part of my quote of the Federalist Papers Number Fifty-One was too difficult for you to understand, or look up the entire context that includes that quote?

 

[Correll]

It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

It merely requires a clue and a Cause.

That was not an answer.


It is dishonest of you to pretend that I ceded anything.

Your context does not help much.

Men are not angles nor are we governed by them.

THus, your constant implication that we should be able to behave like them is delusional.

As is any goal you wish to reach by that behavior.

And near as I can tell by your surreal and obtuse jargon, is the Ideal Communist State.

If my guess is wrong, then tell me what you are really on about and stop being so coy.

If my guess is right, then that explains why you are so coy.

Because you know that your position is indefeasible.

If you don't understand the Federalist Papers; I cannot help you since I am not Master Yoda.

You have avoided any honest answer about your meanings or your intent.

what part of my quote of the Federalist Papers Number Fifty-One was too difficult for you to understand, or look up the entire context that includes that quote?

MOre games.

Is my guess about you being a communist correct or not?

 

[danielpalos]

True enough with good management the nazi could have ruled the world. Does the idiot liberal have any idea what his point is?

I think he is trying to say that all the Bad Stuff was the result of Bad Management.

Because that is the only way he can argue that next time, Communism can work and we don't have to worry about all that Genocide, Mass Murder and Oppression, because THIS batch of Communists are Good People and Good Managers.

Dude, Bad management can explain all of your scenarios. Good management could can do a Good job.

Nope.

Different systems have differences.

A good manager of a bad system is limited by the system.

Gorbachev tried to give some freedom to the People and the system immediately collapsed into chaos.

Dude, Only Bad managers blame their systems not the bad management that got those bad systems.

Only madmen claim that Different systems do not have differences.

Only madder men claim that Good management and not Bad management is nugatory and of no significance, regardless of any given system.

 

[Correll]

I think he is trying to say that all the Bad Stuff was the result of Bad Management.

Because that is the only way he can argue that next time, Communism can work and we don't have to worry about all that Genocide, Mass Murder and Oppression, because THIS batch of Communists are Good People and Good Managers.

Dude, Bad management can explain all of your scenarios. Good management could can do a Good job.

Nope.

Different systems have differences.

A good manager of a bad system is limited by the system.

Gorbachev tried to give some freedom to the People and the system immediately collapsed into chaos.

Dude, Only Bad managers blame their systems not the bad management that got those bad systems.

Only madmen claim that Different systems do not have differences.

Only madder men claim that Good management and not Bad management is nugatory and of no significance, regardless of any given system.

I of course, never claimed that quality of management was nugatory.

You want to pretend that all differences in outcomes between difference systems is only a result of different management.

This requires the unstated corollary, the System itself is nugatory.

Which is madness.

THe reason you don't clearly state that corollary is because you know it is indefensible and so you try to hide your meaning with unclear jargon and bad sentence structure.