So Obama Is Outraged at VA Misconduct

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OBAMA WANTS VETS TO PAY FOR SERVICE RELATED INJURIES

CNN, March 12, 2009

Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance.

But he cares so very much for out military personnel, those who are and have served this country. How many of you Obama—supporters remember this? Read more @ » Obama Wants Vets to Pay For Service Related Injuries Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! And yes, thank Rush and one of his callers for pointing this out. :evil:
 
Remember when …

OBAMA WANTS VETS TO PAY FOR SERVICE RELATED INJURIES

CNN, March 12, 2009

Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance.

But he cares so very much for out military personnel, those who are and have served this country. How many of you Obama—supporters remember this? Read more @ » Obama Wants Vets to Pay For Service Related Injuries Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! And yes, thank Rush and one of his callers for pointing this out. :evil:

When you go to the VA, one of the first things they ask for is your Insurance Card.

If you are being treated for a non-service connected malady, they WILL bill your Insurance Company. Whether they get paid or not is up in the air. They'll bill Medicare for non-service connected treatments, too.

What the Lying Cocksucker in Chief was proposing was that ALL Treatments, Service Connected or not, be billed out to your Insurance Company.

So saying that the Liar in Chief was asking Veterans, themselves, personally, to pay for treatments is slightly disingenuous.

dimocraps are lying scum. I am not.

Republicans often make mistakes because we're human. I think I may have made one at some point in my life.

Maybe not. :dunno:

But this is not a well-understood part of the VA Program (billing, etc) and I can understand the confusion, but it is still not completely accurate.

It would have pissed Insurance Companies off to no end. It would have caused everybody's Insurance to go up.... Probably by a fair amount. But the Vets themselves paying for treatments?

That's not how I understood it
 
Shinseki losin' support...
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Support falters as Shinseki fights for his job
May 29, 2014 - WASHINGTON (AP) — Support for embattled Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki eroded quickly Thursday, especially among congressional Democrats facing tough re-election campaigns, even as Shinseki continued to fight for his job amid allegations of delayed medical care and misconduct at VA facilities nationwide.
Shinseki spoke privately with lawmakers and met with nearly two dozen veterans groups, assuring them that he takes the reports seriously and is moving swiftly to fix problems. On Friday, he is to address the National Coalition for Homeless Veterans, outlining his plans for corrections. A federal investigation of operations in the troubled Phoenix VA Health Care System found that about 1,700 veterans in need of care were "at risk of being lost or forgotten" after being kept off an official waiting list. While initially focused on Phoenix, the investigation described Wednesday by the VA Department's inspector general found broad and deep-seated problems in the sprawling health care system, which provides medical care to about 6.5 million veterans annually.

The interim report confirmed earlier allegations of excessive waiting times for care in Phoenix, with an average 115-day wait for a first appointment for those on the waiting list — nearly five times as long as the 24-day average the hospital had reported. House Speaker John Boehner and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said they were reserving judgment about Shinseki. But with the situation threatening to affect congressional elections in November, the chorus of lawmakers calling for his departure grew by the hour.

Democratic Sens. Mark Warner and Tim Kaine of Virginia, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Jeff Merkley of Oregon and New Mexico's Tom Udall and Martin Heinrich all urged Shinseki to step aside. Eleven Senate Democrats have called for Shinseki's resignation since Wednesday, when the VA inspector general report came out. All but Kaine and Heinrich are on the ballot this fall. White House press secretary Jay Carney declined to say whether President Barack Obama still has full confidence in Shinseki, who has led the VA since the start of the Obama administration. The president is waiting for a full investigation into the VA before deciding who should be held accountable, Carney said.

Rep. Steve Israel, the New York Democrat who chairs the party's campaign committee in the House, called for a criminal investigation of the department by the Justice Department and said of Shinseki, "If his resignation is what it takes to fix the problem, then yes, he should resign." And Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, said that while he respects Shinseki, a former four-star Army general who served in Vietnam, the IG's report "does really move us closer to that point where we have to question his leadership." Durbin told radio station WGLT in Normal, Illinois: "If this is what I think it is, it could mean we need new leadership."

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IG: 'Significant Delays in Access to Care' at Phoenix VA Hospital
May 28, 2014 - The investigation, initially focused on the Phoenix hospital, found systemic problems in the VA's sprawling nationwide system, which provides medical care to about 6.5 million veterans each year. The interim report confirmed allegations of excessive waiting time for care in Phoenix, with an average 115-day wait for a first appointment for those on the waiting list — 91 days longer than the 24-day average the hospital had reported.
"While our work is not complete, we have substantiated that significant delays in access to care negatively impacted the quality of care at this medical facility," Richard J. Griffin, the department's acting inspector general, wrote in the 35-page report. It found that "inappropriate scheduling practices are systemic throughout" the VA's 1,700 health facilities nationwide, including 150 hospitals and 820 clinics. Griffin said 42 centers are under investigation, up from 26.

Five Senate Democrats facing tough election campaigns — Colorado's Mark Udall, Montana's John Walsh, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Al Franken of Minnesota and Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire — called for Shinseki to leave. "We need new leadership who will demand accountability to fix these problems," Udall said in a statement. Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., chairman of the House Veterans Affairs Committee; Rep. Howard "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif., chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, and Arizona's two Republican senators, John McCain and Jeff Flake, also called for Shinseki to step down. Miller and McCain also said Attorney General Eric Holder should launch a criminal investigation into the VA. Miller said the report confirmed that "wait time schemes and data manipulation are systemic throughout VA and are putting veterans at risk in Phoenix and across the country."

President Barack Obama found the findings "extremely troubling," his spokesman, Jay Carney, said. "As the president said last week, the VA must not wait for current investigations of VA operations to conclude before taking steps to improve care. It should take immediate steps to reach out to veterans who are currently waiting to schedule appointments and make sure that they are getting better access to care now," Carney said in a statement. Shinseki called the IG's findings "reprehensible to me, to this department and to veterans." He said he was directing the Phoenix VA to immediately address each of the 1,700 veterans waiting for appointments.

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