So, How Come You're Still A Leftie?

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    How can any thoughtful citizen continue to support the liberal-progressive agenda?
    What aspects of a failed philosophy do you not understand?

    1. Shouldn’t we expect to see the cities that have had long-term Democrat governance as being utopias?
    “Why is it that every Democratic run city has the highest crime rates??
    For example, Detroit, whose mayor has been indicted on felony charges, hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961. Buffalo has been even more stubborn. It started putting a Democrat in office back in 1954, and it hasn't stopped since.

    Unfortunately, those two cities may be alone at the top of the poverty rate list, but they're not alone in their love for Democrats. Cincinnati, Ohio (third on the poverty rate list), hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1984. Cleveland, Ohio (fourth on the list), has been led by a Democrat since 1989. St. Louis, Missouri (sixth), hasn't had a Republican since 1949, Milwaukee, Wisconsin (eighth), since 1908, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (ninth), since 1952 and Newark, New Jersey (10th), since 1907.
    Democrat run Cites lead the highest crime and murder rates

    2. How about Democrat candidates running as Democrats, instead of pretending that they are conservatives? Why do they do that?

    a. How bad is it for Democrats? They’re running against their own programs. ObamaCare, cap-n-tax, you name it, they’re against it now. This situation reached absurdity when five Democrat members of Congress ran ads claiming to have voted “no” on TARP. The five are Frank Kratovil (MD), Dina Titus (NV), Mary Jo Kilroy (OH), Kathy Dahlkemper (PA) and Glenn Nye (VA). The inconvenient truth is, according to FactCheck.org, “None of the five lawmakers who are running these ads is listed in the roll call vote. That’s because none of them had taken office yet.” Democrats Run From Their Record: epic fail obama Conservative Libertarian Outpost

    b. If Democrats running against the White House prevail, the result could have a profound impact on the party's ability to govern. More than 30 Democrats with proven records of independence are campaigning on this theme, and scores more have started trying to do so late in the game. Even if the party maintains control of the House, it almost certainly won't have a functioning liberal majority, Democratic aides and lawmakers say. Tom Faranda's Folly: WSJ: Conservative Democrat Congressmen doing well in election run-up


    c. …party officials in Washington can’t identify a single House member who’s running an ad boasting of a “yes” vote — despite the fact that 219 House Democrats voted in favor of final passage in March.
    Read more: Democrats run away from health care - Jennifer Haberkorn - POLITICO.com

    d. "The common wisdom holds that 'both parties' have to appeal to the extremes during the primary and then move to the center for the general election. To the contrary, both parties run for office as conservatives. Once they have fooled the voters and are safely in office, Republicans sometimes double-cross the voters. Democrats always do."
    Coulter, 11-27-03


    My answer…folks who want to be assured that there will be somebody (or something, i.e. government) that promises to take care of them support left-wing policies.

    a. Liberal linguist Professor George Lakoff highlights this explanation, in his book “Don't Think of an Elephant!,” when he speaks of progressives framing policy in a ‘nurturing and cooperative” manner, as opposed to those mean conservatives who rely on a more competitive, ‘strict father’ rendition.

    b. And even when said policies are exposed as failures, i.e., the Obama economic policies, our left-wing friends continue to argue in their favor. The answer is right here:

    “The general idea is that it’s absolutely threatening to admit you’re wrong,” says political scientist Brendan Nyhan, the lead researcher on the Michigan study. The phenomenon — known as “backfire” — is “a natural defense mechanism to avoid that cognitive dissonance.”
    How facts backfire - The Boston Globe


    So, I understand you predicament, lefties... (but remember to pull the right lever in the privacy of the election booth.)
     
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    I am liberal due to the facts.

    You dont posses them
     
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    People on the Left are eternal optimists.

    They are blind to present day reality.

    Because they have a vision of a future utopia that over rides everything.
     
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    Kind of bland for you, Ms. Truthie...

    care to comment on either the depredation that Democrat rule has brought to the cities...or why Democrats hide their true intentions when running for office?

    You know, truth matters.
     
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    There was a mental illness that needed a name so the doctor's began to call it "liberalism". Seems like it's an epidemic.
     
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    Why am I still a leftie?

    1. Both of my Parents were married.

    2. My Father served in World War II and Korea.

    3. I graduated High School.

    4. I serverd Six (06) Years in the United States Army (1971 - 1977).

    5. I do not need to take off my socks when I count up to twenty.

    6. I can and do think for myself.

    7. Rush Limbaugh has a drug conviction. He had to piss in a cup during probation. He lies on a daily basis.

    8. George Bush was deserter. As a vet, I tend to dislike deserters. Only thing I hate more is a Draft Dodger, like Dick Cheney.

    9. I don't believe in kicking people in head, arresting reporters, outting C.I.A. Agents, or lies about W.M.D.

    10. You quote Mann Coulter....a brainless twit with false boobs and no brains.

    11. Bill O'Reily is a bgot. Has engaged sexual harassement of women.

    12. Beck thinks god talks to him, yeah right.

    13. I don't cherry pick parts of the Constitution to support and disgard the rest.

    14. The Moon IS NOT MADE OF GREEN CHEESE...sorry I know you were taught different.

    15. Given the choice of supporting two immoral and UN-CONSTITUTIONAL Wars or spending money to build highways, schools, and hospitals...we don't need the wars.

    16. Voting for Sarah Palin is like voting the mayor of the city that was the Meth Capital of the U..S....oh yeah that WAS PALIN.

    17. I do not want, need, desire, request or require any person, at any time to tell how much their version of their god loves me. Their god is in the last cubicle on the left in Sub Basment 1-A.

    I do not believe in the hate of the right. I do not believe in the violence of the right.
     
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    And if she has to get them from you, she never will possess them, obviously.
     
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    I'm more an Independent. Conservative on some issue, liberal on others.

    But I've been voting "D" the last few election cycles because I felt like Bush/DeLay/Frist drove me from the party. Borrow and Spend "R"s are a bigger danger to us than Tax and Spend "D"s.

    If the GOP gives me a credible candidate in 2012, I'll probably vote for them.
     
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    First and foremost, with great appreciation for your service to our country.

    Wow, I really must have hit a nerve, in that you after you calmed down and wiped the spittle off your chin, you neglected to comment on the OP points: how to explain the abject failure of Democrat administrations in our major cities...and why Democrats hide (if I were liberal I would have said 'lie') about their agendas when they run for office...

    But, bravo, your rant enforced all of the vile and hostile ad hominem attacks that the left is famous for (forgive my ending a sentence with a preposition). And that is exactly why I love the kind of ...what passes for rebuttal from the left!

    So, we can dispense with numbers 5 through 14, all of which are easily disproved, or are attempts at personal attacks.

    And 1 through 4, while interesting, are irrelevant with respect to the OP.

    #15 shows you to be less than informed, since both parties voted for same.

    #16, how many mayors would you like me to name from you side that preside over murder and mayhem, and give lovely quotes such as 'the bitch set me up"? So, another empty parry by you...

    #17 is really an interesting one, as liberalism is a religion that I can't avoid hearing about, as well.

    So, let's see how good a job you did...zero out of seventeen...
    So sorry, better luck in the future.


    Ya' know what? Because I feel sorry for you, as a less than well informed liberal, limited to the less enviable traits of libs, let me help you out with a kind of outline for future posts:

    Broadly, a "liberal' subscribes to some or all of the following: progressive income taxation; universal health care of some kind; opposition to the war in Iraq, and a certain queasiness about the war on terror; an instinctive preference for international diplomacy; the right to gay marriage; a woman's right to an abortion; environmentalism in some Kyoto Protocol-friendly form; and a rejection of the McCain-Palin ticket.
    The 25 Most Influential Liberals In The U.S. Media - Forbes.com

    See, wouldn't that have been a better answer?
     
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