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    "moderate" muslims gain the high moral ground over the fundamentalists when the Quran tells the believers that the moderates are hypocrites .

    Islam Question and Answer - Kufr and its various kinds
    Islam Question and Answer - The enmity of the kuffaar towards the believers is ongoing
    Islam Question and Answer - Judging by that which Allaah has revealed
    Islam Question and Answer - Guidelines on takfeer (ruling someone to be a kaafir)
    Islam Question and Answer - Clarification of the important rule: it is haraam to take kaafirs as close friends and protectors
    Islam Question and Answer - Whoever does not believe that the kaafirs are kaafirs is himself a kaafir

    I can give links all day and night 5 gigs worth.

    These links may give you enough knowledge to form a question worth asking.
    The scripture Quran hadith tafsir are all provided.

    Is it hate speech?
    Of course, Its Islam.

    So how do the "real" muslims , the cowards who wont kill ,snatch Islam from the teeth of the believers?

    The believers who will strap bomb belts on them, and march them out into the world while holding their wives and children at gun point?

    Is Islam worth trying to save and protect , when the true believers,the ones that follow the quran , are the worse type of criminal in history?

    How do you save Islam from itself?
     
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    Your question is like:

    What do we do about the Killer Bees?

    OR

    How should we treat a rabid animal?

    IF a cure could be found, THAT would certainly be the way to go;

    however, if no "cure" is available,

    the only thing you can do is to either destroy them, or allow them to destroy you.
     
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    Types of Mischief that the Hypocrites commit
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    Since the outward appearance of the hypocrite displays belief, he confuses the true believers. Hence, the deceitful behavior of the hypocrites is an act of mischief, because they deceive the believers by claiming what they do not believe in, and because they give support and loyalty to the disbelievers against the believers.


    If the hypocrite remains a disbeliever (rather than pretending to be Muslim), the evil that results from him would be less. Even better, if the hypocrite becomes sincere with Allah and makes the statements that he utters conform to his deeds, he will gain success. Allah said,


    ﴿وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ لاَ تُفْسِدُواْ فِى الأَرْضِ قَالُواْ إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ مُصْلِحُونَ ﴾


    (And when it is said to them: "Do not make mischief on the earth,'' they say: "We are only peacemakers.'') meaning, "We seek to be friends with both parties, the believers and the disbelievers, and to have peace with both parties.'' Similarly, Muhammad bin Ishaq reported that Ibn `Abbas said,


    ﴿وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ لاَ تُفْسِدُواْ فِى الأَرْضِ قَالُواْ إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ مُصْلِحُونَ ﴾


    (And when it is said to them: "Do not make mischief on the earth,'' they say: "We are only peacemakers.'') means, "We seek to make amends between the believers and the People of the Book. '' Allah said,


    ﴿أَلا إِنَّهُمْ هُمُ الْمُفْسِدُونَ وَلَـكِن لاَّ يَشْعُرُونَ ﴾


    (Verily, they are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not.). This Ayah means that the hypocrites' behavior, and their claim that it is for peace, is itself mischief, although in their ignorance, they do not see it to be mischief.


    ﴿وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ ءَامِنُواْ كَمَآ ءَامَنَ النَّاسُ قَالُواْ أَنُؤْمِنُ كَمَآ آمَنَ السُّفَهَآءُ أَلاَ إِنَّهُمْ هُمُ السُّفَهَآءُ وَلَـكِن لاَّ يَعْلَمُونَ ﴾


    (13. And when it is said to them: Believe as the people believe,'' They say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed'' Verily, they are the fools, but they do not know.)


    Allah said that if the hypocrites are told,


    ﴿ءَامِنُواْ كَمَآ ءَامَنَ النَّاسُ﴾


    ("Believe as the people believe,''), meaning, `Believe just as the believers believe in Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, Resurrection after death, Paradise and Hellfire, etc. And obey Allah and His Messenger by heeding the commandments and avoiding the prohibitions.' Yet the hypocrites answer by saying,


    ﴿قَالُواْ أَنُؤْمِنُ كَمَآ آمَنَ السُّفَهَآءُ﴾


    ("Shall we believe as the fools have believed'') they meant (may Allah curse the hypocrites) the Companions of the Messenger of Allah . This is the same Tafsir given by Abu Al-`Aliyah and As-Suddi in his Tafsir, with a chain of narration to Ibn `Abbas, Ibn Mas`ud and other Companions. This is also the Tafsir of Ar-Rabi` bin Anas and `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam. The hypocrites said, "Us and them having the same status, following the same path, while they are fools!'' `The fool' is the ignorant, simple-minded person who has little knowledge in areas of benefit and harm. This is why, according to the majority of the scholars, Allah used the term foolish to include children, when He said,


    ﴿وَلاَ تُؤْتُواْ السُّفَهَآءَ أَمْوَلَكُمُ الَّتِى جَعَلَ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ قِيَـماً﴾


    (And do not give your property, which Allah has made a means of support for you, to the foolish) (4:5).


    Allah answered the hypocrites in all of these instances. For instance, Allah said here,


    ﴿أَلاَ إِنَّهُمْ هُمُ السُّفَهَآءُ﴾


    (Verily, they are the fools). Allah thus affirmed that the hypocrites are indeed the fools, yet,


    ﴿وَلَـكِن لاَّ يَعْلَمُونَ﴾


    (But they know not). Since they are so thoroughly ignorant, the hypocrites are unaware of their degree of deviation and ignorance, and such situation is more dangerous, a severer case of blindness, and further from the truth than one who is aware.


    ﴿وَإِذَا لَقُواْ الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ قَالُوا ءَامَنَّا وَإِذَا خَلَوْاْ إِلَى شَيَـطِينِهِمْ قَالُواْ إِنَّا مَعَكُمْ إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ مُسْتَهْزِءُونَ - اللَّهُ يَسْتَهْزِىءُ بِهِمْ وَيَمُدُّهُمْ فِي طُغْيَـنِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ ﴾


    (14. And when they meet those who believe, they say: "We believe,'' but when they are alone with their Shayatin (devils), they say: "Truly, we are with you; verily, we were but mocking.'') (15. Allah mocks at them and leaves them increasing in their deviation to wander blindly.)

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