Six dead in Minnesota tuberculosis outbreak

[MindWars]

It is totally topical. Immigrants bringing diseases that have been eradicated from our country, whether they be legal or illegal.

Except that's not what happened.

No diseases were "brought" from somewhere else. We already have TB here.

Oh and look this coming from a BORDER PATROL AGENT

Border Control Agent: Diseases Coming in We Haven't Seen in Decades - Breitbart

 

[Moonglow]

What a stupid retort....You are aware that the republicans have supported refugee laws and immigration.....Just like Democrats..

That's because you can't pick up on the leftist retards and their attitudes your slightly in it yourself. So of course it will come off that way to you and any other leftard .......lol

Yeah and you not even alive when all this happened gives you a better focus on the assessment..

 

[Penelope]

Interesting, were these people not checked for TB upon entering the US?

Yes they were.
Multidrug-Resistant Tuberculosis in Hmong Refugees Resettling from Thailand into the United States, 2004--2005

I do agree, everyone needs to be screened even the merit immigrants that DT want to switch to.
Health care is so important and I just can't believe that DT and Pubs want to get rid of healthcare for those on the ACA and also expanded Medicaid.

 

[boedicca]

Interesting, were these people not checked for TB upon entering the US?

Yes they were.
Multidrug-Resistant Tuberculosis in Hmong Refugees Resettling from Thailand into the United States, 2004--2005

I do agree, everyone needs to be screened even the merit immigrants that DT want to switch to.
Health care is so important and I just can't believe that DT and Pubs want to get rid of healthcare for those on the ACA and also expanded Medicaid.

How about we do the following to keep infectious diseases from re-emerging and spreading:

- Control our borders
- Get rid of homeless encampments which breed disease
- Quarantine people with highly infectious diseases
- Require vaccination if one wishes to use public schools and services

In CA, we have a growing problem of diseases (cf., hepatitis in San Diego) due to vile, filthy, disgusting and dangerous homeless encampments. Thanks to the geniuses of the Democrat Controlled government, violent prisoners are being "early released". Many encampments are basically prisons run by the former prisoners, and so dangerous that nobody reports any problems. These are ticking time bombs of infection, and it's only a matter of time before the diseases spread throughout the local communities.

This is why I am working on my exit plan to get the frell out of CA. I think I have 3 - 5 years before things completely fall apart.

 

[badger2]

Legionella in New York City occurred the day before TB in the Hmong of Minnesota.

Linking arsenic to post #38 of this thread are these abstracts:

Arsenic-Induced Immunosuppression
Arsenic exposure impels CD4 commitment in thymus and suppress T cell cytokine secretion by increasing regulatory T cells. - PubMed - NCBI

Mycobacterium / Milwaukee / Hmong
Characterization of multi-drug resistant Mycobacterium tuberculosis from immigrants residing in the USA using Ion Torrent full-gene sequencing. - PubMed - NCBI

Hmong / Multidrug-Resistant Outbreak / Thailand
Multidrug-resistant tuberculosis outbreak among US-bound Hmong refugees, Thailand, 2005. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[badger2]

Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (1984) Non-Fatal Arsenic Poisoning in Three Hmong Patients
www.hmongstudiesjournal.org/tobacco-alcohol-and-drug-usage.html

2001 Arsenic / Use of Imported Folk Remedies and Medications in the Wisconsin Hmong
Use of imported folk remedies and medications in the Wisconsin Hmong community. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[Montrovant]

The fact of the matter is that people in 3rd world countries do not have very good healthcare and do not have clean drinking water and have all kinds of health/sanitation issues. If they are allowed to come here unchecked, then they will be reintroducing diseases which have been all but eradicated here in the US. That is just a fact.

Are third-world countries with poor healthcare, no clean drinking water, and all kinds of health and sanitation issues likely to be bringing multi-drug resistant strains of TB to the US? That seems counter-intuitive, as those nations would be unlikely to have a large amount of antibiotic use or over-use.

While your point about health issues of immigration and illegals may be true for the country as a whole, I don't see anything in the article to indicate it is related to this particular incident.

So? This is just an example of what CAN happen. While you sit here all comfy in America soaking in your luck and access to healthcare (even though most libs would claim you have no access to healthcare), other people in other countries don't have the same luxuries. They don't have vaccinations. They don't have access to clean drinking water or even food some of the time.

There are all different new strains of bacteria because they can mutate. That doesn't mean that it didn't come from someplace other than the US. Now, go ahead and argue with science.

National TB statistics United States 2016 & 2015
The preliminary TB statistics for the United States for 2016 show a total of 9,287 TB cases reported, compared with a total of 9,546 for 2,015. This is a very slight decline and a much higher rate of decline is needed if the goal of the elimination of TB in the United States is to be reached in the foreseeable future. This was a decrease in incidence from 3.0 per 100,000 to 2.0 per 100,000.

The incidence in 2016 ranged from 0.2 cases per 100,000 in Wyoming to 8.3 in Hawaii. Alaska, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, and Texas, as well as Washington DC, all reported incidences that exceeded the overall national incidence. Four states, California (2,130), Texas (1,333), New York (763) and Florida (602) accounted for 50.9% of all cases.1 Among the individuals for whom the information was available, 5.7% were HIV infected, 4.6% had been homeless at some point in the previous year, 1.8% resided in a long term care facility and 3.5% were confined to a correctional facility.

Country of birth
Among the 9,287 cases of TB reported in 2016, 2,935 (31.6%) occurred among U.S. born people, and 6,307 (66.2%) TB cases were among foreign born people. So foreign born people in the United States continue to be disproportionately affected. The top five countries of origin of foreign born people with TB were Mexico, the Philippines, India, Vietnam and China. These five countries accounted for 54.9% of all cases among foreign born people.

TB cases for U.S. born people and foreign born people 2015

In 2015 of those people born in the U.S. 36% were Black/African American, 31% were White, and 21% Hispanic/Latino. Of those people who were foreign born 48% were Asian, 32% Hispanic/Latino and 13% Black/African American.

Drug resistance
The most recent year for which information about drug resistance, that is drug susceptibility data, is available is 2015. In 2015 there were 88 cases of multidrug resistant TB. Among the 88 cases 72 occurred in people with no reported history of TB disease. This means that they were cases of transmitted or primary drug resistant TB. One case of extensively drug-resistant TB was reported.

National no. of TB cases by year
In 2015 the number of U.S. TB cases increased compared with the previous year. This was the first time since 1992 that this had happened.

TB statistics United States | National, state & drug resistant

I'm sorry, where did I "argue with science"?

Just because immigrants bring in diseases which are mostly eradicated in the US, does not mean that has anything to do with this particular case. It may, it may not, there is no information to really say one way or the other.

As far as the multi-drug resistant TB, the three countries where it is most prevalent, according to your links, are India, China, and Russia. Those are not exactly third world nations. However, apparently some such nations do have high instances of multi-drug resistant TB, such as Somalia. I don't know why that is, as again, it seems counter-intuitive, but I'm not arguing it is untrue.

The point is that you are turning this into a discussion about immigration, when it is unclear if immigration is an important consideration in this instance.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Dims would let anyone in who can get here if up to them.

 

[badger2]

#44's pink should be put on the street and at a dumpster for awhile to learn how capitalism manufactures the dispossessed and houseless just as it does Ford cars and toothpaste.

 

[badger2]

The only reason #47 is having a problem is that it is already known where the Mycobacterium strain came from that has infected Hmongs in Minnesoata, but that this info is not appearing in msm.

 

[Montrovant]

The only reason #47 is having a problem is that it is already known where the Mycobacterium strain came from that has infected Hmongs in Minnesoata, but that this info is not appearing in msm.

Are you saying the information is being intentionally kept silent, or that the media does not know?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

They are Hmong. Who cares what happens to them.

 

[badger2]

Authorities most certainly know what strain it is and where it came from, which info has not been given to the media.

They are Hmong. How many are ex-opium farmers with a poor immune system? Why should they be rewarded with Wisconsin or Minnesotan real estate? Drug-resistant tb does not care about the ethnicity of the host, it cares about the genome of the host.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Tuberculosis grosses me out.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There's nothing "factual" about your statement - particularly since it's entirely unrelated to the topic of the thread.

"The Sun is hot."

Wow, I just made a statement that has absolutely nothing to do with the OP and guess what?

IT IS STILL A FACT EINSTEIN!

lol, get some sleep Sparky.

 

[badger2]

Fatal legionellosis at Disneyland.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

What a stupid retort....You are aware that the republicans have supported refugee laws and immigration.....Just like Democrats..

I don't think she calls herself a "Republican." Neither do I.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Interesting, were these people not checked for TB upon entering the US?

We don't do that anymore. It'd be RAYSSSSSISSSS.

 

[Coyote]

Tuberculosis has always been in this country. The only reason it it has gained new attention is the emergence of drug resistant stains. Instead of blaming immigrants blame yourselves for the overuse and abuse of antibiotics that has led to this.

 

[badger2]

No, when ex-opium farmers such as Hmong ingest arsenic through their herbals, Mycobacterium can mutate. We've already shown one report that was scrubbed.