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Value = Selective disbursement - care vs return on investment a/k/a rationing
TAPPER: One of the concerns about health care and how you pay for it one third of the funding comes from cuts to Medicare.
BARACK OBAMA: Right.
TAPPER: A lot of times, as you know, what happens in Congress is somebody will do something bold and then Congress, close to election season, will undo it.
OBAMA: Right.
TAPPER: You saw that with the doc fix.
OBAMA: Right.
TAPPER: Are you willing to pledge that whatever cuts in Medicare are being made to fund health insurance, one third of it, that you will veto anything that tries to undo that?
OBAMA: Yes. I actually have said that it is important for us to make sure this thing is deficit neutral, without tricks. I said I wouldnt sign a bill that didnt meet that criteria.
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Video: Flashback: Obama Defends Cuts to Medicare to pay for ObamaCare
And here's what you need to know. First, I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits -- either now or in the future. (Applause.) I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period.
Anyone who is honest, and receives Medicare, knows that Obama did NOT cut benefits to Medicare recipients. I receive Medicare, and I know it. AARP also knows it, because they endorsed the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.
Obamas Medicare Reforms Expanded, Not Cut, Benefits For Seniors | TPMDC
or what you have said about receiving Medicare.. 
NOt one single benefit, not one, has been cut
You are a terrorist if you say otherwise
Anyone who is honest, and receives Medicare, knows that Obama did NOT cut benefits to Medicare recipients. I receive Medicare, and I know it. AARP also knows it, because they endorsed the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.
Obamas Medicare Reforms Expanded, Not Cut, Benefits For Seniors | TPMDC
Haaa these Romney Robots do not care what the AARP American Association of Retired Persons has endorsed..
Too funny "they endorsed the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare" The people who are retired on this plan can see right through the Lies of Rotten Robme and Ryan..
Like they were just born yesterday...not ..most of these retired folks have been through more political votes than probably all of these posters put together. They are not stupid.
NOt one single benefit, not one, has been cut
You are a terrorist if you say otherwise
In this process, one or more people known as “Change Agents” or “Facilitators” appear to be acting as organizers, “allowing” each person in the group to express their concerns about some program or policy under consideration. While this process is going on, people are urged to make lists or form into task forces. The Facilitator carefully notes which members of the group are leaders, which are “loud mouths” and which may be easily swayed to different viewpoints.
At a certain point, the previously friendly Change Agent begins to act as “devil’s advocate,” becoming an agitator. The process involves playing one part of the group against another, the “divide and conquer” technique. Anyone who is not clearly in accord with the Facilitator’s agenda is made to appear ridiculous, inarticulate, ignorant or dogmatic. The idea is to make these members of the group angry thus escalating tensions. The end object being to shut opposition voices out of the group.
The “targets” of such manipulation rarely, if ever, realize how they are being manipulated. If they do suspect, they generally have no idea how to defeat the process.
NOt one single benefit, not one, has been cut
You are a terrorist if you say otherwise
The Obama administration released a final list of waivers from the costly mandates of President Obamas health care lawa list including an overwhelming number of union members.
The waivers were necessary because the ACA mandates no annual or lifetime limits may be placed on coverage, so insurers cannot afford to offer those plans.
In all, 1,625 plans covering 3,914,356 individuals were exempted from these mandates through 2014.
It's pretty stupid when the Speaker of the House says stuff like this and even worse:Anyone who is honest, and receives Medicare, knows that Obama did NOT cut benefits to Medicare recipients. I receive Medicare, and I know it. AARP also knows it, because they endorsed the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.
Obamas Medicare Reforms Expanded, Not Cut, Benefits For Seniors | TPMDC
Haaa these Romney Robots do not care what the AARP American Association of Retired Persons has endorsed..
Too funny "they endorsed the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare" The people who are retired on this plan can see right through the Lies of Rotten Robme and Ryan..
Like they were just born yesterday...not ..most of these retired folks have been through more political votes than probably all of these posters put together. They are not stupid.
It's pretty stupid when the Speaker of the House says stuff like this and even worse:Anyone who is honest, and receives Medicare, knows that Obama did NOT cut benefits to Medicare recipients. I receive Medicare, and I know it. AARP also knows it, because they endorsed the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.
Obamas Medicare Reforms Expanded, Not Cut, Benefits For Seniors | TPMDC
Haaa these Romney Robots do not care what the AARP American Association of Retired Persons has endorsed..
Too funny "they endorsed the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare" The people who are retired on this plan can see right through the Lies of Rotten Robme and Ryan..
Like they were just born yesterday...not ..most of these retired folks have been through more political votes than probably all of these posters put together. They are not stupid.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To]Pelosi: we have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it - YouTube[/ame]
CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien debunked the pervasive right-wing media falsehood that President Obama "stole $700 billion" from Medicare.
Right-wing media have repeatedly claimed that the Medicare savings included in Obama's Affordable Care Act (ACA) "gutted" the Medicare program. However, on CNN's Starting Point, when Romney senior adviser John Sununu claimed that Obama "gutted Medicare by taking $717 billion out of it," O'Brien was quick to correct him.
O'Brien pointed out that Sununu's talking point has been debunked by the Congressional Budget Office, which found that the Medicare savings in the ACA are not cuts, but rather a reduction in the expected rate of growth of the program.
O'Brien also noted that independent fact-checkers have found that the Affordable Care Act does not cut Medicare benefits. These fact-checkers also determined that the claim that hundreds of billions of dollars have been cut from Medicare is outright false.
When Sununu continued to claim that Obama had gutted Medicare, O'Brien confronted him with even more facts, citing evidence that drug providers and hospitals agreed to the Medicare savings because their "theory is that what they're going to be able to do is make up by the number of people who come into the system. It doesn't reduce or cut the benefits.
More by Medody Johnson: CNN's O'Brien Corrects Right-Wing Media Medicare Falsehood | Blog | Media Matters for America
CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien debunked the pervasive right-wing media falsehood that President Obama "stole $700 billion" from Medicare.
Right-wing media have repeatedly claimed that the Medicare savings included in Obama's Affordable Care Act (ACA) "gutted" the Medicare program. However, on CNN's Starting Point, when Romney senior adviser John Sununu claimed that Obama "gutted Medicare by taking $717 billion out of it," O'Brien was quick to correct him.
O'Brien pointed out that Sununu's talking point has been debunked by the Congressional Budget Office, which found that the Medicare savings in the ACA are not cuts, but rather a reduction in the expected rate of growth of the program.
O'Brien also noted that independent fact-checkers have found that the Affordable Care Act does not cut Medicare benefits. These fact-checkers also determined that the claim that hundreds of billions of dollars have been cut from Medicare is outright false.
When Sununu continued to claim that Obama had gutted Medicare, O'Brien confronted him with even more facts, citing evidence that drug providers and hospitals agreed to the Medicare savings because their "theory is that what they're going to be able to do is make up by the number of people who come into the system. It doesn't reduce or cut the benefits.
More by Medody Johnson: CNN's O'Brien Corrects Right-Wing Media Medicare Falsehood | Blog | Media Matters for America
So, Obama magically caused future growth of the Medicare program to simply not happen... how, exactly, did he accomplish this feat?
CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien debunked the pervasive right-wing media falsehood that President Obama "stole $700 billion" from Medicare.
Right-wing media have repeatedly claimed that the Medicare savings included in Obama's Affordable Care Act (ACA) "gutted" the Medicare program. However, on CNN's Starting Point, when Romney senior adviser John Sununu claimed that Obama "gutted Medicare by taking $717 billion out of it," O'Brien was quick to correct him.
O'Brien pointed out that Sununu's talking point has been debunked by the Congressional Budget Office, which found that the Medicare savings in the ACA are not cuts, but rather a reduction in the expected rate of growth of the program.
O'Brien also noted that independent fact-checkers have found that the Affordable Care Act does not cut Medicare benefits. These fact-checkers also determined that the claim that hundreds of billions of dollars have been cut from Medicare is outright false.
When Sununu continued to claim that Obama had gutted Medicare, O'Brien confronted him with even more facts, citing evidence that drug providers and hospitals agreed to the Medicare savings because their "theory is that what they're going to be able to do is make up by the number of people who come into the system. It doesn't reduce or cut the benefits.
More by Medody Johnson: CNN's O'Brien Corrects Right-Wing Media Medicare Falsehood | Blog | Media Matters for America
So, Obama magically caused future growth of the Medicare program to simply not happen... how, exactly, did he accomplish this feat?
It's pretty stupid when the Speaker of the House says stuff like this and even worse:Anyone who is honest, and receives Medicare, knows that Obama did NOT cut benefits to Medicare recipients. I receive Medicare, and I know it. AARP also knows it, because they endorsed the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.
Obamas Medicare Reforms Expanded, Not Cut, Benefits For Seniors | TPMDC
Haaa these Romney Robots do not care what the AARP American Association of Retired Persons has endorsed..
Too funny "they endorsed the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare" The people who are retired on this plan can see right through the Lies of Rotten Robme and Ryan..
Like they were just born yesterday...not ..most of these retired folks have been through more political votes than probably all of these posters put together. They are not stupid.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To]Pelosi: we have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it - YouTube[/ame]
Shut up Shitting Bull, you have him in own own words admitting he did...
yes, totally ignore the truth that it does not because it completely screws the entire claim of the right. Stop being mean and pointing out Romney's lies, just quietly drink the republican kool aid and slowly go to sleep. It is good for you, trust me. All that thinking really hurts.
(smile) Obama is lying about how he cut Medicare, you don't believe him when he said he did?
NOt one single benefit, not one, has been cut
You are a terrorist if you say otherwise
Liar!! You are being led to slaughter and you don't even see the slaughter house because of the carrot dangling in front of you.
Obama has lied, over and over and over. Why?? Here it is, Saul Alinsky style "Divide and Conquer":
In this process, one or more people known as Change Agents or Facilitators appear to be acting as organizers, allowing each person in the group to express their concerns about some program or policy under consideration. While this process is going on, people are urged to make lists or form into task forces. The Facilitator carefully notes which members of the group are leaders, which are loud mouths and which may be easily swayed to different viewpoints.
At a certain point, the previously friendly Change Agent begins to act as devils advocate, becoming an agitator. The process involves playing one part of the group against another, the divide and conquer technique. Anyone who is not clearly in accord with the Facilitators agenda is made to appear ridiculous, inarticulate, ignorant or dogmatic. The idea is to make these members of the group angry thus escalating tensions. The end object being to shut opposition voices out of the group.
The targets of such manipulation rarely, if ever, realize how they are being manipulated. If they do suspect, they generally have no idea how to defeat the process.
How To Defeat the Sal Alinsky Method of Divide and Conquer - Asking the questions... Demanding the answers... - The Voice
